Sunday, March 31, 2019
It's good to remember-that the Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) is allowed to ordain priests and open new seminaries , with the permission of the Left and the Vatican, since they reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
1.Since there are exceptions to EENS for them theologically there is no ecumenism of return for them. There is salvation outside the Church is their New Theology.
2.The past exclusive ecclesiology is redundant.Since there are exceptions to EENS for them.
3.Invincible ignorance, the Nicene Creed becomes, "I believe in three or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sins,they are visible and known cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. They are desire, blood and invincible ignorance." For me BOD, BOB and I.I refer to only invisible and unknown cases.So they are not exceptions to EENS.
4.With visible and known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I extra ecclesiam nulla salus is changed and also the Apostles Creed.It is " I believe in the Holy Spirit which teaches the Catholic Church that outside the Church there is salvation, there is known salvation".
5.With seen in the flesh cases of BOD etc all the Catechisms have a new meaning when they refer to BOD, BOB and I.I.
6.The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is obsolete.
7.The Syllabus of Errors is also obsolete.8.Traditional Mission is also meaningless since outside the Catholic Church there is salvation, there is known salvation for the SSPX.
9.The proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation is also obsolete since outside the Church there is known salvation.
10.With the New Theology which the SSPX uses to interpret magisterial documents new doctrines are created e.g new ecumenism, new ecclesiology etc. The SSPX is part of the problem. They support the errors of the liberals and ecclesiastical Masonry.
If they rejected the innovation and did not compromise they could help Rome come back to the Catholic Faith.
-Lionel Andrades
In three points
1.There are no exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in Vatican Council II.Also Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston made an objective mistake.
2.The New Theology was created based on there being exceptions to traditional EENS.We now avoid the error and are back to the Old Theology and the traditional exclusive ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.
We avoid the error by interpreting hypothetical cases as just being hypothetical. I call this Feeneyism. The mistake was to interpret hypothetical cases as being objective examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church. I call this Cushingism.We can interpret Vatican Council II and all magisterial documents with Cushingism or Feeneyism and the conclusion would be different.
3.For Rome to come back to the faith it needs to switch to Feeneyite philosophy ( invisible people are always invisible) and theology( outside the Church there is no salvation and there are no visible exceptions to EENS, for us humans).
-Lionel Andrades
MARCH 30, 2019
Understanding Lionel Andrades in five steps
Saturday, March 30, 2019
Understanding Lionel Andrades in five steps
1.The baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) refer to invisible people.They are not physically visible cases. They are not examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.They are not practical exceptions to the centuries-old interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
2.It is the same with Vatican Council II.There are only hypothetical cases in Vatican Council II.They are referenced in LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc.They are hypothetical and theoretical only.So they cannot be practical exceptions to EENS.
3.The New Theology was based upon a lie. BOD, BOB and I.I was assumed to refer to physically visible people. Known non Catholics saved outside the Church. This was how the New Theology was created.This same false theology was repeated at Vatican Council II.In spite of this bad theology Vatican Council II can be interpreted in harmony.We simply avoid the error in the interpretation. We must observe all the passages support extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).It is not for and against EENS.
4.When we interpret hypothetical cases as just being hypothetical which I call Feeneyism, we go back to the old traditional theology.The Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church become orthodox.Since the premise and inference has changed.There is no rupture with the Syllabus of Errors(EENS, ecumenism of return etc).
Without the irrationality there is no theological basis for the New Ecumenism, New Theology, New EcclesiologyNEW Evangelisation etc.
With Feeneyism there are only passages with support EENS. With Cushingism there are for and against EENS passages in Vatican Council II.
With Feeneyism there are only passages with support EENS. With Cushingism there are for and against EENS passages in Vatican Council II.
5.We undo the errors which they popes and cardinals overlooked.This is since Pope Pius XII.Mission theology and doctrine becomes traditional. It is the same as that of St.Ignatius of Loyola and St. Francis Xavier.All need to enter the Catholic Church as members to avoid Hell.(Ad G entes 7,Vatican Council II).
Common and heretical Cushingism( hypothetical cases are objective) is replaced by Feeneyism( hypothetical cases are just hypothetical) as a philosophy( so invisible people are invisible) and theology( outside the Church there is no salvation and there are no practical exceptions known to us humans).
