Sunday, February 14, 2021

Massimo Faggioli needs to clarify that Vatican Council II does not contradict Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc) for him any more

 Massimo Faggioli needs to clarify for all that the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases only in 1965-2021.

Similarly he needs to clarify that for him LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are also only hypothetical and  speculative cases in the present times. So there are no objective exceptions , mentioned in Vatican Council II, to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Jesuits in the Middle Ages. There are no objective exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church to the Syllabus of Errors. 

So for him the Ccuncil does not contradict Tradition any more.

It does not contradict Feeneyite EENS of the St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire. It does not contradict EENS according to Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston whose excommunication was lifted by that great exponent of Vatican Council II, Pope Paul VI.The Jesuit priest only had to recite the Athanasius Creed, which says outside the Church there is no salvation.-Lionel Andrades



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Massimo Faggioli knows that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with or without the false premise and the conclusion will be non traditional or traditional, in a rupture or in harmony, with extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Magisterium of the 16th century. So he now chooses to interpret Vatican Council II rationally. He is a full Professor of Theology and Religious Studies at Villanova University, USA and needs to inform them and the organisations he is associated with, of his new understanding of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/massimo-faggioli-knows-that-vatican.html

Domincans at St.Mary Majors Rome cannot make a rational and traditional Profession of Faith

 We go for Confession to the Dominicans at the Basilica of St. Mary Majors, Rome. Yet they  cannot make a Profession of Faith with the Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II, Catechisms and EENS interpreted rationally.They also  reject the Athanasius Creed  by using a false premise.? Canonically how can they be allowed. ?

There is a theological rupture with St.Dominic Guzman, St. Albert the Great, St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Catherine of Siena.-Lionel Andrades

Roma, 31 gen. 2021 - Basilica papale di Santa Maria Maggiore

Why are the Franciscans Friars of the Immaculate allowed to be part of the administration in the Basilica of St. Mary Majors, Rome when they cannot make a Profession of Faith with the Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II, Catechisms and EENS interpreted rationally ? They reject the Athanasius Creed to with the common false premise.Canonically how can this be allowed

Why are the Franciscans Friars of the Immaculate allowed to be part of the administration of the Basilica of St. Mary Majors, Rome when they cannot make a Profession of Faith with the Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II, Catechisms and EENS interpreted rationally ? They reject the Athanasius Creed with the common false premise.

Canonically how can this be allowed.  - Lionel Andrades

Bishop Vincenzo Apicella fails on all these seven points.His Profession of Faith is meaningless. He supports modernism created with a fake premise. Similarly the Oath Against Modernism would be of no value since he rejects Church teachings on the seven points. Also his Oath of Office as a Bishop would not be sincere


The Bishop of Velletri-Segni, Italy's Profession of Faith is as false as Arius in the third century.Fr. John Zuhlsdorf should object.

Here's a check list of Magisterial documents, interpreted by the bishop with a false premise and inference.

1)Nicene Creed. The bishop uses the false premise and so the understanding is not 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' but three baptisms. They exclude the baptism of water to be objective exceptions for EENS.  

2) Apostles Creed. For the bishop the understanding is that the Holy Spirit teaches the Holy Catholic Church today that outside the Church there is salvation. This is a major change in theology and it comes from 'the revelation' in Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise

3)Athanasius Creed.It has been made obsolete. The text tells us that all need to be Catholic for salvation but there are objective exceptions for the bishop and the Curia in Velletri-Segni.

4)The Dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It was defined by three Church Councils.It did not mention any exceptions but this is not affirmed in the diocese. Since the baptism of desire etc refer to known people saved outside the Church.So they become alleged objective exceptions to EENS.They accept EENS with exceptions in th diocese.

5)Catechisms- Trent, Pius X, Pope John Paul II.They all contradict themselves and the dogma EENS for the bishop.This is the result of using the false premise.

6) Vatican Council II. It is interpreted with the false premise to make much of Tradition obsolete.

7) The baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are interpreted falsely as referring to physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. So the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX is shelved.

Bishop Vincenzo Apicella fails on all these seven points.His Profession of Faith is meaningless. He supports modernism created with a fake premise. Similarly the Oath Against Modernism would be of no value since he rejects Church teachings on the seven points. Also his Oath of Office as a Bishop would not be sincere when he changes doctrine with the use of a fake premise.-Lionel Andrades



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Why should a priest be incardinated in Madison who cannot affirm de fide teachings of the Church? Why should a bishop be approved in the Diocese of Madison who cannot make a Profession of Faith or take the Oath of the Bishop with a rational interpretation of the Nicene Creed ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/why-should-priest-be-incardinated-in.html


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The USCCB and the Leftist state are not separated

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-usccb-and-leftist-state-are-not.html


Why should a priest be incardinated in Madison who cannot affirm de fide teachings of the Church? Why should a bishop be approved in the Diocese of Madison who cannot make a Profession of Faith or take the Oath of the Bishop with a rational interpretation of the Nicene Creed ?


