Wednesday, August 28, 2019

Bradley Eli, M.Div., Ma.Th interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise to create a non traditional and heretical conclusion and wants the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) to do the same

Bradley Eli

Bradley Eli, M.Div., Ma.Th interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise to create a non traditional and heretical conclusion and he wants the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) to do the same.

POPE FRANCIS: SSPX MUST ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II AND THE NEW MASS

by Bradley Eli, M.Div., Ma.Th.  •  ChurchMilitant.com  •  July 5, 2017    

Cdl. Müller: "On May 20, 2017, the Sovereign Pontiff approved these decisions"


ROME (ChurchMilitant.com) - Pope Francis is requiring that the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) accept an orthodox interpretation of Vatican Council II and the validity of the new Mass in order to be reunited with the Catholic Church.(Lionel: An orthodox interpretation of Vatican Council II is to interpret the Council without the irrational premise.1)
According to a French media report published July 1, the SSPX has received a letter from Cdl. Gerhard Müller, then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), reminding them that their reunion with the Catholic Church is based on the following conditions:
  1. Adherence to the profession of faith written under Pope St. John Paul II in 1988( Lionel : Bradley means a profession of faith with the false premise. So the result is modernism)
  2. Explicit acceptance of teachings from Vatican Council II and the post-conciliar period ( Bradley wants the SSPX to interpret Vatican Council with the false premise and so there is a rupture with Tradition 2)
  3. Recognition of the validity and legitimacy of the New Rite of Mass and sacraments
Cardinal Müller says these conditions were contained in the "Doctrinal Declaration" given to the SSPX last year during a meeting on June 13, 2016.(Lionel : He wanted the SSPX to interpret all magisterial documents with the false premise to create a rupture with the Creeds and Catechisms. ) He relates that these same conditions were presented by him with the "approval of the Sovereign Pontiff" to his congregation on May 10 and were approved at that time by a "unanimous decision of all members" of the CDF. He further notes the "Sovereign Pontiff approved these decisions" of the CDF on May 20.(Lionel: The CDF supports schism.) 3
By assuming there is known salvation outside the Church and possibilities known only to God are real people on earth saved outside the Churchthere are objective exceptions to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.So the dogmaextra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) has alleged objective exceptions. EENS is contradicted and made obsolete.
So by assuming there is known salvation outside the Church the past exclusivist ecclesiology is rejected. It is made obsolete.
By assuming there is known salvation outside the Church the ecumenism of return is rejected. Unitatitis Redintigratio 3 refers to known Christians saved outside the Church. The old ecumenism is rejected and now there is a new ecumenism.
By assuming there is known salvation outside the Church the Syllabus of Errors on exclusive salvation and an ecumenism of return is made obsolete.
By assuming there is known salvation outside the Church the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation becomes obsolete.
In this way Vatican Council II is also made a rupture with Tradition(EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).
But there is no known salvation outside the Church. So unknown cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 2 etc cannot be objective examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.4
Cardinal Müller's five-year term as head of the CDF ended July 2. On June 27, however, while still in charge of the CDF, he sent a letter with the papally approved terms of reunion to Bp. Bernard Fellay, head of the SSPX. The cardinal's letter has subsequently been circulated to all members of the group.

The SSPX has rejected similar terms of reunification with Rome in 2012 and in 2016.(Lionel : The CDF will not interpret Vatican Council II rationally.They want to create a rupture with Tradition ) 5 It is speculated that the group will also reject these conditions. The SSPX claims Vatican Council II is full of doctrinal errors, and these errors are being universally perpetuated by all subsequent popes and the Magisterium.(Lionel: From Pope Paul VI to Pope Francis, Vatican Council II is being interpreted with an irrational premise instead of without it.So there have to be doctrinal errors and heresy.It is official) On its website FAQ, SSPX questions many doctrinal points of Vatican Council II, many teachings of all the popes since then and even the Catechism of the Catholic Church. (Lionel: The CDF and the SSPX have to make the invisible-visible, implicit-explicit distinction when interpreting Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Otherwise the confusion among them will continue. But for political reasons the CDF will not interpret Vatican Council II rationally and Bradley Eli wants the SSPX to also interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and to accept it, like Church Militant TV).
The SSPX even claims the Novus Ordo Mass is intrinsically evil, and no one should ever go to a Mass unless it's in the extraordinary form of the Latin Rite — and only then if it's offered by an SSPX priest. This recent video on the society's website clearly states their long-held position in this regard.
These conditions of accepting an orthodox understanding of Vatican Council II(Lionel: With the false premise, I repeat, there can be no orthodox interpretation of Vatican Council II.The CDF knows this and they are not talking about it in public.)  and the validity of the ordinary form of the Roman rite are not new. In March 2009, Pope Benedict XVI wrote a letter, explaining the SSPX separation is doctrinal(Lionel: Pope Benedict means that the SSPX has to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise as he does.The SSPX and Bradley Eli are not talking about this) in nature and not merely canonical or legal, as the SSPX would have the public believe.(Lionel: The SSPX will be accepted canonically and legally, like Church Militant TV, when they interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise to create a rupture with EENS, the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.)
Benedict writes:
The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. (they have to interpret the Council with a false premise as Pope Benedict does)... In order to make this clear once again: Until the doctrinal questions are clarified,(Until they affirm Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and Creeds with the false premise to create a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed)  the society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers — even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty — do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church. ... In light of this situation, it is my intention henceforth to join the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei — the body which has been competent since 1988 for those communities and persons who, coming from the Society of Saint Pius X or from similar groups, wish to return to full communion with the Pope — to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. This will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially doctrinal in nature(they have to choose Vatican Council II(Cushingite) instead of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) ) and concern primarily the acceptance of the Second Vatican Council( with irrational Cushingism) and the post-conciliar magisterium of the Popes(interpreted only with Cushingism).