Vatican Council II in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Outside the Catholic Church there is no Salvation), an ecumenism of return,the old exclusivist ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors.
Vatican Council II in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Outside the Catholic Church there is no Salvation), an ecumenism of return,the old exclusivist ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors.
-Lionel Andrades
Lay Catholics, with or without an academic degree from a pontifical university can interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, an ecumenism of return,the old exclusivist ecclesiology , the Syllabus of Errors and the Mission doctrine of St. Ignatius of Loyola and St.Francis Xavier.
Lay Catholics, with or without an academic degree from a pontifical university can interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Outside the Catholic Church there is no Salvation), an ecumenism of return,the old exclusivist ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors.It would be in harmony with the Mission doctrine of St. Ignatius of Loyola and St.Francis Xavier.Lay Catholics can accept the teachings of the pope only when he is in harmony with the traditional teachings of the Church. This is when he is harmony with Magisterial documents, inspired by the Holy Spirit, interpreted rationally.This would be the same also for converts to the Catholic Faith.Converts must study the Church Fathers, the medieval classics and re-interpret Vatican Council II without a false premise and inference.This would mean accepting the past popes and interpreting the present ones, in harmony with the past pontifffs.The Catholic Church is made up of the Church Triumphant and the Church Militant.Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow(Heb.13:8).
Like natural law,the laws of aerodynamics, bouyancy,thermodynamics and gravity,do not change,so also, the laws at the supernatural level of life; the objective reality of Heaven and Hell, also do not change.-Lionel Andrades
Friday, March 29, 2019
Why is it legal to slander the late Fr. Leonard Feeney and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Centers in the USA ? : there are no practical exceptions of BOD,BOB and I.I or LG 8, GS 22 etc to EENS
Why is it legal to slander the late Fr. Leonard Feeney and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Centers in the USA ?
Every one knows that there are no personally known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).This is common sense.We cannot meet or see someone in 2019 saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOD) or the baptism of blood(BOB), with or without the baptism of water.
So Vatican Council II does not mention any one saved outside the Church, for us human beings. There can be no literal case of BOD, BOB and I.I or LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in 2019. There were none in 1965 and 1949 too.
So to suggest that there are physically visible cases of non Catholics saved in I.I. is deception.
There can be no such people in our reality.
Yet Brother Casey Cole ofm, in his video Is there Salvation Outside the Church (7:29) 1 says Feeneyism is a condemned teaching in the Church and has posted a picture of Fr. Leonard Feeney.
Bishop Donald Sanborn has posted an Anti-Feeneyite Catechism. He assumes that the baptism of desire etc are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.In other words they are not invisible and hypothetical but personally known and physically visible, in the present times.
This is false information.
Similarly Bishop Peter Libasci, bishop of the Diocese of Manchester, USA and the two Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia, have made the same error. They have also informed Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, in the Diocese of Manchester,about their irrational reasoning and non traditional conclusion.For them there are objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS. They interpret hypothetical cases mentioned in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II as being exceptions to EENS. So they are not hypothetical for them.
Do they personally know of any particular person saved outside the Church, without faith and baptism (AG 7 ) and with BOD, BOB and I.I in the present times ? No.They cannot judge that any particular person outside the Church is saved.Since this would only be known to God.
The CDF, the Diocese of Manchester, Bishop Donald Sanborn and the Franciscans have been informed through these blog posts on EucharistandMission that they are irrational. Even worse, heretical.
The Diocese of Manchester chooses the political interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS to create a rupture with Tradition( Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return etc). They will not be honest and admit that there are no known cases of BOD,BOB and I.I.So obviously BOD, BOB and I.I etc cannot exceptions to EENS.
Instead they have officially informed the St. Benedict Center in the diocese that they are legally not Catholic.Since they will not say that invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I are visible exceptions to EENS.Brother Andre Marie will not claim that unknown people saved,as referenced, in LG 8, LG 16, UR 3 etc, are known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.
They want him to be dishonest and deceptive.
Instead they have officially informed the St. Benedict Center in the diocese that they are legally not Catholic.Since they will not say that invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I are visible exceptions to EENS.Brother Andre Marie will not claim that unknown people saved,as referenced, in LG 8, LG 16, UR 3 etc, are known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.
They want him to be dishonest and deceptive.
This is all unethical and deceptive.Is this not illegal ?
