Thursday, February 27, 2014

Pope Francis received 10,000 people from the Neocatechumenal Way in audience : 40 new "missio ad gentes" teams for Asia

 
Argüello has participated as an Auditor in various Synods in the past several years, the most recent being the Synod on the Eucharist (2005), the Synod on “the Word of God in the life and mission of the Church” (2008) and the Synod on “The New Evangelization for the transmission of the Christian faith” in 2012.
On February 1, Pope Francis received 10,000 people from the Neocatechumenal Way in audience at Paul VI Hall. Due to lack of time, the Holy Father was only able to send out 12 of the 40 new "missio ad gentes" teams destined for Asia. Two weeks later, on February 14th, the Holy Father received Argüello, along with Carmen Hernández and Fr. Mario Pezzi, and the presbyters responsible for the other 28 missio ad gentes who will be working in the evangelization of Europe and the United States. (J.A.E.)
 
 


January 26, 2014
Padre Pio Prayer Groups, Neo Catechumenal Way, Charismatic Renewal, all the religious communities, Diocesan priests...
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/02/neo-catechumenal-way-catechesis-must.html#links
June 6, 2012
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/06/cardinal-raymond-burke-and-franscican.html#links


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Archbishop of Wilmington to share a lie ?

 They sat together at a table in the mosque near Newark, and talked about ways they might bring together ordinary people from both communities of faith to learn more about each other.(1)
Catholic Diocese of Wilmington

Will  the Most  Reverend W. Francis Malooly, D.D the Archbishop of Wilmington,USA  in this dialogue tell the Muslims that the Catholic Church interprets Vatican Council II with the YELLOW or RED column ?

One response is a lie.

The Delaware Catholics could tell the Muslims that the Catholic Church teaches in Vatican Council II that they need faith and baptism to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.There are no known exceptions in Delaware.
This would be the teaching of the Catholic Church according to Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7).

Or the Delware Catholics could tell the Muslims there that they do not need to convert since there are known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 in Vatican Council II (LG 16 etc) They know of cases in Delaware of Muslims who are now saved in Heaven without faith and baptism.
This would be a lie.

If there are exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 and the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus then Bishop Malooly is using the red  values.





implicit                       or explicit for us.
hypothetical              or known in reality.
invisible                    or visible in the flesh.
dejure ( in principle) or defacto (in fact).
subjective                 or objective.
 
 
The use of the red column to interpret Vatican Council II results in  misinformation.It is likely that the teenagers and parents who will be visiting the local mosque will be there with misinformation about the Catholic Church, especially Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

If they interpret Vatican Council II with the yellow values Vatican Council II would be traditional on the issue of other religions, including Islam. -Lionel Andrades

1.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2014/02/24/delawares-catholic-islamic-leaders-meet/5795367/
http://www.cdow.org/

Gospel Reading today on 'the worm that dieth not' and the fire which is never extinguished.

Today morning at Holy Mass in Italian  what came across to me  as I read the First Reading at the lectern was on how riches and attachments can separate us from God and lead us to eternal death.
 
The Gospel Reading specifically refers to a Hell with fire where the worm, the human body and life as it is known there does not end. The  human body and those of  reptiles and worms do not corrupt and perish as on earth and the fire which burns them is never put out.
 
We will have our spiritual body there which will be similar to the one on earth.We will be able to feel sensations. There will be the ability to think and reason and feel emotions.We will not be able to have some emotions which are normal and permitted on earth.The heat of the fire is always there and the spiritual body will never corrupt for all eternity.
 
Others with their spiritual body enjoy the love of God, the peace and beauty of Heaven.There too we will have sensations and emotions and be able to think and reason. We will still be able to love, unlike as in Hell.
 
All this is not part of homilies in churches here.
 
They will not talk about this reality for example at the Church of Santa Suzzana in Rome.The Paulist Fathers at this church for the liberal American community support  the Left, whose values are pro-Satan.
I have spoken to some of the lay people associated with the Church. There is no mortal sin and Hell for them.
 
 Since they believe there are some addictions and attachments which they can never ever be free of. The First Reading today refers to the rich and their attachments.
 
ST.TERESA OF AVILA'S VISION OF HELL


Some considerable time after our Lord had bestowed upon me the graces I have been describing, and others also of a higher nature, I was one day in prayer when I found myself in a moment, without knowing how, plunged apparently into hell. I understood that it was our Lord's will I should see the place which the devils kept in readiness for me, and which I had deserved by my sins . It was but a moment, but it seems to me impossible I should ever forget it, even if I were to live many years.

