Saturday, March 30, 2024

The National Catholic Reporter is a progresive newspaper since it interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. So the conclusion is liberal and not traditional. This is unethical and not Catholic.

 

The National Catholic Reporter is a progresive newspaper since it interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. So the conclusion is liberal and not traditional. This is unethical and not Catholic. -Lionel Andrades

National Catholic Reporter

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The National Catholic Reporter is a progressive national newspaper in the United States that reports on issues related to the Catholic Church. Based in Kansas City, Missouri, NCR was founded by Robert Hoyt in 1964. Wikipedia
Circulation35,000 (as of 2013)
Founded1964
ISSN0027-8939
https://www.ncronline.org/

Friday, March 29, 2024

The National Catholic Reporter, Crux, Commonweal and the Tablet are obsolete now – Catholics know that they can interpret Vatican Council II rationally, traditionally and always with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Times have changed.

 

The National Catholic Reporter, Crux, Commonweal and the Tablet are obsolete now – Catholics know that they can interpret Vatican Council II rationally, traditionally and always with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Times have changed. The NCR can now affirm the ecclesiology of the old Roman Missal in harmony with Vatican Council II.  The ecclesiology of the Latin Mass is supported by the Council.

NO DENIAL

Joan Chittister, Helen Prejean, Father Thomas Reese sj, Nicole Winfield, Cindy Wooden, John Allen Jr (ex-NCR) and other contributors of the NCR make an objective and factual error in their interpretation of Vatican Council II. No one denies it or is willing to comment.


John Allen Jr., ex-NCR now with Cruz News regularly interprets Vatican Council II unethically.He is here promoting a computer app.called Magisterium.com. It also interprets the Creeds, Councils and Catechism with an irrational premise i.e invisible people are visible in 2024, LG 81,14,15,16 refer to physically visible cases in 2024. There has been no  from John Allen and his wife Elise Ann over the years.

NO COMMENT FROM THE NCR

I mentioned on this blog yesterday that 'the  correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational). There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter.' I have e-mailed them.

If the NCR interpreted Vatican Council II rationally (invisible cases of LG 16 etc are invisible in 2024) they would return to Tradition.

When Vatican Council II is interpreted with LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2 and GS 22 being only hypothetical cases in 2024 and so non objective cases and so not exceptions for the dogma EENS, the exclusivist Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the ecclesiocentric Athanasius Creed, they hold the same doctrines on salvation as the traditionalists. The NCR, with Vatican Council II ( rational) affirms the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass of the 16th century. They are in harmony with the St. Benedict Centers in the USA.

If the NCR interpreted Vatican Council II rationally (invisible cases of LG 16 are invisible) then they would be affirming ‘the strict interpretation of EENS’, the Feeneyite version of the Church Councils which defined EENS (1215 Fourth Lateran Council etc). The NCR has an obligation to correct itself on Vatican Council II and EENS since this is the norm of the Catholic Church. It is not the teaching of only the religious community the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. 

Catholics in general need to help the NCR correct its mistake. This is not only the responsibilty of the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire.

The line in purple decides if Vatican Council II is traditional or liberal.

I repeat, interpreting Vatican Council II and EENS rationally, honestly and traditionally, is not only the responsibility of the St. Benedict Centers of Fr. Leonard Feeney in the USA.Since now Vatican Council II ( AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 845,846) are Feeneyite.

All Catholic religious communities, all, must interpret Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with Tradition in general.

We now know that the liberalism in the Church has come through Vatican Council II, irrational i.e. invisible cases of Lumen Gentium 16 (being saved in ignorance, a good conscience and with no fault of the person), for example, are interpreted as being visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 1965-2024 and so are objective exceptions for the dogma EENS and the traditional ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.

The general liberalism is foreign to the Church. It cannot exist in the name of Vatican Council II, which can only be interpreted rationally. There is only one ethical choice.

OBLIGATION TO BE ETHICAL

The NCR has an obligation, ethically, to only interpret Vatican Council II rationally i.e. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 in Vatican Council refer to only hypothetical cases in 2024. It means there are no exceptions in Vatican Council II), for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. The past exclusivist ecclesiology must now be supported by all religious communities and not only the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Centers.