How can they slander a priest by using an irrationality ?
BOD, BOB and I.I are 'zero cases' in our reality said the apologist John Martignoni.
BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be exceptions to EENS said Archbishop Thomas E. Gullickson, Nuncio to Switzerland and Liechtenstein.This is common knowledge which was also confirmed by Fr. Stefano Visintin osb, Rector, University of St. Anselm, Rome.Priests in Rome have said that the baptism of desire never was an exception to Feeneyite EENS. There are no cases of the baptism of desire.
So a lie is being promoted and Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Centers are being slandered.
Why is this legal ?
If a pope or cardinal says invisible people are visible it still is irrational.
If a pope or cardinal says that most people can see non Catholics saved in Heaven outside the Church (with BOD, BOB and I.I or LG 8, GS 22 etc as mentioned in Vatican Council II) it still is false.
If a pope violates the Principle of Non Contradiction it still is a violation.
When the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith makes an objective error and confuses what is invisible as being visible it still is an objective error. It is not Magisterial since the Holy Spirit cannot make an objective error. It is simply human error.
To assume there are non Catholics saved in Heaven outside the Church who are also visible on earth to be practical exceptions to EENS suggests that these people are in two places at the same time.
So if a few popes have overlooked this error it still is an error.
Why is it legal for Bishop Donald Sanborn, founder and rector of the Most Holy Family Seminary, Florida to slander Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Centers ?
Why is it legal for the Franciscans in New York ?
Why is it legal for Bishop Peter Libasci ?
Are the Secretaries of the CDF legally allowed to violate the Principle of Non Contradiction and slander a priest ?
-Lionel Andrades
1
Cushingite Franciscan supports the innovation
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-franciscan-has-slandered-priest-fr.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/03/is-there-really-no-salvation-outside.html
2
http://mostholytrinityseminary.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Combined-Feeney-articles-red.pdf
We cannot have a Restoration based on Cushingite theology
Michael Matt in his latest video 1 does not mention Bishop Athanasius Schneider who is openly supporting Martin Luther's theology as is John Henry Weston editor of LifeSites News.They oppose Pope John Paul II's objection to a Christian Theology of Religious Pluralism and Salvation ( CDF, Dupuis, Notification 2001).
The editor at the Remant News, a Cushingite media, loosely uses the word traditionalists.There is a theological and doctrinal divide among them and he is on the wrong side.
For the Feeneyites invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) but for Michael Matt it is.This is no way to 'unite the clans'.
For the traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center, USA there are no personally known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance.For Michael Matt and the SSPX there are.Otherwise how else could there be exceptions to EENS since 1965 or earlier, for them?
So when he uses the word traditionalist he needs to specify to which group is he referring to- Cushingite or Feeneyite.
In the past Michael Matt would criticize Fr. Leonard Feeney.Now at the last conference which he organized the Feeneyite Michael Church was one of the speakers.Brother Andre Marie MICM was also there.
We cannot unite the clans with two different set of doctrines at the Latin Mass,created by the old and new theology.
We cannot have a restoration based on Cushingite theology.
It is Cushingite theology which makes all Magisterial documents a rupture with Tradition. It is the cause of the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition, which Pope Benedict mentions, but does not identify its cause.
It turns everything into heresy and he too uses it.
Traditionalism based on Cushingism is not the remedy.
Rome must come back to the Faith with Feeneyism.
Praised be Jesus in the Catholic Church outside of which all are going to Hell.
Cushingism produces a rat-trad.Feeneyism makes a rad trad a Catholic.
Only a Feeneyite is a Catholic. A Cushingite is a heretic.
-Lionel Andrades
1
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/4408-catholic-chaos-where-do-we-go-from-here
From the Editor's Desk, Michael J. Matt takes a hard look at new initiatives to shut down the Church in Poland, Spain and Ireland. He then examines Pope Francis's response and concludes that what is needed is what he calls "Practical Application of Traditional Catholicism." Michael argues that, even as a good man like Jordan Peterson is making great arguments against the evil secularist spirit of the age, it's nevertheless doomed to fail if said arguments are not rooted on the single most important even in human history--the Incarnation of Jesus Christ -- a historical figure who really lived, really died, and really rose from the dead to found the greatest civilization in human history. Michael announces a new chapter in Remnant TV's war on secularism and the establishment of a new world order.