The entrance seemed to be by a long narrow pass, like a furnace, very low, dark, and close. The ground seemed to be saturated with water, mere mud, exceedingly foul, sending forth pestilential odors, and covered with loathsome vermin. At the end was a hollow place in the wall, like a closet, and in that I saw myself confined. All this was even pleasant to behold in comparison with what I felt there. There is no exaggeration in what I am saying.
But as to what I then felt, I do not know where to begin, if I were to describe it; it is utterly inexplicable. I felt a fire in my soul. I cannot see how it is possible to describe it. My bodily sufferings were unendurable. I have undergone most painful sufferings in this life, and, as the physicians say, the greatest that can be borne, such as the contraction of my sinews when I was paralyzed, without speaking of others of different kinds, yea, even those of which I have also spoken, inflicted on me by Satan; yet all these were as nothing in comparison with what I felt then, especially when I saw that there would be no intermission, nor any end to them.

These sufferings were nothing in comparison with the anguish of my soul, a sense of oppression, of stifling, and of pain so keen, accompanied by so hopeless and cruel an infliction, that I know not how to speak of it. If I said that the soul is continually being torn from the body it would be nothing,--for that implies the destruction of life by the hands of another; but here it is the soul itself that is tearing itself in pieces. I cannot describe that inward fire or that despair, surpassing all torments and all pain. I did not see who it was that tormented me, but I felt myself on fire, and torn to pieces, as it seemed to me; and, I repeat it, this inward fire and despair are the greatest torments of all.

Left in that pestilential place, and utterly without the power to hope for comfort, I could neither sit nor lie down: there was no room. I was placed as it were in a hole in the wall; and those walls, terrible to look on of themselves, hemmed me in on every side. I could not breathe. There was no light, but all was thick darkness. I do not understand how it is; though there was no light, yet everything that can give pain by being seen was visible.

Our Lord at that time would not let me see more of hell. Afterwards I had another most fearful vision, in which I saw the punishment of certain sins. They were most horrible to look at; but, because I felt none of the pain, my terror was not so great. In the former vision our Lord made me really feel those torments, and that anguish of spirit, just as if I had been suffering them in the body there. I know not how it was, but I understood distinctly that it was a great mercy that our Lord would have me see with mine own eyes the very place from which His compassion saved me. I have listened to people speaking of these things, and I have at other times dwelt on the various torments of hell, though not often, because my soul made no progress by the way of fear; and I have read of the diverse tortures, and how the devils tear the flesh with red-hot pincers. But all is as nothing before this; it is a wholly different matter. In short, the one is a reality, the other a picture; and all burning here in this life is as nothing in comparison with the fire that is there.
 
 
 
 
 
I was so terrified by that vision,--and that terror is on me even now while I am writing,--that though it took place nearly six years ago, the natural warmth of my body is chilled by fear even now when I think of it. And so, amid all the pain and suffering which I may have had to bear, I remember no time in which I do not think that all we have to suffer in this world is as nothing. It seems to me that we complain without reason. I repeat it, this vision was one of the grandest mercies of our Lord. It has been to me of the greatest service, because it has destroyed my fear of trouble and of the contradiction of the world, and because it has made me strong enough to bear up against them, and to give thanks to our Lord, who has been my Deliverer, as it now seems to me, from such fearful and everlasting pains.

Ever since that time, as I was saying, everything seems endurable in comparison with one instant of suffering such as those I had then to bear in hell. I am filled with fear when I see that, after frequently reading books which describe in some manner the pains of hell, I was not afraid of them, nor made any account of them. Where was I? How could I possibly take any pleasure in those things which led me directly to so dreadful a place? Blessed for ever be Thou, O my God! and, oh, how manifest is it that Thou didst love me much more than I did love Thee! How often, O Lord, didst Thou save me from that fearful prison! and how I used to get back to it contrary to Thy will.

It was that vision that filled me with the very great distress which I feel at the sight of so many lost souls, especially of the Lutherans,--for they were once members of the Church by baptism,--and also gave me the most vehement desires for the salvation of souls; for certainly I believe that, to save even one from those overwhelming torments, I would most willingly endure many deaths. If here on earth we see one whom we specially love in great trouble or pain, our very nature seems to bid us compassionate him; and if those pains be great, we are troubled ourselves. What, then, must it be to see a soul in danger of pain, the most grievous of all pains, for ever? Who can endure it? It is a thought no heart can bear without great anguish. Here we know that pain ends with life at last, and that there are limits to it; yet the sight of it moves our compassion so greatly. That other pain has no ending; and I know not how we can be calm, when we see Satan carry so many souls daily away.

http://catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/St.%20Teresa%20of%20Avila%20combat%20with%20Satan.html

 
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There must have been a leftist storm over Archbold's report


 
The National Catholic Register (NCR)  has still pulled down the report asking Pope Francis to grant the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) canonical status. The  'liberals' must have protested.

The NCR columnist Patrick Archbald like other apologists on the other hand has not seen that the real issue is not Vatican Council II but interpreting the Council with or without a false premise: taking it for granted that we can physically see the dead in Heaven or as is commonly known, we cannot see them with the naked eye.