PAPAL DOCUMENTS BASED UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONAL

The NCR, Catholic News Service, Catholic News Agency etc can no more justify , Amoris Laetitia , Traditionis Custode and Fiducia Supplicans in the name of Vatican Council II. Since the Council must be interpreted only rationally by all- Catholics and non Catholics. These Church Documents were issued with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and dishonestly.

TRADITIONALISTS FORTE IS VATICAN COUNCIL II

It is the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary whose forte is now Vatican Council II and the NCR is on the defensive.

1)         The NCR has not been able to issue a statement/report/article on Vatican Council II as interpreted rationally by Brother Andre Marie micm, Prior, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, St. Benedict Center, Richmond, NH, USA.

2)       Neither is the NCR able to comment on the reports which state that the Prefect of Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith and journalists in Rome ( Nicole Winfied, AP etc) interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally.If they would interpret the Council rationally and so ethically,  they would be Feeneyite on EENS like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in New Hampshire.

3. The faculty of theology and the rector of the University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum) in Rome, agree with me. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 etc can only be interpreted as being invisible people. They are  are always only invisible in 2024.The NCR, like Reuters and the Associated Press, are not willing to interview the Theology Faculty at the Angelicum and neither the Master General of the Dominicans. There is no comment from the NCR.

CATHOLIC ANSWERS

4. Catholic Answers (Jimmy Akins/ Karl Keating) for political reasons avoids being ecclesiocentric. So their apologists  interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times. They adapt this objective error to their liberal apologetics.

FEENEYISM WAS THE NORM OVER THE CENTURIES

Over the centuries the Church was Feeneyite, since the baptism of desire etc were interpreted rationally (invisible cases are invisible). Feeneyism was the norm for all Catholics. It is the same today with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Feeneyism is not restricted to the St. Benedict Centers in New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Los Angeles, USA. Religious communities from, Poland, Hungary etc, who are now in Rome, are still Feeneyite. Religious communities  which have correctly rejected Vatican Council II, irrational and the objective mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston are still traditional and Feeneyite.-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 28, 2024

The correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational).There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/the-correspondents-of-national-catholic.html


MARCH 27, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally : Brother Andre Marie micm, Fr. Georges de Laire and the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter : All are Feeneyites on EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/we-are-all-saying-same-thing-when.html

from The National Catholic Reporter

In that dispute, the Diocese of Manchester had accused the Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, New Hampshire, of violating canon law, according to Todd & Weld. The Saint Benedict Center and its members, who call themselves, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, had promoted the position held by their founder, a Jesuit priest named Leonard Feeney, that salvation is only possible through the Catholic Church.

Feeney, who died in 1978, was excommunicated for this view, though he was later reconciled to the church.

The Southern Poverty Law Center also added the center to a list of hate groups in 2007 for its members' antisemitic beliefs.

In 2019, the Diocese of Manchester forbade Catholics from participating in activities with the center and the center from calling itself Catholic because they said that they had warned the group that their position is contrary to Vatican teaching.Right-wing Catholic outlet Church Militant to close in April

https://www.ncronline.org/news/right-wing-catholic-outlet-church-militant-close-april


 

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Thursday, March 28, 2024

Feeneyite Sam Sawyer s.j

 


Sam Sawyer s.j is the editor of the Jesuit magazine America. He is a Feeneyite on extra ecclesiam nulla salus like Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston. He has only one option. It is to accept Vatican Council II and interpret it only rationally. The conclusion: the Jesuits return to Tradition once again.

Interestingly, the first editor of the magazine America was Fr. Leonard Feeney.

The previous editors of America have never disputed what I have written on this blog Eucharist and Mission, and posted to them.

-Lionel Andrades


https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/sam-sawyer-sj

The correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational).There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter.

 

The correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational).There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter.

