The Vatican needs to clarify that all the books on Vatican Council II being used at the pontifical universities are written with a false premise ( LG 8, LG 16 are assumed to be exceptions to EENS implying that they are physically visible cases) and this was approved by the popes and the Congregation for Catholic Education, Vatican and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,Vatican. -Lionel Andrades
Wednesday, December 23, 2020
The Society of St. Pius X needs to announce formally that all the books on Vatican Council II, or which refer to Vatican Council II, published by the SSPX Angelus Press, are written with a false premise ( unknown cases of LG 8, LG 16 , UR 3 etc were considered personally known examples of salvation outside the Church)
The Society of St. Pius X needs to announce formally that all the books on Vatican Council II, or which refer to Vatican Council II, published by the SSPX Angelus Press, are written with a false premise ( unknown cases of LG 8, LG 16 , UR 3 etc were considered personally known examples of salvation outside the Church). - Lionel Andrades
Pius XII solemnly defined the Assumption as a dogma of faith and rejected the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation. He projected unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance,as being known and objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) (LOHO, 1949)
Pius XII solemnly defined the Assumption as a dogma of faith and rejected the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation. He projected unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance,as being known and objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) (LOHO, 1949). A New Theology was born which indicated that EENS was obsolete and outside the Church there is known salvation.
So the traditional Catholic kerygma which says Jesus Died and is Risen to save all who believe in Him and live His teachings in the Catholic Church, has been changed.
There is a new kerygma with the New Theology, which says outside the Church there is known salvation and so all do not necessarily have to believe in Jesus or be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.There is also need any more for traditional mission or proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation ( Quas Primas etc). - Lionel Andrades
The Congregation for Catholic Education, Vatican has approved a young Austrian Benedictine priest as Rector of the University of St. Anselm, Rome.He will maintain the division in the Catholic Church. He will interpret all Magisterial documents, including Vatican Council II, with a false premise and inference.
The Congregation for Catholic Education, Vatican has approved a young Austrian Benedictine priest as Rector of the University of St. Anselm, Rome.He will maintain the division in the Catholic Church. He will interpret all Magisterial documents, including Vatican Council II, with a false premise and inference.
He creates the expected break with Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors etc ).-Lionel Andrades
https://www.anselmianum.com/en/2019/12/16/bernhard-a-eckerstorfer-confirmed-as-new-rector/
Cardinal Ratzinger's job as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctine of the Faith was to prepare the Church theologically for a new one world religion.So he accepted a New Salvation Theology and new kerygma.It was based upon the objective error of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which was overlooked by him and the popes from Pius XII
Cardinal Ratzinger's job as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctine of the Faith was to prepare the Church theologically for a new one world religion.So he accepted a New Salvation Theology and new kerygma.It was based upon the objective error of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which was overlooked by him and the popes from Pius XII. - Lionel Andrades
We have a New Salvation Theology and new kerygmatic proclamation
The first 100 popes who were saying everyone needs to believe in Jesus, His Death and Resurrection, for salvation, they were martyred. This was also the message of St. Paul. This became known as the kerygma.
But the popes since Pius XII have indicated that there were known and objective cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church and so there were practical exceptions to the kerygma( 1949 Letter of the Holy Office(LOHO)).
This emerged in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case and LOHO.
It was referred to in Vatican Council II and placed in the Denzinger. So a New Theology emerged.
From the traditional outside the Church there is no salvation, with the New Theology we now have, outside the Church there is known salvation.
Since there is 'known salvation' outside the Church ; non Catholics saved without the Sacraments; people who did not believe in Jesus and who are allegedly in Heaven , and the kerygma was made obsolete. This was a variation, with the New Theology. So the New Theology(CCC 846) states all who are saved, are saved through Jesus and the Church. In other words, there are known cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance and these are exceptions to the traditional Catholic kerygma.
Now when Pope Francis refers to the kerygma he is referring to salvation as not always necessarily, believing in Jesus or being a member of the Catholic Church.
