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AM122. Sur Pachelbel : REINE de VICTOIRE

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French Superiors must know that Church doctrine and tradition is on their side they need to go on the offensive.Affirm Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) and let the French bishops rebel

French SSPX-Superiors: Rebellion Against Agreement


Seven priors of the French district of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and three superiors of male orders connected to the SSPX have expressed their disagreement over the recognition of SSPX marriages by Pope Francis. A letter issued by them was read last Sunday in French SSPX chapels.

The ten state that marriages contracted with the SSPX were always valid due to the present crisis of the Church. Therefore they are not ready to register SSPX marriages with the local dioceses and will not accept „to be unjustly governed" by local bishops.


Lionel: The local bishops do not nterpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyite theology.If they did then the Council will be a problem for them.Vatican Council would support the old ecclesiology of the Church which the French SSPX Superiors already affirm and the local bishops deny.
If the local bishops are asked to affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite) there will be a new tension. They will refuse to do this.This will create problems with the SSPX priests.The SSPX priests affirm outside the Church there is no salvation by side stepping Vatican Council II(Cushingite) but still with the New Theology. With Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite), the local French bishops will want to step away from all magisterial documents interpreted with Feeneyism, with rationality in philosophy.Without the New Theology they are back to the 'old religion' which the SSPX affirms.
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They expected the SSPX to be recognised by the Vatican while remaining independent from the local bishops but fear that the bishops, after this first step, will get further possibilities to influence internal SSPX affairs like opening new houses.
Lionel: The French Superiors need to discard the New Theology while interpreting Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), just as I do.In this way primarily there is doctrinal harmony within the community.There is no tension over Vatican Council II which would not contradict the old ecclesiology of the Church. There would also be doctrinal harmony with the sedevacantists and conservative Catholics. Since pre and post Vatican Council II ecclesiology would once again be exclusivist.
It is the French bishops who would now have to come in unity with the doctrines of the Church including Vatican Council II interpreted rationally ( invisible cases are invisible, there are no visible exceptions to EENS in 2017).It is the French bishops instead of the traditionalists, who will not be in harmony with the Deposit of the Faith.
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So it is important for the French Superiors to reiterate the 2012 General Chapter Statement of the SSPX 1 and ask the local bishops to do the same.
For this reason it seems opportune that we reaffirm our faith in the Roman Catholic Church, the unique Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation- SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012
The doctrinal requirement for reconciliation with the Vatican, according to the General  Chapter meeting, was affirming the dogma outside the church and there is no salvation and there being no known exceptions. The Vatican in 2012 refused to come back to the faith.Now the French superiors must repeat the 2012 demand.
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The letter also criticises Pope Francis for turning Catholic morals upside down by introducing Communion for adulterers: „We have no choice but to protect ourselves from such an authority.”
Lionel: Pope Francis presented a kerygma without the necessity of membership in the church.
Pope Francis did not tell the Lutherans that they are outside the Church and need to convert for salvation.They are on the way to Hell.
He does not tell the Jews that they are all oriented to Hell in 2017 according to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14).
He does not tell the Muslims that they will all be going to the same place where Mohammad is and that there are no known exceptions according to Vatican Council II.(AG 7).
He does not tell the Jewish Left ( ADL etc) that Catholics are the new people of God(NA 4), they are the new Chosen People according to Vatican Council II.Neither do the French bishops seem to know this.
Pope Francis and the French bishops do not state that since there is no known salvation outside the Church, a priority for saving all souls is the non separation of Church and State. All political laws must have as their center Jesus Christ as he is known in the Catholic Church.
Pope Francis like the local French Bishops does not say that there is no salvation outside the Church according to Vatican Council II and so all Christians need to enter the Church with Catholic faith. For salvation they need the Sacraments of the Church and the traditional moral and faith teachings.
The French Superiors can bring all this to the attention of Pope Francis and the local French bishops by:-
1.Afirming Vatican Council with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism.
2.Affirming Vatican Council II without the New Theology and so with the old ecclesiology.When the New Theology is avoided we are automatically back to the old theology. We do not have to create any thing new.
3.Affirming Vatican Council II without  the false premise and instead with a rational premise(we cannot physically see people in Heaven) and inference( invisible people cannot be visible exceptions to the dogma on earth in 2017).
4.Affirming invisible cases are invisible and invisible baptism of desire is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.
They need to contradict Pope Benedict's March 2016 statement in the daily Avvenire which is supported by the French bishops.He said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century since there was a development with Vatican Council II. He meant Vatican Council II Cushingite(invisible cases are visible, so the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma EENS). With Vatican Council II Feeneyite there is no development. Vatican Council II Feeneyite could be the cause of a rebellion by the French bishops.They may still want their false theology and false doctrines.
French Superiors must know that Church doctrine and tradition is on their side they need to go on the offensive.Affirm Vatican Council II and let the French bishops rebel.-Lionel Andrades
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http://archives.sspx.org/superior_generals_news/2012_general_chapter/2012_general_chapter_statement_7-19-2012.htm

Bishop Schneider did not tell the Polish people that John Paul II made a theological mistake.Vatican Council II does not contradict the exclusivist ecclesiology of the past.

