POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS ARE NOT MAGISTERIAL ON VATICAN COUNCIL II. I DO NOT CONFUSE WHAT IS INVISIBLE AS BEING VISIBLE. THEY DO SO IN PUBLIC.

 

INVISIBLE CASES FOR ME AND EVERYONE

THESE ARE REFERENCES TO INVISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS OF POPE PIUS IX.EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME ON THIS POINT. THESE ARE INVISIBLE CASES FOR US.

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

 

VISIBLE CASES FOR POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS

THESE ARE VISIBLE CASES FOR POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS.THIS IS AN ERROR.THE ERROR IS NOT MAGISTERIAL.

THESE ARE REFERENCES TO VISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH FOR THE POPES FROM PAUL VI TO FRANCIS. THEY ARE OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED..THIS IS AN OFFICIAL AND PUBLIC ERROR.

POPE FRANCIS IS NOT MAGISTERIAL ON VATICAN COUNCIL II AT PRESENT.

 

 

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

 - Lionel Andrades

 

APRIL 28, 2023

Liberalism is being enforced in the Catholic Church with threats of expulsion of priests and religious sisters on the salvation issue

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/04/liberalism-is-being-enforced-in.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/03/pope-francis-is-offering-novus-ordo.html

DECEMBER 5, 2022

Pope Francis is not Magisterial on Vatican Council II when he chooses the Irrational Premise to interpret the Council . He is Magisterial when he interprets Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise and Inference

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/12/pope-francis-is-not-magisteria-on.html

This is not just my personal view but also those of the popes, cardinals, bishops and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, when they interpret these Magisterial Documents and texts rationally, only.

 

The above badge is Magisterial.I am affirming the teachings of the Catholic Church, inspired by the Holy Spirit.The Church says that there is salvation in only Jesus Christ and in only the Catholic Church.

This is the Magisterial teaching of the Catholic Church when Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted rationally.

They are not magisterial when they are interpreted irrationally. So the Magisterium can have only one interpretation. It is rational and ethical.

So when I affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) I am affirming Vatican Council II and the Catechisms rationally. This is the honest and ethical interpretation.

I am not a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II. Neither am I a liberal who rejects the Fourth Lateran Council (1215). I affirm hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), along with the dogma EENS, as defined by the Council of Florence 1442.It is not either-or. I do not have to choose between the two.

Those who interpret the BOD and I.I irrationaly, as being visible cases, have to choose between the two. It is either BOD or EENS.

This is not just my personal view but also those of the popes, cardinals, bishops and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, when they interpret these Magisterial Documents and texts rationally, only.

When the irrational premise and inference are used by them for political reasons then they are not magisterial-but just political. -Lionel Andrades

INVISIBLE CASES FOR ME AND EVERYONE

THESE ARE REFERENCES TO INVISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS OF POPE PIUS IX.EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME ON THIS POINT. THESE ARE INVISIBLE CASES FOR US.

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

 

VISIBLE CASES FOR POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS

THESE ARE VISIBLE CASES FOR POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS.THIS IS AN ERROR.THE ERROR IS NOT MAGISTERIAL.

THESE ARE REFERENCES TO VISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH FOR THE POPES FROM PAUL VI TO FRANCIS. THEY ARE OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED..THIS IS AN OFFICIAL AND PUBLIC ERROR.

POPE FRANCIS IS NOT MAGISTERIAL ON VATICAN COUNCIL II AT PRESENT.

 

 

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

 

Sister Mary Peter micm has been elected Mother Prioress of the religious community Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, USA. Brother Andre Marie micm has been re-elected as the Prior. This is the community which interprets Vatican Council II rationally, unlike the other religious communities in New Hampshire.

 Sister Mary Peter micm has been elected Mother Prioress of the religious community Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, USA. Brother Andre Marie micm has been re-elected as the Superior of the community and Prior of the  Brothers. This is the community which interprets Vatican Council II rationally, unlike the other religious communities in New Hampshire.Sister Marie Therese was the previous Mother Prioress mcim.

They also affirm the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and did not mention any exceptions. There are no exceptions in the text of Vatican Council for EENS as it was interpreted over the centuries, for this community.

They accept hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I). They do not project BOD and I.I as practical exceptions for EENS.Since this would be irrational and non traditional. This was a mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston.

They attend the Latin Mass offered with the 1962 Missal. It is approved by  Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop of Manchester in NH.

Bishop Libasci interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and so produces alleged exceptions for the Fourth Lateran Council and the Council of Florence. He also contradicts Vatican Council II (LG 14, AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (845,846).He also contradicts the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24Q, 27Q on EENS).His interpretation of the Nicene Creed, Apostles Creed and Athanasius Creed is nontraditional and heretical.There is no denial from him, for political reasons. It is approved by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which makes the same objective mistake.