So the Nicene Creed's, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' is also changed. There is a variation. It is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they are the baptisms of desre, blood and invincible ignorance and they are exclude the baptism of water(LOHO)for salvation '.
These exceptions are the BOD, BOB and I.I without the baptism of water, I repeat(LOHO 1949). They are personally known and visible in personal cases, in the present times(LOHO,1949).
This is irrational. It is contrary to common sense. It is innovative and first class heresy and it cannot be magisterial. It violates the Principle of Non Contradiction. How can someone saved outside the Church who is in Heaven and known only to God also be physically visible on earth to be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus?
So when we recite the Nicene Creed in Church, there is a new Profession of Faith, another version of the kerygma. It is Christocentric, in a sense, but not ecclesiocentric. It's an ecumenical kerygma.
We can piece-together the old kerygma from pre-1930 times and undo the new variations which Cardinal Ratzinger maintained as the Prefect of the CDF.-Lionel Andrades
Kerygma and catechesis
Christian theology
Kerygma and catechesis, in Christian theology, respectively, the initial proclamation of the gospel message and the oral instruction given before baptism to those who have accepted the message. Kerygma refers primarily to the preaching of the Apostles as recorded in the New Testament. Their message was that Jesus Christ, in fulfillment of the prophecies of the Old Testament, was sent by God, preached the coming of the Kingdom of God, died, was buried, rose from the dead, and was raised to the right hand of God in heaven. To those who accepted this proclamation, the reward was deliverance from sin, or salvation. Acceptance into the church required conversion—that is, a turning away from a life of sin. Early Christian catechesis was concerned primarily with exhorting those preparing for baptism to follow the way of “life” as opposed to that of “death”; it was distinguished from the more doctrinal instruction that followed one’s baptism. Catechesis was usually accompanied by self-denial and exorcism (an attempt to expel the devil from the potential convert).
The mode of teaching, geared to the general absence of literacy, was characterized by the use of formalized expressions (some of which are preserved in the New Testament). As the practice of infant baptism became more common in subsequent centuries, the relation between instruction and baptism became less obvious. Once an important duty of bishops, instruction was more often left to the parents or parish priests. The emphasis given to the use of the Apostles’ Creed and the Lord’s Prayer as mnemonic devices, as well as the frequent use of numbered lists (seven being a favourite number), is indicative of the rote nature of the instruction during the early medieval period. In the East, the connection between the liturgy and practical instruction had never been lost; this was not the case in the West, where only a minority understood Latin, the language of liturgy and theology.
In the 16th century, the Protestant reform re-emphasized the preached word; both Protestants and Catholics began to make extensive use of written manuals called catechisms (e.g., Luther’s Small Catechism). By the 19th century the term catechetics referred to all religious education outside of that found in the liturgy and preaching. Twentieth-century developments reflected an appreciation of trends in the psychology of learning and pedagogy, as well as the renewal in the theology of the sacraments and in biblical scholarship. In reaction to the abstract catechesis of recent centuries, some have called for a “kerygmatic theology” concerned more with the saving work of Jesus Christ than with scientific, speculative theology. Although this distinction has not been generally accepted, there has been a renewed appreciation of the view of the Christian message as an event to be experienced rather than ideas to be studied. The effect of this movement was to reorientate religious education to a return to the kerygma and catechesis of the New Testament church.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/kerygma
The Diocese of Manchester, USA and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) persecution of Brother Andre Marie MICM is political. The Catechism of the Catholic Church(n847-848 - invincible ignorance) is not an exception to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). The CDF's persecution of the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) is also political
The Diocese of Manchester, USA and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) persecution of Brother Andre Marie MICM is political. The Catechism of the Catholic Church(n.847-848 - invincible ignorance) is not an exception to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
The CDF's persecution of the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) is also political.Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise and it is traditional.The CDF and the SSPX could accept Vatican Council II and Tradition( EENS etc).
