There is a new Eucharistic theology being implemented in the churches in Rome. It is supported by Pope Francis.

 There is a new Eucharistic theology being implemented in the churches in Rome. It is supported by Pope Francis.

Today morning the Rector of the church at Mass said that the Eucharist was for everyone contradicting the statements of St. Paul in the readings of today. The Bible tells us that the Eucharist must be received only by those who are worthy.

It is not to be given out on the streets to everyone.

But the Augustinian Recollect priest today has to follow the political instructions on the Eucharist supported by the local police. The police in Italy are like the Iranian pasdaran.The police along with the Vatican, prepare the country for a new global religion which will use the churches in Rome. It will be a false imitation of the Catholic Church with no Eucharistic rules. This is already being applied de facto. The Eucharist is being given to all in this church. It is given to also Muslims, who are not prepared with Catholic faith and the baptism of water or who have not renounced their old religion.

The new global religion is expected to be Masonic, with the people accepting all religions equally and also Satan in some form. People will be expected to follow Satan, or, face some COVID like restrictions on movements etc.

So the Rector of the Augustinian Recollect church today for the 10 a.m Mass rejected Pope John Paul II’s Ecclesia di Eucharistia which says the Eucharist must be accepted worthily. There are conditions for giving and receiving the Eucharist.It is not an ordinary piece of bread.

But this priest knows that politically this is not possible since the Left would demand that the Eucharist be given to all. He has to go along with this new theology on the Eucharist or be transfered.

Pope Francis has been downplaying the Eucharist in preparation for the global, one world religion. The annual Corpus Christi procession in central Rome this month has been prohibited and instead there was the Pride procession. There was no objection from Pope Francis.

The priest said that the Eucharist is the body of Jesus this is true but he was not willing to say that over the centuries it was the magisterial teaching that only Catholics receive it.Only those Catholics can receive it who are not not in a state of mortal sin. Outside the Church there is no salvation is a dogma of the Church and Vatican Council II supports it, when interpreted rationally.

The readings at Mass said that the Eucharist was necessary. It was necessary to receive the Eucharist for eternal life.Outside Jesus in the Sacrament, there is no salvation. Without the Sacrament of the Eucharist in the Catholic Church there is no salvation. This was the traditional understanding.

The Augustinian Recollect priests like the priests of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) are not allowed to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since it contradicts the work of the Masons working for a new religion which will be blasphemous for Catholics. So to protect their position as rector or parish priest,  at Mass in the vernacular and Latin, they do not affirm the dogma EENS.They are also giving the Eucharist to everyone.They are using the political slogans of Pope Francis and the Left.

No one mentioned that the participants at yesterday’s Pride procession were going to Hell. Since none of this figure as doctrines in the expected one world religion. This is not part of their Catholic religion. They do not believe in the traditional Catholic teachings any more.They are working for for a new future Church, in Rome where the churches are in the possession of the Ministry of Interior of Leftist governmets.

The teachings of the Catholic Church on faith and morals were changed with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally and now there is a new Eucharistic theology which says that anyone can be given the Eucharist including those in public mortal sin. - Lionel Andrades

JUNE 30, 2011

EVERYBODY NEEDS THE EUCHARIST TO GO TO HEAVEN - Fr.Marcos Renacia, Augustinian Recollect priest

‘The Eucharist is the ordinary means of salvation’, said Fr. Marcos Renacia, an Augustinian-Recollect priest. ‘Everyone on earth de facto needs the Eucharist to go to Heaven’.

Hypothetically, in a way known only to God, through the extraordinary means God can save a non Catholic who is not a member of the Church who has not received the Sacrament of the Eucharist, he agrees, de facto we do not know a single case such case.

De facto everyone on earth needs the Eucharist to avoid Hell. De jure, in principle, there could be the possibility of someone saved who has not received this Sacrament.

The Church is the ordinary means of salvation states Pope John Paul II in Redemptoris Missio 55. The Church is the Mystical Body of Christ (Ad Gentes 7).Jesus saves through the Sacraments, those who respond (Dominus Iesus 20) by entering the Church.