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In the interview he recently gave to a Polish Catholic daily mainstream paper and reproduced on Rorate Caeili Bishop Schneider did not tell the Polish people that John Paul II made a theological mistake.Vatican Council II does not contradict the exclusivist ecclesiology of the past.1
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He does not say 'there is no other religion which saves man, except the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church is the unique Church of God, because the Church is the living Christ Himself. Jesus Christ is really corporally risen from the dead and there are no known exceptions in 2017, there cannot be any known exception in 2017. The baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.There is only the ordinary means of salvation and there is no extra ordinary way. Since we humans cannot know of an extraordinary way of salvation.' physically visible).He chose not to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. He does not state that invisible cases cannot be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc cannot be exceptions to esclusive salvation in the Church.
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Vatican Council II cannot be an exception to the old exclusivis ecclesioloy of the Church which he has affirmed in the interview to the Polish paper.
He did not tell the Polish people that there is no development of the dogma as Pope John Paul II also may have wrongly assumed.He did not contradict the statement of Pope Benedict in March 2016.For him there is a development of the dogma EENS with Vatican Council II.Pope John Paul II was not wrong for him.
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So theologically Bishop Athansius Schneider contradicts himself. He also interprets Vatican Council II with an irrationality. He isnot really affirming the Faith theologically.His reasoning is the same as the liberals and Masons on this issue.He does not find fault with my interpretation of Vatican Council II and nor has he corrected me over the last six or seven years.

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Pope John Paul II overlooked the Cushingite theology in Vatican Council II, Redemptoris Missio and Dominus and in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846,1257).

Without the Cushingite theology there are no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the past ecclesiocentrism which was based on Feeneyite outside the Church there is no salvation.
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Bishop Schneider completely ignored this point. If he affirmed Feeneyite Vatican Council II he would be saying all Jews need to enter the Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) and there are no exceptions.There can be no exceptions.Hypothetical cases cannot be objective exceptions in 2017. Similarly he would be saying that according to Vatican Council II(Ad Gentes 7 and the dogma EENS, Feeneyite) all Muslims are going to Hell where Mohammad is, since they die without 'faith and baptism' and there can be no known exceptions to the dogma EENS and the old exclusivist ecclesiocentrism in 2017.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 

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Bishop Athanasius Schneider incoherent and confused



 

 

