Thursday, March 9, 2017

The dogma is absolutist and we do not know any one who is saved or going to be saved in another religion.

8:46.The Archbishop says that the Holy Spirit can be active in the lives of non Christians...
 Yes.But why mention this with reference to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The dogma is absolutist and we do not known any one who is saved or going to be saved in another religion.
It is only with the New Theology, Cushingism based on invisible and hypothetical cases being mixed up for being real that there can be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
If he used the traditional, rational theology, Feeneyism then there would be no contradiction and deception on this point.-Lionel Andrades

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Church Militant TV teaches bad theology and new doctrine in its PAUSE program.It presents a  religious formation to young men with the theology of Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.So they interpret all magisterial documents as do the liberals Archbishop Kevin McDonald and Tom O'Loughlin on this video Theologians in Conversation- Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

CMTV does not affirm the truth about the Catholic faith.There is a risk.They could lose their media apostolate?It is the same with the faculty at the Sacred Heart Seminary in the Archdiocese of Detroit. They choose the magisterium approved false premise.Then they conclude that Vatican Council II is a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and Tradition in general.There is an alternative. They will not mention it even though it is traditional.
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Many times on line over the years I have written about this.There is no denial.
The  young men on the CMTV Pause program, will have to interpret Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS with an irrationality. They must assume hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire are not hypothetical.Instead for them it  will refer to known people. People in the present times saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. In this way the baptism of desire becomes an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.This is Church approved new theology.It is also approved by the liberal, reformed rabbis.
This was the new reasoning in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney. CMTV quoted the Letter.They supported it on a Mic'd Up program hosted by Christine Niles on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The Letter and CMTV assumed there were objective cases of the baptism of desire etc.The dead man walking and visible theory.
In the PAUSE religious formation candidates this is the new formation.There are visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the youth agree with the formators .The emperor has clothes.
There was no comment from CMTV to my blog post titled English universities present a lie on Catholic theology and doctrine - unethical for academics.There was no comment since the same lie is being told by Michael Voris and CMTV.It is unethical but it will be taught in the PAUSE program.
I wrote :
The Universities of Nottingham and Bristol and Kings College London present a lie on Catholic theology and doctrine. For academics this is un-ethical.It is a falsehood even though the pro-Left Catholic bishops and cardinals in Britain support the lie.This is official deception.In the University of Nottingham video series Theologians in Conversation they use unethical and irrational Cushingism as a theology to interpret Vatican Council II.So the Council emerges as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Feeneyite).
The same could be said about CMTV.
It was  un-ethical for Tom Loughlin, Professor of Historical Theology at the University of Nottingham, England and the Emeritus Archbishop of Southwark, Kevin Mcdonald not to interpret Vatican Council II with the theology of Feeneyism which is an alternative. It is rational, traditional and does not use a false premise.The same is true for the  PAUSE program.They do not use Feeneyism as a theology.Instead they use the irrational premise and get a non traditional conclusion.
 The two English liberals on the video,  like Michael Voris and the Download team, are aware that if they did use Feeneyism as  a theology, then Vatican Council would be in harmony with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church.
Then there would be no theological basis for the new ecumenism, salvation outside the Church, the Anonymous Chritian, hope for the majority of people not going to Hell, the separation of Church and State, a new interpretation of the Nicene Creed etc.
Now the PAUSE program has the same liberal  theology as the University of Nottingham, which otherwise is a leftist organization, unlike CMTV.
For the English universities,including the one where Christine Niles received her theology and law degree,  Gaudium e Specs 22 would be an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
For all of them Gaudium et Specs 22 refers to someone personally known in the present times, who is saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
Only if someone existed as such there could be an exception. This is the theology of Cushingism.
There is no such person known on earth.
However with this irrational inference made on the video Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the old ecclesiology of the Church and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.1This is something normal for the University of Nottingham theologians and also Michael Voris.
The same error is made by the University of Bristol on a video shown on their website.Prof. Gavin D'Costa, a Catholic who studied under the dissenter-theologians Paul Knitter  and John Hicks, uses Cushingism.So for him there are  known cases of non Catholics saved with 'that ray of the Truth'(Nostra Aetate 2).This is how Michael Voris interprets Vatican Council II.This is Cushingism.The Council Fathers used Cushingism.So you have Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium having a Feeneyite(orthodox ) passage followed by a Cushingite ( Letter of the Holy Office 1949) passage.
We have to re-interpret the Cushingite passage with Feeneyism. We have to interpret the passage as being hypothetical.In this way we neutralize the error of the Council Fathers.The Cushingite passages should not have been there but for the error in the 1949 Letter which the popes overlooked.
If we do not see the Cushingite passage in Lumen Gentium 14 for example, then it would seem as if Vatican Council II is saying that every one does not need to enter the Church but only those who know.
Similarly if we are not careful then Lumen  Gentium 16 would be saying that not every one needs to enter the Church since there is salvation for those who follow their conscience.
For Cushingite 'those who know' and 'those who have a good conscience' are personally known, seen in the flesh, objective exceptions to the dogma EENS.
For Feeneyites they refer to hypothetical cases, theoretical possibilities, speculation with good will, acceptable in good faith, but not explicit exceptions to EENS. They are invisible cases in 2017.
This is the point missed out in the PAUSE religious formation.
They are given the irrational new theology, Cushingite theology. So theologically there is salvation outside the Church for Gavin D'Costa and Michael Voris.The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus has been discarded.It is no more absolutist.
Even after being informed Gavin D'Costa and Michael Voris repeat the Jewish Left narrative for the Catholic Church, on there being theological exceptions to the absolutist interpretation of EENS.They do not use Nostra Aetate 4 to say  Catholics are the new people of God, Catholics are the new Chosen People, they are a continuation of the Jewish religion.Michael Voris though does say this without the new theology. Give him credit here.
However neither does Gavin D'Costa, Tom O'Loughlin and the CMTV team say Ad Gentes 7 indicates all Jews and other non Catholics, Muslims included, are on the way to Hell unless they enter the Church as members,with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14).
The professors in England and the USA at Catholic and secular universities  do not want to be labelled Anti-Semitic by the ADL and the Jewish Left and the rest of the neo-fascists. So like the Catholic bishops and priests they are protecting their office and changing Catholic theology and doctrine.False theology and doctrine is also being taught on the CMTV PAUSE program.
I appreciate the CMTV programs and watch the Vortex but their theology is off on the salvation issue.
-Lionel Andrades

English universities present a lie on Catholic theology and doctrine - unethical for academics