Fr. Marcos was commenting on the Gospel Reading last Sunday (Corpus Domini) in which Jesus says the Eucharist was needed for salvation (John 6). he was speaking with me at the Augustinian– Recollect Church in Rome. We were comparing the dogmatic teaching extra ecclesiam nulla salus (outside the Church there is no salvation) with the Eucharist being needed for all.

Fr. Marcos chose to use the defacto-dejure explanation of this issue, especially, when asked if ‘all non Catholics need to explicitly receive the Sacrament of the Eucharist for salvation; to go to Heaven and avoid Hell ?’

The words de facto and de jure are used in the Introduction to Dominus Iesus.

‘De facto salvation’  used here  is synonymous with explicit salvation. It refers to the baptism of water which is visible and repeatable. It refers to Catholic Faith which is taught explicitly. It is the ordinary means of salvation.

‘Dejure salvation’ is synonymous with implicit salvation. It refers to the baptism of desire, those saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience, perfect contrition, in partial communion with the church or saved by the Word of God. It is not the ordinary means of salvation and depends on God’s grace. It’s an extra ordinary form of salvation.

When Fr.Marcos says that the Eucharist is the ordinary means of salvation he refers to de facto salvation. Since we do not personally know any case of de jure salvation, we assume everybody needs to de facto receive the Eucharist. Everyone we  meet needs the Sacraments. There is no exception that we know of.

This is the official teaching of the Church through the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.(Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441, Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II, Redemptoris Missio 55, Catechism of the Catholic Church 846, Dominus Iesus 20, Ecclesia di Eucarestia etc.)

The Church documents, Magisterial texts, indicate everyone de facto needs the Sacraments to go to Heaven.

The understanding of Church (ecclesiology) in Ecclesia di Eucarestia was based on outside the Church there is no salvation, complained Cardinal Walter Kasper. In the magazine 30 giorini he said no one today believes in outside the Church there is no salvation. He complained that Ecclesia di Eucarestia also ignored the Orthodox Christians, who have a valid Eucharist.

Orthodox Christians are ‘schismatics’ according to Cantate Domino, ex cathedra. They need to convert into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell according to the dogma. We may call them ‘true’ churches and ‘sister’ churches but the dogma says they are all oriented to Hell. We are not permitted to receive the Eucharist at their churches. Neither are they permitted to receive the Eucharist at Catholic Churches.

Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II has the same message. It says all need baptism for salvation. Catholics only give the baptism of water to adults with Catholic Faith. The Orthodox Christians donot have Catholic Faith.

Just as a Catholic in mortal sin is not to receive the Eucharist even though Jesus is still present in the Eucharist an Orthodox Christian is not to receive the Eucharist at a Catholic Church.it is a sin. Cantate Domino indicates Orthodox Christians are in mortal sin (‘schismatics’).De facto they are all on the way to Hell.

So when Jesus says ‘I am the Way, the Truth and the Life’- are there any exceptions?

De facto, none.

De jure, none. All those who are saved implicitly are saved through Jesus and the Church (CCC 846).

When the Augustinian Recollect priest says de facto everyone with no exception needs the Eucharist for salvation he is affirming the centuries old interpretation of Cantate Domino-just like St. Augustine.

If Fr. Marcos does not use the terms de facto-dejure (hypothetical) it would be confusing. It would be saying everyone needs the Eucharist except for…It would be saying yes and No. simultaneously.

There is no text in Vatican Council II which contradicts Cantate Domino or Ad Gentes 7 unless one mixes up de jure salvation for de facto salvation.

If one mistakenly says the baptism of desire refers to de facto salvation and contradicts Cantate Domino which also refers to de facto salvation, then something is wrong. It is in conflict with the Principle of Non Contradiction.

If one correctly infers that de jure baptism of desire does not contradict de facto Cantate Domino then it is rational. It also does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction.