Canonically the bishops, priests and Superiors of religious communities in the Diocese of Madison, USA  must affirm the Creed, Catechisms, EENS, Vatican Council II , the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance without useing a fake premise and inference to create an artificial rupture with de fide teachings.Example, Vatican Council II must not be interpreted irrationally to contradict the Athanasius Creed.The Catechism of the Catholic Church must not contradict 16th century EENS.The Catechism of Pope Pius X must not contradict itself.

The strict interpretation of the dogma EENS is not affirmed in th diocese of Madison since unknown cases of BOD,BOB and I.I are falsely projected as known examples of salvation outside the Church.They are seen as objective exceptions to Tradition(EENS etc).

Why should a priest be incardinated in Madison who cannot affirm de fide teachings of the Church?

Why should a bishop be approved in the Diocese of Madison who cannot make a Profession of Faith or take the Oath of the Bishop with a rational interpretation of the Nicene Creed ? -Lionel Andrades



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The USCCB and the Leftist state are not separated

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-usccb-and-leftist-state-are-not.html


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The Church (Left) and State( Left) are not separated

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-church-left-and-state-left-are-not.html

The Church (Left) and State( Left) are not separated

 The Church (Left) and State( Left) are not separated.

Fr.Georges de Laire,, Judicial Vicar, Diocese of Manchester, USA  owns a private house worth $ 1.5 million it is reported by Church Militant TV.Pope Francis permits this and so do the USCCB and the Vatican. Fr. de Laire interprets Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) with a false premise to create a rupture with 16th century EENS.The State(Left) approves this.

The Fischer-More College, Texas did not have the help of the Bishop Michael Olsen, the Bishop of Fort Worth, Texas.It collapsed.The faculty and students had to affirm Vatican Council II with the false premise to have the Latin Mass at the college chapel.

While the FSSP priests were allowed to offer the Latin Mass in the parishes,since they did not interpret Vatican Council II, without the false premise.If they did,the Council would be in harmony with the missionaries in the 16th century on EENS. 

This was the interpretation of EENS, without the false premise, which Bishop Olsen had to reject to be the new bishop.He had to interpret the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance, with the false premise, to create a rupture with Feeneyite EENS.

His appointment was approved by the Church(Left)and the State(Left).-Lionel Andrades

Crisis and closing

The college's final years were characterized by institutional changes, financial crisis, and church-related controversy. In June 2012, the college changed its name to become The College of Saints John Fisher and Thomas More. A "statement of principles" declared support for Catholic Traditionalism and the Tridentine Mass saying, "We are certain that fidelity to the Usus Antiquior is essential to achieving our mission."[5][failed verification]

In June 2013, the college sold its properties adjacent to the TCU campus and moved into leased facilities in the former Our Lady of Victory Academy, a five-story structure built in 1909 and on the National Register of Historic Places.[6][7] After the move, chancellor and board member Taylor Marshall resigned, later saying that the real estate deal had "financially crippled" the college. College president Michael King defended the property sale in a public statement. Marshall also charged that some Traditionalist speakers at college events had publicly denounced the Second Vatican Council and the reformed rite of Mass supported by Popes since 1970.[8] After a meeting between the college president and newly appointed Fort Worth bishop Michael Olson, the bishop withdrew permission for any celebrations of the Tridentine Mass on the college campus.[8]

The student population declined: in September 2013, the college had 42 students enrolled, of whom 25 returned for the Spring 2014 term. A student-aided internet fundraising effort brought in nearly $300,000 to keep college operations going.In March 2014, the college's landlord sued, claiming that the college had not paid rent or property taxes for four months. The two parties settled on an agreement that the college would vacate the property by May 31, 2014. In his statement on the closing, President King said that the college would not be able to continue without permission from the bishop for priests to offer the traditional Latin Mass on campus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Saints_John_Fisher_%26_Thomas_More


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Signore Gesù portiamo davanti a te tutte le nostre gioie come le nostre debolezze e difficoltà

The USCCB and the Leftist state are not separated

 Fr.Georges de Laire is allowed to sue Michael Voris and the bishops  permit it.Since the Left approves of it.

Fr.Georges de Laire imposes the Decree of Prohibitions against the St.Benedict Center since they do not affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and Vatican Council II with a false premise. The USCCB, the Vatican and the Left approve of it.

Meanwhile Fr. John Zuhlsdorf is told that he is no more incardinated in the diocese of Madison. Of course this is approved by the USCCB, the Vatican and the Left.It is a non separatioin of the secular-Left and the Leftist Catholic Church.Politics and Church are not separated.

Similarly there should be a non separation of the Church(conservatives) and the State ( conservatives).Politics and Church are not separated.

Fr.John Zuhlsdorf should have the legal right to ask the Bishop of Madison, USA to not interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and so create a rupture with Tradition. This is official deception. It's an institutional  lie.

Also a priest in the diocese of Manchester, USA should have the legal right to ask the Catholic Bishop of Manchester to not impose a Decree of Prohibitions on Catholic communities , who do no interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with a fake premise.