It is Cushingite theology which makes all Magisterial documents a rupture with Tradition. It is the cause of the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition, which Pope Benedict mentions, but does not identify its cause.
It turns everything into heresy and he too uses it.
Traditionalism based on Cushingism is not the remedy.
Rome must come back to the Faith with Feeneyism.
Praised be Jesus in the Catholic Church outside of which all are going to Hell.
Cushingism produces a rat-trad.Feeneyism makes a rad trad a Catholic.
Only a Feeneyite is a Catholic. A Cushingite is a heretic.
-Lionel Andrades
1
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/4408-catholic-chaos-where-do-we-go-from-here
From the Editor's Desk, Michael J. Matt takes a hard look at new initiatives to shut down the Church in Poland, Spain and Ireland. He then examines Pope Francis's response and concludes that what is needed is what he calls "Practical Application of Traditional Catholicism." Michael argues that, even as a good man like Jordan Peterson is making great arguments against the evil secularist spirit of the age, it's nevertheless doomed to fail if said arguments are not rooted on the single most important even in human history--the Incarnation of Jesus Christ -- a historical figure who really lived, really died, and really rose from the dead to found the greatest civilization in human history. Michael announces a new chapter in Remnant TV's war on secularism and the establishment of a new world order.
Franciscan and sedevacantist communities could inform Bishop Peter Libasci that there are no exceptions to Feeneyite EENS mentioned in Vatican Council II.He supports a lie and slander
Like the Franciscan on the video Is there Salvation outside the Church,1 Bishop Donald Sanborn,founder and Rector of the Most Holy Family Seminary, Florida, USA, 2 sedevacantist, assumes being saved in invincible ignorance is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).So there is personally known salvation outside the Catholic Church for him. Then he criticizes Fr. Leonard Feeney.So this is the reasoning which he uses to slander the priest from Boston.
There is nothing in Lumen Gentium to contradict Feeneyite EENS.However in confusion,like the Franciscan Bro. Casey Cole OFM in the video,Bishop Sanborn uses a falsehood, to reject the strict interpretation of EENS.
The Franciscan uses this irrationality to reject Feeneyite EENS and accept an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.With the irrationality Bishop Sanborn also has to reject Vatican Council II, since it would be in conflict with an ecumenism of return, Syllabus of Errors etc.
Bishop Sanborn and Brother Cole do not accept Vatican Council II interpreted rationally and in harmony with Feeneyite EENS, an ecumenism of return, the past exclusive ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors.
This is not fair to the late Fr.Leonard Feeney and the present day Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Centers, USA.
How can these religious slander Fr. Leonard Feeney?
They use an irrational premise ( invisible people are visible in the present times) and inference( these 'visible' non Catholics saved outside the Church are objective exceptions to EENS).They create a non traditional and heretical conclusion ( outside the Church there is salvation and all do not need to enter the Church).
Similarly Bishop Peter Libasci, the Bishop of Manchester, USA, interprets Vatican Council II and EENS falsely and then expects the St. Benedict Center in the diocese to do the same.
The Franciscan and sedevacantist communities could inform Bishop Peter Libasci that in Vatican Council II there are no exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.He supports a lie and slander.
-Lionel Andrades
1
March 28, 2019
2
http://mostholytrinityseminary.org/about/
From the Most Holy Trinity Seminary
Our Approach
Most Holy Trinity Seminary was
founded in order to provide priestly training for young men who
thoroughly reject Vatican II,(Cushingite) its reforms, and the Modernist hierarchy
which promulgates them.(He is referring to Vatican Council II Cushingite. He does not know about Vatican Council II Feeneyite) This position is in contrast to the seminaries
of traditionalist groups that operate with the approval of the Modernist
hierarchy, or who seek this approval.(They also only are aware of Vatican Council II Cushingite).
The Seminary trains priests
according to pre-Vatican II standards.(This was when all magisterial documents were interpreted with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism) Its rule, discipline, spiritual
formation, and academic curriculum imitate faithfully those which were
in effect in seminaries before the Second Vatican Council. By training
priests in this manner, the seminary hopes to contribute to the solution
to the problem of the nearly universal disintegration of Catholic
faith, morals, discipline, and liturgy which the Second Vatican Council
has caused.
