Friday, February 12, 2021

The Catholic News Agency(CNA) did not report that the Vatican would impose the Decree of Prohibitions upon any religious community in the Diocese of Manchester, which interprets Vatican Council II without the false premise and so affirms the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). This would apply also for the Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans and Carmelities

 The Catholic News Agency(CNA) did not report that the Vatican would impose the Decree of Prohibitions upon any religious community in the Diocese of Manchester, which interprets Vatican Council II without the false premise and so affirms the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). This would apply also for the Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans and Carmelities. - Lionel Andrades


FEBRUARY 12, 2021



The Catholic New Agency(CNA) report calumniates the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, when CNA interprets extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with a false premise and expects the SBC to do the same. It's as if the SBC deserves to be punished with the Decree, for not being deceptive, like the diocese.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-catholic-new-agencycna-report.html


If the St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire, would ask Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj how can he say outside the Catholic Church there is salvation and there are non Catholics in Heaven, he would have to reply , "According to Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally, interpreted with a false premise, interpreted by confusing what is invisible and subjective as being visible and objective."

 If the St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire, would ask Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj how can he say outside the Catholic Church there is salvation and there are non Catholics in Heaven, he would have to reply , "According to Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally, interpreted with a false premise, interpreted by confusing what is invisible and subjective as being visible and objective." - Lionel Andrades

The Catholic New Agency(CNA) report calumniates the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, when CNA interprets extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with a false premise and expects the SBC to do the same. It's as if the SBC deserves to be punished with the Decree, for not being deceptive, like the diocese.

The Catholic New Agency(CNA) report calumniates the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, when CNA interprets extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with a false premise  and expects the SBC  to do the same. It's as if the SBC deserves to be punished with the Decree, for not being deceptive, like the diocese.

The CNA Reporter accepts the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)by the Judicial Vicar and Chancellor of the diocese of Manchester.He then  criticizes the SBC for not affirming this irrationality, to avoid the Decree of Prohibitions, approved by the Chancery offices.

The CNA, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), United States Conference of Catholic Bsihops(USCCB) and the Diocese of Manchester's intepretation of the Councill is now obsolete. They can no more create an artificial rupture with Tradition by using a false premise and then expect all the religious communities in New Hampshire, to follow.

The CNA Reporter was critical of the SBC as if the SBC  was obligated to interpret all Magisterial documents with a fake premise, to avoid the severe censures of the Decree.

Brother Andre Marie MICM was not contacted  and asked why he does not assume unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance could not be known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.Similarly he could have responded if asked, why invisible and theoretical cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II could not be  practical exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS.

Other religious communities in New Hamsphire are open to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and so are able to affirm the strict interpretatioin of EENS like the SBC.

Seven Questions need to be asked of the other religious communities and they will support the past ecclesiocentricism of the Catholic Church.

The Council when interpreted without the false premise supports exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andradedes


Catholic News Agency report with emphasis


Vatican upholds prohibitions placed on Feeneyite group by diocese in New Hampshire

.- The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has declined to consider an appeal by the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary located in New Hampshire against prohibitions placed on them by the Diocese of Manchester.

The group, located in Richmond, N.H., about 60 miles southwest of Manchester, has roots in an order originally founded by Fr. Leonard Feeney.

The Diocese of Manchester had placed the group under precepts of prohibition, effective Jan. 7, 2019, because of obstinacy in their theological position regarding the principle that there is no salvation outside the Church. They were prohibited from referring to themselves as an association of the faithful in the Church and having sacraments celebrated at their property, among other things.

The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart appealed the prohibitions to the CDF, but “Rome chose not to consider the appeal,” Fr. Georges de Laire, judicial vicar of the Diocese of Manchester, said, according to the New Hampshire Union Leader.

“The decision from CDF says that it was rejected because it fell outside the statute of limitations,” Fr. de Laire said.

He told the Union Leader that the diocese is “now engaged in an effort to dialogue” with the group and to encourage them to observe the prohibitions, and that the diocese has a “complicated relationship” with the Slaves.