When Vatican Council II is interpreted with LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2 and GS 22 being only hypothetical cases in 2024 and so non objective cases and so not exceptions for the dogma EENS, the exclusivist Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the ecclesiocentric Athanasius Creed, they hold the same doctrines on salvation as the traditionalists. The NCR affirms the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass of the 16th century. They are in harmony with the St.Benedict Centers in the USA. -Lionel Andrades



MARCH 27, 2024



We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally : Brother Andre Marie micm, Fr. Georges de Laire and the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter : All are Feeneyites on EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/we-are-all-saying-same-thing-when.html


 Heidi Schlumpf  hschlumpf@ncronline.org 
Christopher White    cwhite@ncronline.org
Brian Faga  bfraga@ncronline.org
 Michael Sean Winters mswkna@aol.com
Stephanie Yeagle   syeagle@ncronline.org
 Joshua McElwee  jmcelwee@ncronline.org



DECEMBER 6, 2019

NOVEMBER 5, 2019

These are great days- when I say that Michael Sean Winters and Massimo Faggioli interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) like the traditionalist Brother Andre Marie MICM- and there is no denial from them. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/these-are-great-days-when-i-say-that.html

NOVEMBER 4, 2019
Michael Sean Winters affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) since if asked he would say that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) and LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to invisible and not visible people in 2019. So they are not practical exceptions to the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. I have sent him e-mails of these posts and there is no contradiction from him. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/michael-sean-winters-affirms-strict.html

 NOVEMBER 3, 2019
Michael Sean Winters affirms Vatican Council II and also the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) since the Council supports Feeneyite EENS when it is interpreted rationally.The Council is Feeneyite.He agrees with me.When he supports Fr. Leonard Feeney on EENS he is not in schism since the Council does the same when interpreted rationally. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/michael-sean-winters-affirms-vatican.html

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The National Catholic Reporter cannot keep posting  reviews of books on Vatican Council II,  in which the authors make the same mistake ( Graphics ) https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-national-catholic-reporter-cannot.html

FALSE PREMISE DEFINED  
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible. 
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking  who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.

 With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred  to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now  unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration  etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.

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NOVEMBER 20, 2019 
The National Catholic Reporter reviews of the books  by Fr. Jared Wicks sj and Prof. Paul Lakeland on  Vatican Council II were flawed. The authors made  a mistake ( Graphics)  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-national-catholic-reporter-reviews.html
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NOVEMBER 20, 2019
The National Catholic Reporter's reviews of the books by Fr. Jared Wicks sj and Prof. Paul Lakeland on  Vatican Council II, were flawed.The authors had made a mistake. Vatican Council II was interpreted  by them with false reasoning.The NCR must admit it. Both authors read the Council superficially. Then they assumed hypothetical cases were objective exceptions to the past ecclesiology of the Church.  This is irrational. So the authors conclusions and those of the editors and correspondents of the NCR  were irrational, non traditional and an artifical rupture with Catholic theology and doctrines on salvation  etc. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-national-catholic-reporters-reviews.html 

NOVEMBER 20, 2019 
 Massimo Faggioli and Michael Sean Winters liberalism was based on an irrational  interpretation of Vatican Council II.The National Catholic Reporter had two  books reviewed, which interpreted Vatican Council II with the superficial and false  reasoning.The books were authored by Paul Lakeland  and Fr. Jared Wicks sj.  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/massimo-faggiolis-and-michael-sean.html
NOVEMBER 19, 2019
Michael Sean Winters and Massimo Faggioli have converted ? https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/michael-sean-winters-and-massimo.html
NOVEMBER 19, 2019

The Vatican websites in general have a mistake in   the interpretation of Vatican Council II.  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-vatican-websites-in-general-have.html







Wednesday, March 27, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally : Brother Andre Marie micm, Fr. Georges de Laire and the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter : All are Feeneyites on EENS

 

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally

 








- Lionel Andrades

from The National Catholic Reporter

In that dispute, the Diocese of Manchester had accused the Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, New Hampshire, of violating canon law, according to Todd & Weld. The Saint Benedict Center and its members, who call themselves, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, had promoted the position held by their founder, a Jesuit priest named Leonard Feeney, that salvation is only possible through the Catholic Church.

Feeney, who died in 1978, was excommunicated for this view, though he was later reconciled to the church.

The Southern Poverty Law Center also added the center to a list of hate groups in 2007 for its members' antisemitic beliefs.

In 2019, the Diocese of Manchester forbade Catholics from participating in activities with the center and the center from calling itself Catholic because they said that they had warned the group that their position is contrary to Vatican teaching.Right-wing Catholic outlet Church Militant to close in April

https://www.ncronline.org/news/right-wing-catholic-outlet-church-militant-close-april