The CDF's original excommunicatioin of Fr. Leonard Feeney, as the Holy Office, and the persecution of the St. Benedict Center was also political. The baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance,never ever were exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS.They were only hypothetical and theoretical cases and not real, known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades
Cardinal Ratzinger could have pointed out to Archbishop Lefebvre that Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the irrationality and the traditionalists could choose the rational interpretation of the Council and accept it
Pope Benedict as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) should not have excommunicated Archbishop Lefebvre.The cardinal was creating division in the Church.
Instead he could have pointed out to Lefebvre that Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the irrationality and the traditionalists could choose the rational interpretation of the Council and accept it.
But Cardinal Ratzinger wanted to please the Masons and progressivists.He did not lift the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre.
As Pope Benedict he wanted the SSPX to accept Vatican Council II with the false premise and not without it, for canonical recognition.
So he changed doctrine and wanted the SSPX to accept heresy and innovation. He was expecting Archbishop Lefebvre to do the same. -Lionel Andrades
Archbishop Lefebvre and Fr. Leonard Feeney's excommunication was political. The ecclesiastics wanted the both of them to use the false premise to interpret Magisterial documents.
Archbishop Lefebvre and Fr. Leonard Feeney's excommunication was political. The ecclesiastics wanted the both of them to use the false premise to interpret Magisterial documents. Fr. Leonard Feeney was expected to interpret EENS with a false premise ( invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I were visible) and Archbishop Lefebvre was expected to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise( invisible cases of LG 8 etc were visible examples of salvation outside the Church and exceptions to EENS.- Lionel Andrades
Tuesday, December 22, 2020
The first 100 popes were martyred. Pope Benedict has changed theology with a false premise.It has compromised theology and doctrine. He lives long.Pope Francis is doing the same
The first 100 popes were martyred. Pope Benedict has changed theology with a false premise.It has compromised theology and doctrine. He lives long.Pope Francis is doing the same. -Lionel Andrades
The issue is Feeneyism. Liberals and alleged traditionalists do not want to be traditional Feeneyites in theology and doctrine. Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct when he said there are no exceptions to EENS. How can unknown cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorancde be practical exceptions to EENS ? They cannot. This is common sense. How can an invisible case of someone saved with the baptism of blood and without the baptism of water, be a visible example, for us human beings, of salvation outside the Church ? There is no such person in our reality. His excommunication was lifted after 19 years. Throughout Vatican Council II they kept the excommunication on him while they promoted the lie, the New Theology based on the false premise. Archbishop Lefebvre refused to accept Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise and the excommunication was never lifted during his lifetime
The issue is Feeneyism. Liberals and alleged traditionalists do not want to be traditional Feeneyites in theology and doctrine.
Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct when he said there are no exceptions to EENS. How can unknown cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorancde be practical exceptions to EENS ? They cannot. This is common sense.
How can an invisible case of someone saved with the baptism of blood and without the baptism of water, be a visible example, for us human beings, of salvation outside the Church ? There is no such person in our reality.
His excommunication was lifted after 19 years. Throughout Vatican Council II they kept the excommunication on him while they promoted the lie, the New Theology based on the false premise.
Archbishop Lefebvre refused to accept Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise and the excommunication was never lifted during his lifetime. -Lionel Andrades
Choosing martyrdom means not being attached to the body or life with all its pleasures
Choosing martyrdom means not being attached to the body or life with all its pleasures. - Lionel Andrades
Life is easy and comfortable for the American Dean of Theology at the Angelicum, Rome.She does not want to be a martyr,literally, by interpreting Vatican Council II without the false premise
Life is easy and comfortable for the American Dean of Theology at the Angelicum, Rome.She does not want to be a martyr,literally, by interpreting Vatican Council II without the false premise. - Lionel Andrades
The speakers at the Lepanto Foundation conferences are only Cushingite. They interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise. Roberto dei Mattei does not want to be associated with Tradition. The Left and the Vatican will object. Traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire , USA are not invited to speak
The speakers at the Lepanto Foundation conferences are only Cushingite. They interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise. Roberto dei Mattei does not want to be associated with Tradition. The Left and the Vatican will object.
Traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire , USA are not invited to speak. -Lionel Andrades
The SSPX will not answer. Are their books on Vatican Council II published by the Angelus Press written with a false premise or not ?
The SSPX will not answer. Are their books on Vatican Council II published by the Angelus Press written with a false premise or not ? - Lionel Andrades
I have nothing new to say. I am only affirming the old Faith interpreted rationally
I have nothing new to say. I am only affirming the old Faith interpreted rationally. - Lionel Andrades
Ralph Martin is going ahead and interpreting Magisterial documents with the false premise and he is concerned about the disunity in the Church. If he does not use the false premise , EWTN will have nothing to do with him. Even the Trad Movement will not accept him.
Ralph Martin is going ahead and interpreting Magisterial documents with the false premise and he is concerned about the disunity in the Church. If he does not use the false premise , EWTN will have nothing to do with him. Even the Trad Movement will not accept him. - Lionel Andrades
Over 15 years the web blog Rorate Caeili has not posted a single report on Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise : It's easy to go to Church. It's difficult to proclaim the Faith in 'spirit and truth' and become a martyr
It's easy to go to Church. It's difficult to proclaim the Faith in 'spirit and truth' and become a martyr.
When Catholics change doctrines on Vatican Council II it could be because they do not want to be a martyr for Jesus and the Church.
Over 15 years the web blog Rorate Caeili has not posted a single report on Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise. -Lionel Andrades
When I say Outside The Church There Is No Salvation people think I am a sedevacantist or Lefebvrist. I explain it to them that I am a Conciliar Catholic😁like them except that I interpret Vatican Council II differently.I am also affirming a sub title of the Catechism of the Catholic Church(n.846)
When I say Outside The Church There Is No Salvation people think I am a sedevacantist or Lefebvrist. I explain it to them that I am a Conciliar Catholic😁like them except that I interpret Vatican Council II differently.I am also affirming a sub title of the Catechism of the Catholic Church(n.846)..- Lionel Andrades
Nearly every Sunday at Holy Mass in Italian the priest asks us to affirm the Profession of Faith in a question and answer form.Since his understanding of the Faith as a liberal who uses the false premise, is different from mine,the affirmation of the Profession of Faith so regularly makes no difference.
Nearly every Sunday at Holy Mass in Italian the priest asks us to affirm the Profession of Faith in a question and answer form. Since his understanding of the Faith as a liberal who uses the false premise, is different from mine, the affirmation of the Profession of Faith so regularly makes no difference. - Lionel Andrades
How can Superiors of Religious Communities interpret the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference, which creates an artificial rupture with Catholic Tradition and then expect postulants and novices, to do the same ? How can Franciscans create a break with the teachings on salvation of St. Francis of Assisi ?.How can the Dominicans create a false rupture with St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Dominic. How can the present day Carmelites, Salesians and Redemptorists officially teach the same falsehood ?
How can Superiors of Religious Communities interpret the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference, which creates an artificial rupture with Catholic Tradition and then expect postulants and novices, to do the same ? How can Franciscans create a break with the teachings on salvation of St. Francis of Assisi ?.How can the Dominicans create a false rupture with St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Dominic. How can the present day Carmelites, Salesians and Redemptorists officially teach the same falsehood ?--Lionel Andrades
Cardinal Robert Sarah will offer Mass in the Amazon Rite while he interprets the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II with the common false premise.I have been to his office over the last few months.I have left messages there. No one acknowledges them. No one responds.
Cardinal Robert Sarah will offer Mass in the Amazon Rite while he interprets the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II with the common false premise.I have been to his office over the last few months.I have left messages there. No one acknowledges them. No one responds.