So de facto everybody needs the Eucharist for salvation as Fr. Marcos Renacia says.

Outside the Church, outside the Eucharist, there is no salvation.

Photo Fr.Marcos offering Mass this week at the Augustinian Recollect church in Rome.

SUNDAY, DECEMBER 25, 2016

Happy Christmas anyway!

Yesterday I was a few minutes late for Mass. It is the same church I go for Mass every evening in Italian.When I entered !!!!- I couldn't believe it! This was the same Church?! Every evening there are three or four people there.On Sundays about 15 people. 

The church yesterday was packed with well dressed people. It was full  and there was no place to sit.It was the Sunday Christmas Mass being held on Saturday evening.

Most of these Catholics are in mortal sin for not attending Mass on Sundays.Yesterday they went up to receive the Eucharist.

How many of them could have been watching the usual television programs every day and here they were suddenly there for Mass.

Some of them were so distracted and were distracting others. I kept my eyes closed and concentrated on the Mass.

The liberal priest gave a politically correct homily. He spoke vaguely about mercy and criticised the former 'rules' and 'observations'. For all of them probably it was a message that rules and teachings of the Church were not important.No mortal sin and Hell. There is only the mercy of God.

At this Church they give the Eucharist to every one.Even if is someone in short pants or a lady who comes up for the Eucharist carrying her dogs the Eucharist is given to them.It is the new one world religion dogma that they are following.It is the instructions of the Vicariate whose leadership is in contact with the liberal-Left rabbis in Rome.

This is the religious community of the Agostinian Recollect Fathers, young priests from all over the world who are studying in Rome.

Whatever they say in the homilies are conditioned by the political requirements of these times. So it is not the Gospel of Jesus that they preach any more, since they are not allowed to preach it by the Vatican and our pro-Left popes.

Then today morning, Christmas day I went for Mass at the SSPX chapel. I was tired and during the homily by Fr. Aquila I went to sleep literally.There was one person taping his homily and a lady  was recording it on her cell phone. There were few people there. It was like the weekly Mass in Italian at the Augustinian Recollect church.

So many times  I have spoke to this SSPX priest and to the others about what I write here.I have sent them reports.However they cannot rock the boat and preach the Gospel. They have to protect their reputation and property. Today even the SSPX no more speaks about the need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.They want canonical status.

When this young SSPX priest had a catechesis for adults on the topic of the Church, he interpreted salvation just like Cardinal Ratzinger and the liberals. Since Archbishop Lefebvre accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. So in his catechesis he interpreted the Letter and Vatican Council II with the false premise. The conclusion was a rupture with Tradition. Cardinal Ratzinger accepted the new conclusion and  Archbishop Lefebvre did not and was excommunicated.

The SSPX priests in Italy still act as if they do not have a clue as to what happened doctrine-wise with a false premise and conclusion.Or may be they know about it but maintain their position, since it is a political position of the SSPX and not a doctrinal one.Doctinally the SSPX is repeating the same heresy as the others. They can choose to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with Feneeyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus but the SSPX priest, like the Augistinian Recollect Fathers would not like to create trouble for them self with the secular authorities supported by the Vatican.

So  finally at Mass we just have the worship, the prayers, the liturgy, the presence of Jesus and his un-bloody Sacrifice renacted.I  offer this to God  and so does my Guardian Angel, during the Novus Ordo and Latin Mass.

At the Italian Mass yesterday evening the Catholics did not know the faith and the priests were not affirming. It was like a general heresy or apostasy.At the SSPX chapel today morning the priest does not affirm the dogma EENS(without the false premise), he interprets Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS and  he re- interpets the Catechism of St.Pius X as a rupture with EENS.It is so much of confusion since he has accepted the  new ecclesiology  with known baptism of desire etc and was also holding to tradition when possible, with the old ecclesiology of the pre-Council of Trent times.

It is like Cardinal Raymond Burke, 'New Catholic' at the blog Rorate Caeili and Joseph Shaw Chairman of the Latin Mass Society in England offering/attending the Latin Mass denying the dogma EENS ( with their exceptions), while I do not do so at the Latin Mass.

