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La scoperta di Lionel Andrades sul Concilio Vaticano II è semplice

 

La scoperta di Lionel Andrades sul Concilio Vaticano II è semplice



 È proprio questo: LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ecc si riferiscono sempre e solo a casi ipotetici. Sono sempre fisicamente invisibili nel periodo 1965-2023. Non possiamo incontrare nessuno salvato nell'ignoranza invincibile e nella buona coscienza (LG 16) o con il battesimo di desiderio (LG 14). Se qualcuno fosse stato salvato come tale, solo Dio lo avrebbe saputo. 

Ciò cambia l’interpretazione del Concilio Vaticano II. Cambia l'ecclesiologia. La Chiesa ritorna al passato. Siamo tornati al passato ecclesiocentrismo del Medioevo. Poiché i casi speculativi e teorici di LG 8, 14, 15 16 ecc., non possono essere esempi oggettivi di salvezza nei tempi attuali (2023). Non costituiscono eccezioni pratiche per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), il Credo di Atanasio, il Sillabo degli Errori e il Catechismo di Papa Pio X (24 Q, 27Q). 

Abbiamo quindi l'ermeneutica della continuità con la passata ecclesiologia esclusivista su cui si fondavano la fede, la morale e la missione tradizionali. 

Questa è un’interpretazione razionale ed etica del Concilio Vaticano II e l’unica opzione che hanno papi, cardinali e vescovi,ora. 

Quando Alberto Melloni della FSCIRE (Scuola di Bologna), i sacerdoti-professori delle Università Biblica, Gregoriana, Angelicum e Giovanni Lateranense interpretano razionalmente LG 8,14, 15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ecc., automaticamente affermare l'interpretazione rigorosa del dogma EENS. Questo indipendentemente dal fatto che vogliano o meno affermare la Feeneyite EENS. 

Il mio parroco p. Paulo Boumis, a la chiesa di San Agapito presso Largo Preneste, Roma, i sacerdoti Missionari della Carità di Madre Teresa, i vescovi ausiliari di Roma e i teologi dell'Ecclesia Mater, Vicariato di Roma, sono d'accordo con me. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ecc., sono sempre invisibili nel presente. Questa è una cosa ovvia, ha detto p. Aldo Rossi, già Priore della FSSPX, Distretto Albano, Italia. -Lionel Andrades                                       

OCTOBER 21, 2023

The Lionel Andrades Discovery on Vatican Council II is simple

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/the-lionel-andrades-discovery-on.html



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SEPTEMBER 9, 2023

The discovery

 




The discovery

We have a discovery today. It’s ‘a small point’ but this small point turns the Council around. From liberalism the Council returns to Tradition. So by ignoring this small point, we have liberalism in the Church. This small point, is the premise: the rational and irrational premise. It decides if Vatican Council II has a continuity or break with Tradition. This is the discovery. We now have a switch. We can turn it off or on. We can choose a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors or a rupture with Tradition.   -Lionel Andrades




Lionel Andrades

former Staff Reporter, daily Morning News, Karachi, Pakistan.

Recipient of the All Pakistan Newspaper Society (APNS) Best Reporter of the Year Award, presented by the Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto.

Recipient of the Pakistan Government's Award for Literature ( Childrens stories).

Teacher of English and Church History at the Catholic Minor Seminary, Rawalpindi.                                                                                          

 

                                                            Bishop Anthony Lobo

Sent to Rome for Ministerial Priesthood by Bishop Anthony Lobo, bishop of Rawalpindi-Islamabad, Pakistan.

He is discriminated against by the pontifical universities and seminaries in Rome.He interprets Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. So there is a continuity with Tradition. He is not allowed to study at pontifical universities in  Rome,  where it is obligatory to interpret Magisterial Documents, irrationally and unethically.Catholic students and seminarians are discriminated against. 

The seminarians of the Society of St. Pius X, Albano, are allowed to study at the pontifical universities in Rome since they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally and this is approved by the Left.

Propaganda Fide only gives schorlarship for all students/ seminarians who are approved by a bishop, who does not interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and expects seminarians to do the same.

However we have a new discovery in the Catholic Church. There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral, when it is interpreted rationally i.e LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical cases. So they are not objective examples of salvation. They are not objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.The Creeds must not be changed.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version of the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils, which is heretical, non-traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents and call it Catholic.

Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Murray, Balthazar, Kung, Lefebvre and Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally. The popes from Paul VI to Francis did the same. We can today choose to interpret the Council rationally and in harmony with Tradition.

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Residence temporary : Missionaries of Charity (Contemplative) Men of  Madre Teresa, Via di Sant’Agapito, 8, 00177 Roma RM ( near Largo Preneste and  Termini) Italy.

ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH      SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA



HEART OF THE MATTER

1.If Vatican Council II is a rupture with the dogma EENS then it means that LG 8,14,15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to visible examples of salvation outside the Church. So they are exceptions for EENS etc.

2. If Vatican Council II is not a break with the dogma EENS then it means that LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc refer to invisible cases. They are not visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 1965-2023. Invisible cases cannot be practical exceptions for me.So there is nothing in the text of Vatican Council II to contradict Feeneyite EENS.

A. Similarly if the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance refer to physically visible cases, of salvation outside the Church in 1949-2023, then this is Cushingism. It is irrational. There is a break with the dogma EENS and the ecumenism of return.The Catechism of Pope Pius X (24Q,27Q-outside the Church there is no salvation), has exceptions. There is a break with Tradition.

B. But if BOD, BOB and I.I refer to invisible cases, then they do not contradict EENS, the Athanasius Creed, the ecumenism of return and the Catechism of Pope Pius X(24Q,27Q).There is no rupture with Tradition.

  • When what is invisible is considered invisible, I call it Feeneyism.
  • When what is invisible is considered visible, I call it a Cushingism.

We can interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism or Cushingism.

We can interpret BOD, BOB and I.I with Feeneyism or Cushingism.

So we can interpret the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed with Feeneyism or Cushingism. When these Creeds refer to BOD, BOB and I.I they can be Feeneyite or Cushingite. For example, (Nicene Creed-I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin ( and not three known baptisms). 

The Apostles Creed  (the Holy Spirit guides the  Holy Catholic Church  to say outside the Church there is no salvation and not outside the Church there is known salvation.

All need Catholic faith for salvation (Athanasius Creed).This is Feeneyism. But if it is said all need Catholic faith for salvation with some known exceptions then this is Cushingism.

The only holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (Four Marks, Nicene Creed) in the past taught that outside the Church there is no salvation. What it teaches today depends upon you -if you are a Feeneyite or Cushingite.

In the same way there can two interpretations of Vatican Council II (LG 8,14,15,16 etc). It depends upon how you interpret LG 8 etc, with Feeneyism or Cushingism.

-Lionel Andrades