Massimo Faggioli does not tell students that there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II and that the Council is in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors

 None of Massimo Faggioli’s students are being told by him that Vatican Council II is in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and that it supports the past exclusivist ecclesiology. He does not tell the students that there are two interpretations of VC 2 one is with the Rational Premise and the other is with the Irrational Premise and that for politically correct reasons, he chooses the irrational version, to produce a false hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition and that this is dishonest and not Catholic and that they should not do the same.-Lionel Andrades

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRYzoMcWQAEWcxo?format=jpg&name=900x900

WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

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An exception must exist in a particular place for it to be an exception : CDF has got it wrong

 

JUNE 9, 2020

An exception must exist in a particular place for it to be an exception : CDF has got it wrong

AN EXCEPTION MUST EXIST IN A  PARTICULAR PLACE FOR IT TO BE AN EXCEPTION

If there are a group of school boys standing at a bus stop and then a boy joins them who is very tall, then that tall boy is an exception among those boys who are short.

That tall boy is an exception primarily because he is there and not just because he is tall.

If he would stand at another bus stop on the same street but far away, he would not be an exception.

He would have the same height but would not be an exception among this group of boys.

So to be an exception it is not enough to be different, the person or thing must be present, among other persons or things,who or which are different.
If there is an orange in a box of apples that orange is an exception because it is different but also because it is there in that box.

For the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) and the liberals the baptism of desire(BOD) is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). But there are no known cases of the BOD on earth ? No practical cases.

For the CDF being saved in invincible ignorance is an exception to the Athansius Creed which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.But there are no known cases of non Catholics saved without faith and baptism and instead with invincible ignorance. So how can invincible ignorance be relevant to the Athanasius Creed or EENS, as an exception ? 

This is a false premise of the CDF.

With the false premise they make a false inference. They assume there is known salvation outside the Church  and so non Catholics do not need to necessarily, have to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.

With the same false premise and inference they interpret Vatican Council II and project it as a rupture with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).

This is deceptive.

-Lionel Andrades

NOVEMBER 30, 2019

Even when they know that there cannot be practical exceptions to EENS - they have to say that there are exceptions ( Graphics )

-Lionel Andrades

 NOVEMBER 28, 2019

For Cardinal Raymond Burke, Archbishop Giacomo Morandi, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Fr. John Zuhlsdorf, Roberto dei Mattei and numerous others there are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Visible? But where are they seen ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/for-cardinal-raymond-burke-archbishop.html

OCTOBER 31, 2019

There are no arguements to support exceptions to EENS. There cannot be any objective exception, whatever is the argument

OCTOBER 31, 2019

EWTN's Tragic Errors of Leonard Feeney by Fr. William Most present arguments which cannot be practical exceptions to EENS, they cannot violate Newton's Laws of Physics

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/ewtns-tragic-errors-of-leonard-feeney.html

 AUGUST 10, 2018

The moment you say that BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS you infer that they refer to known people, visible people saved outside the Catholic Church : invisible people cannot be exceptions (Grafics)

 

-Lionel Andrades

AUGUST 10, 2018

Chris Ferrara, Mons.Clifford Joseph Fenton, Fr. John Hardon, Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira, Michael Davis, Dietrich von Hildebrand, Attila Guimares, Fr. Nicholas Gruner, John Vennari and others did not know about it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/chris-ferrara-monsclifford-joseph.html

WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

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