Saturday, July 21, 2012

ARCHDIOCESE OF BOSTON IN A COVER UP ? SSPX, SLAVES OF THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY SAY THERE ARE 'NO EXCEPTIONS'

On the Archdiocese of Boston website no one is willing to respond to two questions asked of them in the com box available for comments and questions.

The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX)  Communique has stated that there are no exceptions to the literal interpretation of the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and there is no comment from the Archdiocese of Boston which once placed sanctions on one of its priests for saying  there were no exceptions.

The SSPX like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Fr.Leonard Feeney's communities, are saying clearly that there are no exceptions to the dogma on outside the church there is no salvation.

There is no known case of a non Catholic being saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience, implicit desire, imperfect communion with the Church, seeds of the Word etc.

So the Archdiocese has been asked if they know anyone saved with the baptism of desire etc. They will not answer.

There silence seems a cover up of an injustice done to Fr.Leonard Feeney a priest of their Archdiocese.

If the baptism of desire is not visible how could Cardinal Richard Cushing , the Archbishop of Boston claim that it was an exception to the dogma ?-Lionel Andrades

That an error was made in the Fr.Leonard Feeney case it was known for a long time: Even the SSPX communique supports the priest from Boston


Cardinal Sean O'Malley's office will still not answer two questions.(1) For many years the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have been saying there is no baptism of desire.
 Whether implicit or 'explicit' the baptism of desire is irrelevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma since we do not know any case.

The Society of St.Pius X communique has united the traditionalists. The SSPX announcement has supported the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Center. The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have always been saying that there is no baptism of desire.

They mean there is no 'explicit' or implicit baptism of desire which contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Now the SSPX communique has reaffirmed their faith in the Catholic Church and the dogma and also clarified that there is no ‘… possibility to find the means leading to salvation’ outside the Church.There is no possibility of being saved with the baptism of desire. There is no possibility of being saved with a good conscience outside the visible Church. There is no possibility of being saved in invincible ignnorance in 2012 for all those who do not have Catholic Faith and the baptism of desire. There is no possibility of being saved in the present times  with the 'seeds of the Word'.

Why ? When the Church Fathers and the popes say there is a possibility of being saved in these conditions do they say there is no possibility?

There is no possibility of being saved in the present time, for all on earth presently with the baptism of desire.Since we do not know any such case. The ordinary means of salvation is Catholic Faith and the baptism of water. The dogma and the Bible says all must convert into the Church for salvation.

So there is no possibility of being saved in the present time, for all on earth presently with a good conscience since we do not know any such case and so cannot claim that any one in particular is going to Heaven with a good conscience.

Only God can know who has the baptism of desire or a good conscience and is saved.

So assuming that there can be people on earth in the present time, 2012 with the baptism of desire etc is wrong.

So when the Church Fathers and the popes mention those who can be saved in invincible ignorance etc  these are possibilities unknown to us and known only to God. So in principle we can accept that a person can be saved in this condition. In reality, defacto, when I meet a non Catholic, in the present times, in 2012  I do not and cannot know any such case.-Lionel Andrades


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1) Do we personally know the dead saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc ?
2) Since we do not know any of these cases, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?

If the Letter of the Holy Office made a mistake to assume that those saved with implicit desire etc are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus then an injustice was done to Fr.Leonard Feeney. This issue should be reviewed and a Press Statement issued.