Bishop Athanasius Schneider incoherent and confused

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Bishop Athanasius Schneider contradicts himself in the interview he recently gave to a Polish Catholic daily mainstream paper.
Like the SSPX bishops he does not state the obvious, which is, invisible-for-us- baptism of desire is not visible for us. So it is not an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.
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For him it is an exception.
So he contradicts himself in the interview he recently gave to a Polish  daily.
He accepts the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston which assumed invisible cases are visible. They are exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Bishop Schneider says 'There is no other religion which saves man, except the Catholic Church.' However he is also saying that there are other religions in which non Catholics can be saved and so are saved.
So for him there are known cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance  or the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.Theologically the bishop is denying the exclusivist ecclesiology of the past. He has adopted the New Theology  based on invisible cases being visible.Then he infers that these 'visible invisible' cases are  relevant and exceptions to EENS.
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So for him theoretically there can be non Catholic cultures and civilizations in which a non Catholic can be saved and so these theoretical cases are explicit exceptions in 2017 to the dogma EENS. All do not need to formally enter the Church in 2017 for him.
According to the new theology it may not even be necessary to have explicit faith in Jesus for salvation.So Bishop Robert Barron suggests most people are saved even though they are not in the Catholic Church.
This was the reasoning in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. It was also the reasoning of Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits at Vatican Council II, especially when they composed Nostra Aetate.
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So if invisible for us baptism of desire can be an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS, then the Church is saying; the present magisterium is saying 'There are other religions in which non Catholics are saved and they are saved by the Catholic Church. So every body does not  need to be a member of the Catholic Church any more. There is salvation outside the Church.For example invisible for us baptism of desire is known salvation outside the Church. Hypothetical cases of being saved in invincible ignorance are concrete exceptions to the interpretation of the dogma EENS as it was known to  the 16th century magisterium '.
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So theologically the bishop is saying not every one in 2017 needs to formally enter the Church for salvation.He contradicts himself.
He is supported by the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 and 1257 which assumes hypothetical cases are exceptions to the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.
This is the New Theology. It is philosophically based on invisible cases being visible, what is hypothetical being defacto known.It is based on philosophical subjectivism which suggests we can decide who are explicit exceptions to the dogma EENS as it was known over the centuries.We can judge.
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Archbishop Augustine Di Noia  in an interview with Edward Pentin for the National Catholic Register confirmed this. He interpreted Lumen Gentium 8 (elements of sancitification and truth) as referring to known cases among his Protestants friends, who he believed would go to Heaven even though they were not Catholics.He could subjectively judge.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider accepted  silently what Pope Benedict said in March 2016.He said the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more like it was in the 16th century.So he is a  Cushingite like Pope Benedict and Pope Francis.
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Pope Benedict said that there was a development of the dogma with Vatican Council II. He meant that Vatican Council II ( LG 16)etc interpreted with Cushingism contradicted the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This has been accepted by Bishop Schneider.For him too LG 16 refers to objective, explicit, seen in the flesh cases in 2017 who have been saved outside the Church, they have been saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).The irrational inference is part of Bishop Schneider's theology too.
So even though he says' there is no other religion which saves man, except the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church is the unique Church of God, because the Church is the living Christ Himself ', he means there are exceptions .There are known exceptions for him. Some people do not need to enter the Church for salvation for him. The baptism of water is not necessary for salvation for some people, according to him.Some people do not need to be members of the Church for salvation since they could be saved in invicible ignorance or the baptism of desire...
He does not  say 'there is no other religion which saves man, except the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church is the unique Church of God, because the Church is the living Christ Himself. Jesus Christ is really corporally risen from the dead and there are no known exceptions in 2017, there cannot be any known exception in 2017. The baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.There is only the ordinary means of salvation and there is no extra ordinary way. Since we humans cannot know of an extraordinary way of salvation.'
If he said this then he would be coherent.
However he would then be saying that the present magisterium of the two popes has made a factual error.They should have interpreted Vatican Council II and all magisterial documents with Feeneyism( invisible cases are invisible) instead of Cushingism ( invisible cases  are physically visible).
He chose not to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. He does not state that invisible cases cannot be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc cannot be exceptions to  esclusive salvation in the Church.
Vatican Council II cannot be an exception to the old exclusivis ecclesioloy of the Church which he has  affirmed in the interview to the Polish paper.
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He did not tell the Polish people that there is  no development of the dogma as Pope John Paul II also may have wrongly assumed.He did not contradict the statement of Pope Benedict in March 2016.For him there is a development of the dogma EENS with Vatican Council II.Pope John Paul II was not wrong for him.
So theologically Bishop Athansius Schneider contradicts himself. He also interprets Vatican Council II with an irrationality. He is not really affirming  the Faith theologically.His reasoning is the same as the liberals and Masons on this issue.He does not find fault with my interpretation of Vatican Council II and nor has he corrected me over the last six or seven years.
He criticizes correctly the subjectivity in Amoris Laeititia.However he uses this same subjectivity to assume there are known cases of the baptism of desire etc.He judges. He infers.He assumes. He presumes.He contradicts.For him there are known exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is a lack of coherence in his otherwise welcome statements.
He opposes subjectivity in moral theology but not in salvation theology.
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When he says 'there is no other religion which saves man, except the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church is the unique Church of God, because the Church is the living Christ Himself. Jesus Christ is really corporally risen from the dead', he could mean all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church. This is the liberal theology of Pope Benedict.This is the Rahner-Ratzinger New Theology.
It is an attempt to replace the past ecclesiocentrism with a new theology based on an irrationality. It has worked.Bishop Schneider has falled for it.
The New Theology  infers that there are known cases of people saved with the baptism of desire etc and without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. So every one does not need to enter the Church as members, but only 'those who know'.This is a new theology which creates
 new doctrine.It is magisterial.It is not guided by the Holy Spirit.The Holy Spirit cannot create a theology based on a philosophical error, a factual mistake. The Holy Spirit will not contradict the teachings of the past centuries by violating the Principle of Non Contradiction and causing a split between faith and reason as we have known it throughout the centuries.
So the New Theology creates a new doctrine which says not every one needs to formally enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell but only those who know.
Or, every one needs to enter the Church for salvation except for those in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire and blood.
Or, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins'(Nicene Creed) and this includes being saved with the 'seeds of the Word(AG 11), imperfect communion with the church'(UR 3) elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8) etc, all without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
Or, outside the Church there is no salvation but a Protestant can be saved in his religion through Jesus and the Church.
Or, since there is known salvation outside the church every one does not need convert, there could be thousands of people saved outside the Church,may be even most people and it would be known only to God.
Etc, etc,the can of worms has been opened with invisible cases being visible.