The real issue is whether your using the yellow or red column below. Since there can only be two basic interpretations of the Council, from them other interpretations follow. There can only be one rational and one bizarre interpretation of the Council.

Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus depending on the colour you choose, YELLOW  or RED.




implicit                         or     explicit for us.
hypothetical                or     known in reality.
invisible                       or     visible in the flesh.
dejure ( in principle)   or      defacto (in fact).
subjective                    or      objective.


 Imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) contradicts the dogma on exclusive salvation.( RED).
Imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) does not contradict the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.(YELLOW).

So the Catholic Church's teaching on ecumenism has changed. Now there are is known salvation outside the visible limits of the Catholic Church.(RED column  interpretation).

So the Catholic Church's teaching on ecumenism has not changed. Now as before there is no  known,visible in the flesh salvation for us in 2014, outside the visible limits of the Catholic Church.( Interpretation with the values in the YELLOW column).

Apologists Archbald, Louis Verrechio, Michael Voris for example are using the irrational interpretation. This is pleasing to the Left. This is also the interpretation of NCR now under the management of EWTN, which is under the control of the Jewish Left.
 
The SSPX could affirm Vatican Council II with the yellow column and it would be a rational interpretation.EWTN and the National Catholic Register are using the irrational red column interpretation of Vatican Council. It is the only one which the SSPX knows of and so rejects it since it is a break with Tradition.Any Church document which uses an irrational premise will result in a break with Tradition and reason.
 
The SSPX can still affirm Vatican Council II with the rational yellow column, even if they choose not to enter the Catholic Church with canonical status.
 
The apologists and the SSPX must be first aware of the error being made in doctrine. Then they could expect the Vatican Curia to correct the error and make the changes.

The SSPX has a right to canonical status since Vatican Council II interpreted with the YELLOW values is traditional. The NCR and EWTN are using an irrational, non traditional interpretation of the Council. The Jewish Left media refer to it as the 'reforms' of Vatican Council II. Liberal professors call it a 'developent of doctrine'. Upon this error the International Theological Commission has speculated that there is a 'theology of religions'.There could be no 'new theology' without the use of the RED column.



The National Catholic Register is not interpreting the Catechism rationally. For them CCC 846 contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. CCC 846 says all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church. This means for example there are those saved with the baptism of desire and others with the baptism of water. The NCR and EWTN Management  assume that those saved with the baptism of desire are physically visible to us.Since they are visible to the editorial staff of the NCR there are known  exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation. They are using the RED column in the interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. CCC 846 would also contradict itself when it cites AD 7, all need to enter the Church as through a door. For EWTN-NCR some people in 2014, whom they know and can name, do not need to do so.
-Lionel Andrades
http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2014/02/pope-francis-and-sspx-opportunity.html
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/archbold/



His concluding paragraphs:
With the breakdown of discussion between the Holy See and the Society of St. Pius X at the end of the previous pontificate, the public mood during this first year of the current pontificate, and other internal events, traditional Catholics, both inside and outside the Church, have felt increasingly marginalized. Whether fair or true, I say without fear of contradiction that this is a prevailing sentiment.

This perception of marginalization has manifested itself in increasingly strident and frankly disrespectful rhetoric on the part of some traditionalists and their leaders.

I have great concern that without the all the generosity that faith allows by the leaders of the Church, that this separation, this wound on the Church, will become permanent. In fact, without such generosity, I fully expect it. Such permanent separation and feeling of marginalization will likely separate more souls than just those currently associated with the SSPX.

I have also come to believe that Pope Francis' is exactly the right Pope to do it. In his address to the evangelicals, he makes clear his real concern for unity.

So here is what I am asking. I ask the Pope to apply that wide generosity to the SSPX and to normalize relations and their standing within the Church. I am asking the Pope to do this even without the total agreement on the Second Vatican Council. Whatever their disagreements, surely this can be worked out over time with the SSPX firmly implanted in the Church. I think that the Church needs to be more generous toward unity than to insist upon dogmatic adherence to the interpretation of a non-dogmatic council. The issues are real, but they must be worked out with our brothers at home and not with a locked door.

Further, Pope Francis' commitment to the aims of the Second Vatican Council is unquestioned. Were he to be generous in such a way, nobody would ever interpret it to be a rejection of the Council. How could it be? This perception may not have been the case in the last pontificate. Pope Francis is uniquely suited to this magnanimous moment.

I believe this generosity is warranted and standard practice in the Church. We do not insist on religious orders that may have strayed even further in the other direction sign a copy of Pascendi Dominici Gregis before they can be called Catholic again. So please let us not insist on the corollary for the SSPX. Must we insist on more for a group that doctrinally would not have raised an eyebrow a mere fifty years ago? I pray not.