The Holy Father continues:

The Church's teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 — this must be quite clear to the society.(Lionel: Pope Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism; with the false premise instead of without it. Since then the Church is 'frozen' with a schism from the Left. It is official and accepted by the CDF and the present two popes)  But some of those who put themselves forward as great defenders of the council also need to be reminded that Vatican Council II embraces the entire doctrinal history of the Church.(Lionel: Vatican Council II with Cushingism does not embrace the entire doctrinal history of the Church. It is in schism on EENS with the popes before Pius XII ) Anyone who wishes to be obedient to the council has to accept the Faith professed over the centuries (Lionel: Over the centuries they were Feeneyite on EENS. They were Feeneyite on the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and beign saved in invincible ignorance(I.I). From Pope Paul VI the new faith is Cushingite on EENS and BOD, BOB and I.I .This is official heresy and schism. It is a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors, the Athanasius Creed etc) and cannot sever the roots from which the tree draws its life.(Lionel: We have schism from the Left which is trying to appear magisterial. It is not magisterial since the Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake and violate the principle of non Contradiction.The Holy Spirit will suddenly not create a gap between faith and reason, as Cushingism does.Cushingism creates the hermeneutic of rupture and Pope Francis and Pope Benedict have accepted it.)- Lionel Andrades

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Their false premise is:- 
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking  who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.


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So with the false premise there are objective exceptions to EENS etc:-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred  to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now  unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration  etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.

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AUGUST 28, 2019


SCHISM FROM THE LEFT CREATED WITH A FALSE PREMISE


AUGUST 28, 2019


We have a schism from the Left.It is silent, un-announced, seeping and creeping but there all the same


AUGUST 27, 2019


There is a schism in the Catholic Church today and it is from the Left and the liberals and the popes, cardinals and bishops must correct it


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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/08/there-is-schism-in-catholic-church.html

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Now we can correct the error. We know there is no known salvation outside the Church.Possibilities of salvation outside the Church are known only to God are not real people in 2019. So there are no exceptions in Vatican Council II or the Catechism of the Catholic Church to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.
Vatican Council II is traditional, irrespective of the presence of Fr. Karl Rahner  and the other liberals.
They failed to make the Council a rupture with Tradition.
They put all their money on Catholics assuming there is known salvation outside the Church.
The liberal theologian Fr. Joseph Ratzinger  did not give up even as Pope Benedict. In March 2016 (Avvenire) he asked,that when Vatican Council II says there is salvation outside the Church what is the purpose of mission. Since there is salvation outside the Church according to Vatican Council II, he said, EENS is no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.But there is salvation outside the Church only for him. 
LG 8, LG 16 etc are not just possibilities of salvation but real people, personally known non Catholics who are saved outside the Church, for him. 
This was the ruse the other liberals were also counting on to create a rupture with Tradition.Pope Paul VI was there to see that there was a continuituy with the error.
So today Pope Francis is in a schism, a rupture with the popes before Pius XII on EENS.He is in a rupture with the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. There is a break with  traditional mission based on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.He has to reject the Syllabus of Errors and the the Athanasius Creed since there are allegedly known examples of non Catholics saved outside the Church.There is a change in the understanding of  inter faith marriage and the traditional understanding of the Nicene and Apostles Creed etc.
There is a schism in the Catholic Church today and it is from the Left and the liberals and the popes, cardinals and bishops must correct it.


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The baptism of desire refers to visible cases for the sedevacantists otherwise how could BOD be an exception to Feeneyite EENS (Graphics)


























-Lionel Andrades


AUGUST 26, 2019


Novus Ordo Watch blog promotes new book supporting Cushingite baptism of desire

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/08/novus-ordo-watch-blog-promotes-new-book.html


AUGUST 25, 2019


Sedevacantists Sanborn and Cekada still interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism and not Feeneyism
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/08/sedevacantists-sanborn-and-cekada-still.html

 AUGUST 21, 2019


The Most Holy Family Monastery cannot change from visible to invisible BOD. Brother Peter Dimond repeats his mistake





Liberal interpretation of Vatican Council II is obsolete (Graphics)



























APRIL 3, 2018

Cardinal says Church teaching doesn’t put any specific person in Hell

Liberals still do not know that they can no more cite Vatican Council II to support 50 years of propaganda



-Lionel Andrades


C.Franck - Panis Angelicus

SCHISM FROM THE LEFT CREATED WITH A FALSE PREMISE

I have e-mailed these blog posts  to the editor of the National Catholic Reporter and their editorial staff.They are part of the schism from the Left.This is when they use a false premise, an irrationality, to interpret Vatican Council II.
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible.
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking  who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
So with the false premise there are objective exceptions to EENS etc:-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred  to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.


3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now  unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.


4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.


6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration  etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.







8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.



10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.

Without the false premise, and the schism with the popes before Pius XII, on EENS etc, Holy Mass in the vernacular, would have the same ecclesiology as Mass in Latin and Greek over the centuries.-Lionel Andrades









 










 MARCH 9, 2018


Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j made a mistake on March 1,2018 at the Press Conference on Placuito Deo and there is no denial from the Vatican : his error is objective and obvious.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-made-mistake.htm