The seminary sees that the only
solution to the problem of Vatican II, however, is to condemn it as a
false council which was dominated by heretics, and to discard and ignore
its decrees and enactments.(He does not comment upon Vatican Council II Feeneyite and how all magisterial documents can be interpreted with Feeneyism. The red is not an exception to the blue.) Consequently, the Seminary does not seek to
be recognized by the heretical hierarchy which promulgates Vatican II,
nor does it seek to work with the Novus Ordo clergy, as if in a single
church or religion.(But their interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS is still irrational, non traditional and heretical).
The Seminary therefore repudiates
the idea of the Motu Proprio Mass, or that of a fraternity of priests
which has received permission or seeks permission from the Novus Ordo
hierarchy to function in communion with the Modernist heretics.(They still offer Holy Mass with the New Theology, the New Ecclesiology while also claiming to support the old ecclesiology of the Catholic Church).
The Catholic Church, in the
outlook of the Seminary, will not be cured of its current problems until
the hierarchical sees, particularly the papacy, are once again occupied
by Catholics. For as long as Modernist heretics possess the mere
appearance of authority which they now possess, the problem of Vatican
II will continue. In the meantime the Seminary, as well as the priests
who emanate from it, shall abhor even the suggestion of an official
recognition from the Novus Ordo hierarchy, or of a compromise with the
Modernists, whom St. Pius X called the “most pernicious of all the
enemies of the Church,” who are striving “utterly to subvert the very
Kingdom of Christ.”(Cushingism creates modernism. This seminary is not free of it. This can clearly be seen in their interpretation of Vatican Council II).
Faculty
Our Seminary provides future priests with
a thorough intellectual training based on the Church’s Magisterium and
the Teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas.(They are a rupture with St. Thomas Aquinas on EENS. Aquinas affirmed Feeneyite EENS and invincible ignorance referred to hypothetical cases for him. Invincible ignorance is an exception to EENS for Bishop Sanborn. So it is not a theoretical and hypothetical case for him and the seminary faculty) In both philosophy and theology it
insists on adherence to classical Thomism.(In philosophy and theology they adhere to Cushingism.Cushingism is the basis for the New Theology and New Ecclesiology, which is modernism and heresy).
-Lionel Andrades
Thursday, March 28, 2019
The Franciscan has slandered the priest Fr. Leonard Feeney.He has used false reasoning.This is the common deception. He needs to admit that he has used an irrationality, a falsehood
Bro. Casey Cole ofm gets de railed at about four minutes on his video Is there Salvation Outside the Church.
He smugly refers to being saved in invincible ignorance.As if these people are known to us humans in general.
How would he know that them millions of non Catholics in ignorance of Jesus and the Church will be saved. It is his word against mine. While the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus says they will be damned.Vatican Council II has the same message (AG 7).
The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) says all need to believe in Jesus in the Catholic Church for salvation. All. So for me those millions of people, whom he refers to, are in Hell. I cannot personally judge but I am following the dogma EENS. This is what the Catholic Church was taught for centuries by the Holy Spirit.
This is a Cushingite Franciscan. At 4.31 on the video he says invincible ignorance is not a new concept.True. But he has interpreted invincible ignorance as referring to known non Catholics saved outside the Church. This is a new concept.In this way there are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
He has interpreted the popes and saints( when they refer to invincible ignorance) as referring to literal cases, known to be saved outside the Church.So the popes and saints become a rupture with traditional EENS, or Feeneyite EENS.
Only in this way does invincible ignorance become an exception to the old concept of outside the Church there is no salvation. 1
For Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits invisible people saved in invincible ignorance were exceptions to traditional EENS.This is Cushingite reasoning.It is Cushingite philosophy. Based upon this new reasoning a new theology had been created. It said outside the Church there is salvation.This I call Cushingism.Generally is it the New Theology whose precise source is not known to Catholics.
But for Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center invincible ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOD) and baptism of blood(BOB) were only hypothetical cases.There could not be a literal case, which was known. This was not a theory of Fr. Leonard Feeney but a fact of life. It is something independent of the St. Benedict Center.Invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire etc could not be practical exceptions to traditional EENS.This is how God made it.This is the traditional rational reasoning. It is the old theology on salvation. I call it Feeneyism.