Bishop Libasci is politically approved by the USCCB.So no Decree of Prohibitions has been issued against him or Archbishop Augustine di Noia, the Secretary of the CDF, Vatican.

The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, in New Hampshire, is the only known community in the whole world, which interprets Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils, Catechisms, EENS, Vatican Council II etc, rationally and not irrationally. They affirm EENS like the founders of the Jesuit and Dominican religious communities. –Lionel Andrades

 

 

 

 

https://catholicism.org/author/sistermarypeter

https://catholicism.org/sister-mary-peter-is-now-our-mother-prioress.html

Liberalism is being enforced in the Catholic Church with threats of expulsion of priests and religious sisters on the salvation issue

 

LIBERALISM ENFORCED WITH THREATS OF EXPULSION OF A PRIEST OR RELIGIOUS SUPERIOR

Today there is peace because the Catholic Church has changed its doctrines and theology with an irrational premise and inference to produce a fake break with Tradition. This rupture is being enforced by the Vatican and the Left, with the threat of expulsion of a priest or religious sister, for political –left reasons.So even conservative Catholics interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and unethically and avoid legal accusations.

This liberalism in the Catholic Church is being enforced  politically with everyone having to pretend that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2 GS 22 etc  in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water. This is even though there are no such cases in our human reality.

SSPX SEMINARIANS ACCEPT LIBERALISM

So the four or five seminarians of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) at Albano, Italy who also study at the pontifical universities have to pretend that outside the Church there is known salvation. They must accept the liberalism and only then can become priests. This is a legal issue.

NEW VERSION OF THE NICENE CREED FOR ALL.

So the Nicene Creed 1 for them becomes, “I believe in three or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sins, (desire, blood, seeds of the Word, imperfect communion with the Church etc) which will exclude the baptism of water. So they are exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). The Fourth Lateran Council (1215) is now obsolete”.

LIBERALISM AFFECTS APOSTLES CREED, ATHANASIUS CREED ETC.

The liberalism is also there in the interpretation of the Apostles Creed. It is understood that ,’the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church’ now teaches that outside the Church there is known salvation, visible cases of non Catholics saved without faith and baptism, while in the past the Holy Spirit taught that outside the Catholic Church there was no salvation.' So there is ‘a new revelation’ with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally i.e. invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 16 etc are assumed to be visible examples of salvation outside the Church. This is even though today’s understanding of salvation would be heretical, schismatic and dishonest for the Magisterium over the centuries. The Athanasius Creed is thrown out.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/10/creeds-are-no-more-sign-of-unity-in.html

NO PRIEST OR BISHOP CAN JOIN THE ST. BENEDICT CENTER IN NH

The practical result is that today there is no priest or bishop who is allowed to join the Catholic religious community Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, at the St. Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire, USA. Since they interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so there are no practical exceptions mentioned in the Council-text for the Fourth Lateran Council  and the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. For  them there is no new revelation with Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally. Any priest or bishop who will live with this religious community will be accused of being Anti Semitic and the Diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire. Even the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, will have to disown them,to avoid the Anti Semitism charge.

MICHAEL VORIS AVOIDS BEING CHARGED BY THE ARCHBISHOP OF DETROIT

This is why when Michael Voris went to New Hampshire and interviewed Brother Andre Marie micm, the Prior, of the SBC in NH, Church Militant TV did a U-turn. They  quickly posted the report ‘Fr. Feeney’s Strange Doctrines by Jim Russell. It  interpreted the baptism of desire etc in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office and LG 14 and 16 etc, in Vatican Council II, with the common fake premise and inference. So CMTV in public rejected the Fourth Lateran Council, the Council of Florence and the rational interpretation of the baptism of desire etc. CMTV avoided losing their status as a charitable organisation, whose donations are tax exempt. 

 Also Michael Voris was not excommunicated by the Archbishop of Detroit, just like Pope Benedict pushed out Bishop Richard Williamson and the SSPX expelled Fr. Florian Abrahamowich.  -Lionel Andrades

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NICENE CREED

We believe in one God,

the Father, the Almighty,

maker of heaven and earth,

of all that is seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,

the only Son of God,

eternally begotten of the Father,

God from God, Light from Light,

true God from true God,

begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.

Through him all things were made.

For us men and for our salvation

he came down from heaven:

by the power of the Holy Spirit

he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,

he suffered, died, and was buried.

On the third day he rose again

in fulfillment of the Scriptures;

he ascended into heaven

and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,

and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,

who proceeds from the Father and the Son.

With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.

He has spoken through the Prophets.

We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.

We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.

We look for the resurrection of the dead

and the life of the world to come. Amen.

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2016

The Vatican Curia interprets the Nicene Creed with irrational Cushingism : 'I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins.'

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-vatican-curia-interprets-nicene.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/search?q=Nicene+Creed