They reject Vatican Council II as a break with EENS while I do not do so at the Latin Mass.

So we are all attending the Traditional Latin Mass but our ecclesiology is different.

Then there are the traditionalist Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, at the St.Benedict Centers in the USA. They affirm EENS as a I do. So they are traditionalists who have an ecclesiology which is different from that of Cardinal Raymond Burke and the members of the Latin Mass societies.

But for them Vatican Council II is a rupture with the Feeneyite intepretation of the dogma EENS. They use the false premise too. So they are in agreement with Cardinal Burke and the others here but are not in the same camp with me.I affirm Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS( Feneyite).Since I do not use the irrational premise as they all do.

It is the same Mass on Christmas day and we are all Catholics but because of the confusion created by the two popes and the present magisterium, theologically things are a mess.I hope things will be better next year.I hope we will have unity in Catholic doctrine among the traditionalists and then among the other Catholics.

Happy Christmas, anyway!

-Lionel Andrades

SUNDAY, APRIL 16, 2023

Restrictions on reading the Bible at church in Rome

 

Muslim police have been demanding that Catholics who interpret Vatican Council II rationally not be allowed to do the Readings in church. Since the Council would then be in harmony with the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).So these Catholics, who accept the Council but interpret it without the false premise and inference, are not allowed to do the First and Second Reading at Holy Mass in Italian.The restrictions are there at the church San Ildefonso e Tomasso di Villanova, Via Sistina, Rome since lay Muslim activists are a threat.They are offended when the Catholic Church in Vatican Council II (AG 7) says all need faith and the baptism of water for salvation ( to avoid Hell).

On Easter Sunday, the Readings were done by two religious sisters. They were Sister Mirella, the Superior of the Institute of Our Lady of Lourdes and a young Dominican sister.

Over the last few years there have been threats from different groups of Muslim activists and the regular evening Mass at the church has been cancelled.

Usually, there are two lay men who do the Readings in this church.

Sister Mirella and the Sisters of Our Lady of Lourdes, who have a convent and hostel for guests, down the road, overlooking Piazza Spagna, know that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (AG 7/LG 14, CCC 845,846 etc) are in harmony with the Athanasius Creed and the past Councils (1215 and 1442).So the Catholic Church in the past and present teaches that there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church. She is also aware of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, being only hypothetical cases. They are not visible examples of salvation outside the Church. So they do not contradict the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) or Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14.

So for her Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are saying that other religions are not paths to salvation.There is exclusive salvation in only Jesus and in the Catholic Church, His Mystical Body. This is also the view of the lay Catholics, including relatives of one of the lay lectors, at this Augustinian Recollect church in central Rome, which is a three minute walk to the famous Capuchin Crypt, follow the Catechism of the the Catholic Church.

For now, lay Catholics , who openly affirm in public, the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 ( outside the Church there is no salvation) which is based on John 3:5 and Mark 16:16 in the Bible are restricted. They are not allowed to read the Bible, in the Mass Readings.This is being done to appease non Catholic activists and the police.  - Lionel Andrades

MARCH 20, 2023

An Augustinian Recollect priest at the church Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, via Sistina, Rome, yesterday agreed with me. He said Vatican Council II has a continuity with the past.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/an-augustinian-recollect-priest-at.html

MARCH 20, 2023

Un sacerdote Agostiniano Recolletto della chiesa di Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, via Sistina, Roma, ieri sono era in accordo con me. Ha detto che il Concilio Vaticano II ha una continuità con il passato.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/un-sacerdote-agostiniano-recolletto.html

 MARCH 20, 2023

Un prêtre Augustin Récollet de l'église Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, via Sistina, Rome, était hier d'accord avec moi. Il a dit que le Concile Vatican II a une continuité avec le passé

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/un-pretre-augustin-recollet-de-leglise.html

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MARCH 11, 2023

Sister Eli Benatti

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/sister-eli-benatti.html

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