So Cushingism says hypothetical cases ( I.I, BOD etc) are objective and practical examples of salvation outside the Church.So they become objective exceptions to the dogma EENS. Feeneyism says hypothetical cases are just hypothetical and theoretical and are not personally known in the present times.This is a simply tool to clarify what one means.Feeneyism and Cushingism exist independent of these names.
The Franciscan is a Cushingite.He creates a hermeneutic of rupture with EENS, Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return etc.He even interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.He uses the Cushingite theology to create new doctrine.He has re-interpreted all the Creeds and Catechism.It's a mess.Then he asks if the Church has changed its teaching and answers with a YES.
His error on the video begins with his interpretation of invincible ignorance.
Invincible ignorance can be accepted without postulating it as an exception or relevant to EENS.Those who are 'struggling with invincible ignorance' are known only to God.So for us they are not exceptions to EENS.We can accept hypothetical invincible ignorance.It does not have to be linked to EENS.In itself it was not a problem for centuries.This is how the Church Fathers knew it until the liberal theologians came with their deception.
Lumen Gentium mentions possibilities of salvation outside the Church which are always theoretical for us. So they should not be linked to the dogma EENS. Otherwise it would imply that they are not hypothetical but real people whom we know, who are saved outside the Church.This would be false and irrational.
There could be people of good will who are saved outside the Church,but only hypothetically (GS 22).They are not objective exceptions to the exclusive ecclesiology of the Church. This was the error made at Vatican Council II by Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits who were active there.This is Brother Casey Cole's reasoning too on this video.
The Franciscan says, " Unless one is visibly and officially associated with the Church there is no salvation ? No. That's not right either.That's called Feeneyism and it is a condemned position by the Magisterium."
He says all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church.Since for him invincible ignorance refers to known people saved outside the Church, he has to accomodate this error with this new theology. He cannot outright and directly say all need to be visible members of the Church for salvation.
Even if someone is saved in invincible ignorance all need to be visibly and officially associated with the Catholic Church for salvation.Invincible ignorance cases are unknown cases in our reality.
Even if someone with good will is saved outside the Church it is known only to God.So still all need to be visibly and officially associated with the Catholic Church.
Even if there are elements of sanctification and truth in other religions(LG 8), they known only to God and unknown to us on earth. So all need to be visible members of the Church.
Even if all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church,those who are saved with BOD, BOB and I.I, they would only be known to God.So all need to be members of the Catholic Church with faith and baptism for salvation.
So the Catholic Church has not changed its doctrine and 'changed its mind'.
How could Feeneyism be a condemned doctrine? If the popes and cardinals assume possibilities are objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS they have contradicted the Principle of Non Contradiction.They have made the mistake.
How can invisible people be visible exceptions to EENS? Elementary. Even if a pope or cardinal says this it is wrong. It does not make it right.
For Fr. Leonard Feeney there were no literal cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I. So BOD,BOB and I.I could not be an exception to EENS.There was no one around saved outside the Church.
But the Franciscan and the ecclesiastics imply there are literal cases of BOD, BOB and I.I even though they cannot see or meet people saved outside the Church.
So the Franciscan uses an irrationality ( invincible ignorance refers to personally known people) then he criticizes Fr. Leonard Feeney.He then criticizes and rejects the traditional teaching on no salvation outside the Church.He interprets Vatican Council II with the same irrationality.Then he assumes the Council is a rupture with the strict interpretation of EENS.
The Franciscan has slandered the priest Fr. Leonard Feeney.He has used false reasoning.This is the common deception.
He has not done justice to the St. Benedict Centers in the dioceses of Worcester, Manchester and Los Angeles.
He needs to admit that he has used an irrationality, a falsehood to condemn Fr. Leonard Feeney's traditional interpretation of no salvation outside the Church.Using a falsehood to create a new theology and then change doctrines is not Catholic.
-Lionel Andrades
1
MARCH 26, 2019
Cushingite Franciscan supports the innovation
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/03/is-there-really-no-salvation-outside.html
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MARCH 28, 2019
Brother Andre Marie MICM is being forced to accept heresy and then be accepted as a Catholic by the Vatican ,while John Henry Weston has accepted this heresy, in a compromise, and he is producing a video series on the heresies of Pope Francis
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-franciscan-has-slandered-priest-fr.html
https://www.beafranciscan.org/meet-our-student-friars/
https://www.beafranciscan.org/meet-our-student-friars/
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