It seems like everyone has to interpret the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance irrationally irrespective of the Rite of the Mass. -Lionel Andrades
John Salza could surface to sign another Roberto dei Mattei/John Henry Weston petition. He seems to have lost interest in Catholic apologetics. I asked him to answer Three questions. He will not do so. A few years have passed. The Five Points ( New Information) exposes the Lefebvrist error, he was supporting all these years
John Salza could surface to sign another Roberto dei Mattei/John Henry Weston petition. He seems to have lost interest in Catholic apologetics. I asked him to answer Three questions. He will not do so. A few years have passed. The Five Points ( New Information) exposes the Lefebvrist error, he was supporting all these years. -Lionel Andrades
My concept of other religions is the same as St. John Bosco -supported by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally.This is Vatican Council II without the common false premise.
My concept of other religions is the same as St. John Bosco-supported by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally i.e without the common false premise. Fr. John Weinandy wil say that the Church is one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic
Bishop Robert Barron thinks Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition and it is a good thing. He has to be shown how only with a false premise and inference Vatican Council II becomes a break with Tradition
Bishop Robert Barron thinks Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition and it is a good thing. He has to be shown how only with a false premise and inference Vatican Council II becomes a break with Tradition.. - Lionel Andrades
Fr.Nicholas Gruner and John Vennari for years would talk about Rahner, Congar and others.They did not know that without the false premise, Vatican Council II would be traditional.So the views of Congar, Rahner and Ratzinger would be irrelevant. Without the false premise the Council supports the strict interpretation of EENS
Fr.Nicholas Gruner and John Vennari for years would talk about Rahner, Congar and others.They did not know that without the false premise, Vatican Council II would be traditional.So the views of Congar, Rahner and Ratzinger would then be irrelevant. Without the false premise, the Council supports the strict interpretation of EENS. -Lionel Andrades
I have to keep checking when liberals like Bishop Robert Barron and Lefebvrists like Dr. Taylor Marshall use the false premise to create a rupture with Catholic Tradition.Both groups will not affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Instead with the false premise, they promote an EENS which has exceptions of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I). Speculative cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are practical exceptions to the Creeds, Catechisms and Syllabus of Errors. So both groups reject Tradition.Both groups do not affirm Tradition by avoiding the false premise
I have to keep checking when liberals like Bishop Robert Barron and Lefebvrists like Dr. Taylor Marshall use the false premise to create a rupture with Catholic Tradition.Both groups will not affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Instead with the false premise, they promote an EENS which has exceptions of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I). Speculative cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are practical exceptoins to the Creeds, Catechisms and Syllabus of Errors. So both groups reject Tradition.Both groups do not affirm Tradition by avoiding the false premise.. -Lionel Andrades
All the propaganda on Rahner, de Lubac, Ratzinger and Balthazar being taught at the pontifical universities in Italy become meaningless when it is discovered that Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise contradicts them all
All the propaganda on Rahner, de Lubac, Ratzinger and Balthazar being taught at the pontifical universities in Italy become meaningless when it is discovered that Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise contradicts them all . - Lionel Andrades
Monday, December 21, 2020
So what if Dietrich von Hildebrand and Teilhard de Chardin had certain views ? At Vatican Council II they needed a concrete theology to make the change. They had to be specific and real in the documents of the Council. The personal views at large of Fr. Joseph Ratzinger were not enough.They had to produce material which would be accepted by the conservatives and traditionalists
So what if Dietrich von Hildebrand and Teilhard de Chardin had certain views ? At Vatican Council II they needed a concrete theology to make the change. They had to be specific and real in the documents of the Council. The personal views at large of Fr. Joseph Ratzinger were not enough.They had to produce material which would be accepted by the conservatives and traditionalists.
When Pope Benedict or Pope Francis quote Vatican Council II the traditionalists respond by saying that the Council is not traditional. That's all. They say that the Council contradicts EENS. That's all. The liberals respond, "Yes it is true."
That is the end of the dialogue.
Both groups agree that the Council is a break with Tradition.
It is the end of any dialogue since conservative Catholics do not know that the Council contradicts Tradition because a subtle false premise was used.