Give them canonical status and organizational structure that will protect them. Bring them home, for their sake and the sake of countless other souls. I truly believe that such generosity will be repaid seven-fold. Pope Benedict has done so much of the heavy lifting already, all that is required is just a little more.

Please Holy Father, let us not let this moment pass and this rift grow into a chasm. Make this generous offer and save the Church from further division. Do this so that none of your successors will ever say, "If only we had done more."-Rorate Caeili

Cathedral of Cordoba to be stolen from Church and nationalized?

February 26, 2014 Posted by tantamergo
The much fought over Cathedral of Cordoba – first a church, then cathedral, then mosque, and, since the great victory in 1236 of San Fernando III, a cathedral again – is under threat of being stripped from the Church yet again, this time by the secularist, socialist government of Andalusia. The threat may be minor for now – or not – but the government has circulated a petition eagerly signed by tens of thousands of muslims, calling for the cathedral to be taken from the Church and handed over to the state, to serve secular and ecumenical interests:
Cathedral-aerial-with-christian-mods(Madrid) attacks against the Catholic Church have many faces. A recent venture appears in the style of the French Revolution as a snappy “joke”. In the Spanish Andalusia Church opponents want to expropriate the famous Catholic cathedral of Cordoba and “nationalize” it. The southern Spanish city’s cathedral is unique for architectural reasons. It has had an eventful history. Before the diocesan church was established in 1236, it was used for several centuries an Islamic mosque, to be exact, the main mosque of the emirate and caliphate of Cordoba.
The Government of the Comunidad Autonoma de Analuciacan has legally examined whether there is a possibility of expropriation of the cathedral. The initiators of the expropriation action argue that the cathedral as a unique piece of architecture is a “World Heritage Site”. But as such, it can not be owned by a religious community, and certainly not the Catholic Church, but must have its ownership transferred to the public. [This isn't right, I don't think. Santiago de Compostella is a World Heritage Site but it is still operated, and I believe owned, by the Church. I don't know if this false assumption is being made by the article, or the Andalusian government. Or, I could be wrong.] Modern robber barons in the name of the State, have a lot of experience in which revolutionaries and their epigones of all ages. Andalusia has been governed by a Leftist majority since the return to democracy. The provincial government originates without exception since 1982 from the ranks of the Socialist Party (PSOE).
A few years ago the call came to convert the Cathedral in deference to the Muslims to a place of dinterfaith worship. A claim, which was rejected by the Catholic Church. Therefore, the new venture aims to profanation and conversion of the church into a museum.
In their anti-clerical urge Spanish secularists making themselves spokesmen for Islamic interests under the heading “multiculturalism”. The fact that the Cathedral was previously a mosque, will be brought largely into play, that a non-denominational solution had to be sought by the state for the church. A secular group initiated two weeks with an Internet petition, seeking the expropriation of the Cathedral. They will rob, nationalize and profane the Catholic Church. The Cathedral of Cordoba should be made into a museum and become a kind of second Hagia Sophia in Istanbul. [Except, the Turks are going to turn Sancte Sophia back into a mosque. Some time back, muslims and secular interests in Spain advocated for the Church/Archdiocese to voluntary relinquish the Cathedral for muslim services. The Archdiocese politely said no. But secularists rarely take no for an answer, at least for very long]
The petition was signed by 88,000 people. ”A strange alliance” as a spokesman for the Committee for the Protection of the cathedral said. It was initiated by the petition of the Spanish Left, and “free-thinkers”, but the majority of the signatures came from Muslims. Muslim groups and individuals have taken the ball and immediately mobilized for signing.
The petition has no legal relevance in itself. However, it was also signed by Maria Isabel Ambrosio, the competent Socialist government representative for the province of Cordoba. Ambrosio also that gave a legal opinion in order to seek ways in which the cathedral could be expropriated and nationalized. [And turned into an indifferentist, secularist multi-culti shrine]
Against the Socialist expropriation a resistance is planning to upset it. A few days ago they started collecting signatures for a petition on Internet. [Sign the petition! It's in Spanish, but just put in your first and last name and e-mail (correa electronica)] In it, the government of Andalusia is asked to take care of the real problems of the Andalusians, “instead of thinking about how to rob the Cathedral of Cordoba and expropriate.”
There is much more interesting history of the Cathedral at Eponymous Flower, go over and check it out.
As our culture becomes decreasingly Christian and increasingly sexular and pagan, we can expect more and more of these kinds of acts. I have read that in Europe the Church, once one of the dominant cultural players, receiving some deference even from Her enemies, is today largely discounted as an old relic. Or a relic of old people. Yet another fruit we have harvested of aggiornamento, listening and even accepting the “wisdom” of the world over the past 5 decades!
Cordoba_cathedral
http://veneremurcernui.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/cathedral-of-cordoba-to-be-stolen-from-church-and-nationalized/