-Lionel Andrades


MAY 7, 2017

There is no other religion which saves man, except the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church is the unique Church of God, because the Church is the living Christ Himself. Jesus Christ is really corporally risen from the dead - Bishop Athansius Schneider

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/there-is-no-other-religion-which-saves.html


Scientific Evidence Of Host Particles Walked On In Catholic Churches

I left this particle on the paten after giving Holy Communion this morning at Holy Latin Mass to take a picture of it.  I did this so to show the world scientific proof that large particles, like this one, are falling on the ground and being walked on in most Catholic churches that do not have patens to catch these particles.
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I left the paten in a protected area on the altar until after Holy Mass so that I could take the picture of it.  I them consumed the particle and purified the paten.  It is quite often that I see these particles and carefully brush them off the paten into the chalice after the altar boys pass the paten to me at the end of Holy Communion. or a progressve moernist Catholic, you should at least care that  particles of Jesus from the Holy Communion are falling on the ground and being stomped on all the time in Catholic Churches through out the world.  Here is the scientific proof.  You can see the white particle on the upper right hand side of the paten.
I left the paten in a protected area on the altar until after Holy Mass so that I could take the picture of it.  I them consumed the particle and purified the paten.  It is quite often that I see these particles and carefully brush them off the paten into the chalice after the altar boys pass the paten to me at the end of Holy Communion.

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 All over the world where I travel, the only place I still see patens being used is in Mexico. Here in the United States the use of a paten is very rare and considered “extreme traditionalism”. Jesus is dropped on the floor, walked on, to make sure we are not “traditionalist”.


The exact same thing happens when the Holy Communion is given in the hand. Wear black cotton gloves the next time you receive Jesus on the hand. You will see tiny specks and large specks depending on what comes when the host is given.
All over the world where I travel, the only place I still see patens being used is in Mexico.  Here in the United States the use of a paten is very rare and considered “extreme traditionalism”.  Jesus is dropped on the floor, walked on, to make sure we are not “traditionalist”.
The exact same thing happens when the Holy Communion is given in the hand.  Wear black cotton gloves the next time you receive Jesus on the hand.  You will see tiny specks and large specks depending on what comes when the host is given.
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Again, permission to receive Holy Communion in the hand is an Indult (out of the ordinary permission to do and can be revoked at any time). It was given to some countries where, in disobedience, some priest began copying protestants.  The protestants purposely  receive the bread in the hand to show that it is not God/Jesus in the bread they eat at their  services.
Let us all pray for an end of the walking of God on the floor of Catholic Churches. And we can start by receiving Jesus humbly on the tongue kneeling down.  Copy this picture and give it to your parish priest.  Ask him if he has seen large particles fall too.
Forgive us Jesus for not loving you and protecting you from sacrilegious tramplings underfoot.

Scientific Evidence Of Host Particles Walked On In Catholic Churches



www.traditionalcatholicpriest.com/…/scientific-evid… Whether you are a traditional Catholic or a progressive modernist Catholic, you should at least care that particles of Jesus from the Holy Communion are falling on the ground and being stomped on …

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Modesty: a forgotten virtue

Modesty: a forgotten virtue
Quo Primum
 
Needed now in church and out.
NOTICE:
The Church requires that all who present themselves before Altar (the Eucharistic throne of Almighty God), present themselves in respectful and decent attire.
Shorts, T-shirts, tight and sleeveless clothing are not acceptable for men; nor are trousers, mini-skirts, sleeveless, low cut or tight dresses for women.
Women should be dressed in skirts or dresses reaching well below the knees. Also girls and women should enter the church with some form of head covering, as enjoined by St. Paul (I Cor. xi).
Men should appear in the House of God in long trousers, collared shirts and with their heads uncovered.
Please be mindful of our wishes in this regard. Also once inside the church, respectful silence is to be maintained. Many thanks for your kind co-operation!


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