Bishop Peter Libasci of Manchester “remains hopeful that a solution can be identified,” Fr. de Laire said. “The bishop is committed to the Slaves and their supporters, as they are members of the Church and he owes them ministry.”

That membership in the Church is necessary for all men for salvation is a truth of revelation; however, actual membership can, in special circumstances, be replaced by a desire, even implicit, for this membership.

The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in Richmond are not affiliated in any way with the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary located in Still River, Mass. That community, also rooted in an order first founded by Fr. Feeney, was refounded in 1976, and was regularized by the Bishop of Worcester in 2002.

In October 2016 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith wrote to Brother Andre Marie, leader of the group based in Richmond, that the position he retains - that articles from the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Dominus Iesus on the principle ‘outside the Church there is no salvation’ have been given different readings that are contrary to one another, and it is permissible to hold the position that these articles contradict previous Church teaching - is unacceptable.

On that basis, and that the Slaves had persisted in their obstinacy and that scandal had continued, the Manchester diocese placed the prohibitions on the group which were to take effect in January 2019. The decree of prohibitions bears the signatures of Fr. de Laire and of Diane Quinlan, the diocesan chancellor.

The decree stated that only the Anointing of the Sick for a person in danger of physical death by an approved priest would be allowed at the group’s property, and that no priest would validly hear Confession and impart Absolution at the property except for a penitent in imminent danger of physical death.

It added that documents signed by the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart in April and July 2009, after which the then-bishop had provided for a priest to say Mass at their property, were null and void.

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Lionel:  Hypothetically 

Brother Andre Marie does not reject invincible ignorance etc. However the CNA Report suggests that invincible ignorance etc are not just hypothetical cases but objective exceptions  to EENS. This is irrational and deceptive..-Lionel Andrades 

https://catholicism.org/doctrinal-belief.html   

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/brother-andre-marie-micm-cou




 FEBRUARY 6, 2021



Michael Voris' legal assistance could ask Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop of Manchester, and Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia, Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican, to clarify that Vatican Council II when interpreted rationally supports the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). The Council is in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed

 


Michael Voris' legal assistance could ask Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop of Manchester, and Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia, Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican, to clarify that Vatican Council II when interpreted rationally supports the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). The Council is in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed. 

Archbishop Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia made an objective mistake on Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (847-848) in their correspondence with Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior, St. Benedict Center, NH. The correspondence with the error is posted on the website of the Diocese of Manchester. -Lionel Andrades

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A possibility of being saved outside the Catholic Church, is not a real person saved without faith and the baptism of water. So it is not an objective exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, a interpreted by the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire

 A possibility of being saved outside the Catholic Church, is not a real person saved without faith and the baptism of water. So it is not an objective exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), a interpreted by the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire.

When the Catechism of the Catholic Church states God is not limited to Sacraments, this is a hypothetical possibility and does not contradict the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 1257) when it also states that the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water.

When Lumen Gentium 14 refers to those who know about Jesus and the Church and do not enter are damned, this is a possibility known only to God. We cannot point out any any real cases in 1965-2021. So this possibility does not contradict Lumen Gentium 14 when it states all need faith and baptism for salvation.

Similarly when Ad Gentes 7 mentions those who could be saved in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, this is a possibility known only to God. So it is not an objective exception to Ad Gentes 7 when it states all need faith and baptism for salvation.-Lionel Andrades

Fr.Georges de Laire, the Judicial Vicar, Diocese of Manchester and Simcha Fischer and her husband are not telling the media that Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise supports the traditional strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), and all the religious communities in New Hampshire ( Franciscans, Carmelities etc) can affirm it. It is not an error of the St. Benedict Center, NH

 Fr.Georges de Laire, the Judicial Vicar, Diocese of Manchester and Simcha Fischer and her husband are not telling the media that Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise supports the traditional strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), and all the religious communities in New Hampshire ( Franciscans, Carmelities etc) can affirm it. It is not an error of the St. Benedict Center, NH. -Lionel Andrades

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