The same false premise was accepted by conservative Catholics when it was there in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
Unknown cases of the baptism of desire were projected as known and practical exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.
Invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance were projected as visible exceptions to EENS as it was known to the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.
Pope Pius XII ignored the error and so did Pope John XXIII.
Pope Paul VI ignored the error and Dietrich von Hildebrand, John Davies and Archbishop Lefebvre did not mentiom it.
The subtle error had got through.
- So we must talk today about the false premise, it is something real and concrete in Vatican Council II.It has to be identified before it can be eliminated.
- It is the liberals and Masons who must talk about Rahner,Congar and Ratzinger and try to distract us from the false premise.-Lionel Andrades
DECEMBER 21, 2020
Why are Dr. Taylor Marshall and Anthony Flanders still talking about Rahner, Kung and De Lubac, let the liberals do it.So what if Rahner, Kung and De Lubac were there at Vatican Council II.So what if they held various concepts ? Since if we do not use their false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Council returns back to Tradition to pre-Vatican Council II times.We go back to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the missionaries of the 16th century
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/why-are-dr-taylor-marshall-and-anthony.html
Why are Dr. Taylor Marshall and Anthony Flanders still talking about Rahner, Kung and De Lubac, let the liberals do it.So what if Rahner, Kung and De Lubac were there at Vatican Council II.So what if they held various concepts ? Since if we do not use their false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Council returns back to Tradition to pre-Vatican Council II times.We go back to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the missionaries of the 16th century
Why are Dr. Taylor Marshall and Anthony Flanders still talking about Rahner, Kung and De Lubac, let the liberals do it.So what if Rahner, Kung and De Lubac were there at Vatican Council II.So what if they held various concepts ? Since if we do not use their false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Council returns back to Tradition to pre-Vatican Council II times.We go back to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the missionaries of the 16th century. -Lionel Andrades
DECEMBER 20, 2020
The popes could announce that in future, authors must not write books on Vatican Council II by interpreting the Council with the false premise.This is a false way to create a rupture with Catholic Tradition. This deception must end.
The popes could announce that in future, authors must not write books on Vatican Council II by interpreting the Council with the false premise.This is a false way to create a rupture with Catholic Tradition. This deception must end.
Also the German Catholic theological industry, must stop producing new theologies and reviews, based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally instead of rationally.
Cardinal Schonborn must clarify that Austrian theologians can interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994)rationally or irrationally and they choose not to use the false premise. The University of Vienna is not Catholic, when it teaches theology with deception. -Lionel Andrades
How do you tell judges of the Italian courts and tribunals that they are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise and that a rational premise is possible ?
How do you tell judges of the Italian courts and tribunals that they are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise and that a rational premise is possible ? -Lionel Andrades
DECEMBER 23, 2019
The Roman Rota and members of Canonists and theological associations in Italy interpret Vatican Council II by confusing invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Even judges of the secular courts in Italy, have had a religious formation at pontifical universities.
Fr.Hadi Daou, the Chaplin and Vice Rector of the Pontifical Maronite College, Rome said on Saturday that he did not know of any one saved in invincible ignorance. He did not know of any one saved outside the Church. If there were any such cases they would only be known to God. I agree with him. This is common sense.So LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II can only refer to hypothetical cases. They are not objectively seen non Catholics. The New Theology in Vatican Council II is based upon the false reasoning in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. The baptism of desire(BOD) and invincible ignorance (I.I) were exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).They (BOD and I.I and LG 8 etc) are not people whom we can meet and see. So they are not exceptions to the present exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and 16th century EENS.Invisible people cannot be exceptions. An exception must exist. The person must be there. We cannot say that any particular person whom we know, will be saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7). A 'possibility' is not an exception in real life. So we can affirm Vatican Council II but not as being a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed. This is a mistake being made by the Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Archbishops Giacomo Morandi and Augustine di Noia.There is not theological basis for the New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Canon Law etc, in Vatican Council II..There is no foundation for them when the Council is interpreted rationally, without confusing what is invisible as being visible.