An institutional change is needed with the popes, cardinals and bishops not interpreting Magisterial documents with a fake premise.-Lionel Andrades

Signore Gesù il tuo Amore sia la nostra luce guida nell'oscurità, il rifugio sicuro nella debolezza

The Catholic News Agency had to be contacted and informed that the St.Benedict Center,NH does not interpret the baptism of desire,baptism of blood and invincible ignorance with a false premise to create an artificial rupture with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF),United States Conference of Catholic Bishops(USCCB)and the Diocese of Manchester employ this irrationality to reject Tradition

 The Catholic News Agency had to be contacted and informed that the St.Benedict Center,NH does not interpret the baptism of desire,baptism of blood and invincible ignorance with a false premise to create an artificial rupture with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).

The Congregation for the Doctrine  of the Faith(CDF),United States Conference of Catholic Bishops(USCCB)and the Diocese of Manchester employ this irrationality to reject Tradition.

The CNA also had to be told that the St.Benedict Center,NH,unlike the Judicial Vicar and Chancellor in the Diocese of Manchester, does not interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with 16th century EENS. 

LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, Gs 22 etc in Vatican Council II are only hypothetical cases and not  practical exceptions to EENS, for the SBC. -Lionel Andrades

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) should stop citing Vatican Council II unless they also clarify that the Council when interpreted rationally supports the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). The Council is in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed

 The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) should stop citing Vatican Council II unless they also clarify that the Council when interpreted rationally supports the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). The Council is  in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed. Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia must clarify that they made an objective mistake on Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (848-848)in their correspondence with Brother Andre Marie MICM,Prior,St.Benedict Center, New Hamsphire.- Lionel Andrades

Massimo Faggioli knows that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with or without the false premise and the conclusion will be non traditional or traditional, in a rupture or in harmony, with extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Magisterium of the 16th century. So he now chooses to interpret Vatican Council II rationally. He is a full Professor of Theology and Religious Studies at Villanova University, USA and needs to inform them and the organisations he is associated with, of his new understanding of Vatican Council II

 


Massimo Faggioli knows that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with or without the false premise and the conclusion will be non traditional or traditional, in a rupture or in  harmony, with extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Magisterium of the 16th century. So he now chooses to interpret Vatican Council II rationally.

He is a full Professor of Theology and Religious Studies  at Villanova University, USA and needs to  inform them and the organisations he is associated with, of his new understanding of Vatican Council II. -Lionel Andrades



Massimo Faggioli (born 1970) is a Church historian, Professor of Theology and Religious Studies at Villanova University[1] (Philadelphia) and contributing writer to Commonweal magazine.[2] He was on the faculty at the University of St. Thomas (St. Paul, Minnesota) from 2009 to 2016, where he was the founding director of the Institute for Catholicism and Citizenship (2014-2015).[3] Since 2017 he has been an adjunct professor at the Broken Bay Institute - The Australian Institute of Theological Education in Sydney, Australia.[4][5][6]

Early Work

His dissertation discussed the history of the appointment of bishops after the Council of Trent. He studied theology at the Karl-Eberhards-Universität Tübingen from 1999 to 2000 and was invited to work as a post-doctoral researcher in the Faculté de Théologie et Sciences Religieuses at the Université Laval, Québec, in spring 2002.

He worked in the John XXIII Foundation for Religious Studies in Bologna between 1996 and 2008 and received his Ph.D. from the University of Turin in 2002.[7] He was visiting adjunct professor at the University of Bologna, the University of Modena e Reggio Emilia, and at the Free University of Bolzano.

He moved to the United States in 2008, where he was visiting fellow at the Jesuit Institute at Boston College in 2008 and 2009.

Career

He is full professor in the Department of Theology and Religious Studies at Villanova University (Philadelphia). He was the founding director (2014-2015) of the Institute for Catholicism and Citizenship and on the faculty in the Department of Theology at the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul (Minnesota) between 2009 and 2016. He writes regularly for newspapers and journals on the Church, religion and politics, frequently gives public lectures on the Church and on Vatican II. Faggioli was the co-chair of the study group “Vatican II Studies” for the “American Academy of Religion” (2012–2016).[8] He has lectured in North America, Latin America, Europe, and Asia. His publication record includes books (author and editor), articles and essays, book reviews, documentaries, and newspaper columns. His books and essays have been published in academic journals in Europe, North America, Latin America, and Asia, in Italian, English, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, and Czech.

His "Annual Cardinal Joseph Bernardin Lecture" held at the University of South Carolina on October 7, 2013 and published in "America Magazine" on February 24, 2014 issue, focusing on the relationship between Catholics and politics,[9] sparked a debate with Catholic moral theologians such as William Cavanaugh and Michael Baxter.

Since November 2014 he is columnist for La Croix International (formerly Global Pulse Magazine).[10] In November 2015 he started writing for dotCommonweal blog. He also has a column in the Italian Catholic magazine Jesus and in Huffington Post.[11] Since September 2016 he is contributing writer to Commonweal magazine.

He was a consultant for the Implementation Advisory Board into the governance and management of dioceses and parishes of the Catholic Church in Australia commissioned by the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference (ACBC) and Catholic Religious Australia (CRA) (August 2019 – May 2020). The consultancy work contributed to report The Light from the Southern Cross: Promoting Co-Responsible Governance in the Catholic Church in Australia (208 pages and 86 recommendations, published August 2020).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massimo_Faggiol