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So when I say outside the Church there is no salvation I am affirming Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation ( to avoid Hell). The Conciliar Church, in the text of Vatican Council II, supports exclusive salvation. Membership in the Church with faith and baptism are necessary for salvation.It is not Jesus, without the Catholic Church. It is not a vague Christology without an ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. Jesus must not be separated from the Church says Pope John Paul II's encyclical Dominus Iesus.
The Roman Rota and members of Canonists and theological associations in Italy interpret Vatican Council II by confusing invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Even judges of the secular courts in Italy, have had religious formation at pontifical universities.
At the Catholic educational institutions, hypothetical cases were confused as being non hypothetical. So Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are still wrongly interpreted as a split with the past teachings of the Church on exclusive salvation.
So when I say that all non Catholics, including Pentecostals and Evangelicals, are oriented to Hell outside the Catholic Church, this is not just a personal view. I am supported by Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, interpreted rationally. I am affirming what has been the teaching of the Magisterium for centuries.-Lionel Andrades
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TUESDAY, DECEMBER 24, 2019
Roman Rota and Catholic members of the Judiciary in the secular courts in Italy do tell Catholics that Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite ) indicates there are only Catholics in Heaven (Grafics)
-Lionel Andrades
DECEMBER 23, 2019
The Roman Rota and members of Canonists and theological associations in Italy interpret Vatican Council II by confusing invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Even judges of the secular courts in Italy, have had a religious formation at pontifical universities.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/fr.html
DECEMBER 21, 2019
The judiciary in Italy use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II like Abp. Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-judiciary-in-italy-use-false.html
DECEMBER 21, 2019
This is a political issue in Italy, which Salvini and Meloni must bring up before their political opponents, their political parties, the judiciary, ecclesiastics and Italians in general
DECEMBER 18, 2019
La Sapienza University Rome has a Faculty of Law(Jurisprudenza) which interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise
DECEMBER 13, 2019
Catholics are discriminated in Rome because of their religion : seventeen years in Rome and I am still waiting to be a priest.
DECEMBER 12, 2019
Directors of Periodica de re canonica,the journal of the Faculty of Canon Law of the Pontifical Gregorian University interpret Vatican Council II irrationally : so they would discriminate against conservative students
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/directors-of-periodica-de-re.html
DECEMBER 12, 2019
Canonists and speakers at the Archisodalitium, Curiae Romanae conferences overlook deception in the interpretation of Magisterial documents
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/canonists-and-speakers-at.html
DECEMBER 13, 2019
To reject a conservative Catholic student, who affirms EENS, Vatican Council II, all the Catechisms and the Syllabus of Errors is unfair. It is unfair to tell him that Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally, contradicts Tradition
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/to-reject-conservative-catholic-student.html
DECEMBER 11, 2019
Irrationality would also be part of the religious formation of Catholic members of the judiciary in Italy
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/irrationality-would-also-be-part-of.html
DECEMBER 11, 2019
At the Angelicum and Gregorian University,Rome, they approve doctoral thesis only of students who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.This is unethical and dishonest
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/at-angelicum-and-gregorian.html
DECEMBER 10, 2019
There is a formation course at the University of St.Thomas Aquinas, on the new ecumenism, titled Ut Unum Sint which interprets Unitatis Reintigratio in Vatican Council II has having exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/there-is-formation-course-at-university.html
DECEMBER 6, 2019
Correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter, Crux,the Tablet, Commonweal, Catholic Herald, U.K,National Catholic Register and EWTN interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/correspondents-of-national-catholic.html
DECEMBER 5, 2019
Cardinal Ratzinger's theology is the cause of the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.The interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is heretical and it is now common throughout the Church. He did not correct Pope Paul VI when he interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.Instead he produced Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus, based upon the irrational philosophy and theology and then projected it as the Deposit of the Faith
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/cardinal-ratzingers-theology-is-cause.html
DECEMBER 6, 2019
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