Saturday, October 15, 2011

Vatican website for clergy promotes 'theology of religions', Kung and Knitter : claims Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for the same interpretation of the dogma as the popes and saints


The Vatican website for clergy (clerus.org) has made available a lengthy report in Italian by Father Alberto Sartori, President of the Commission for the Clergy in which he rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He claims the Magisterium condemned Fr.Leonard Feeney for his 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma.(1)

Fr.Sartori,the  Director of the Interdiocesan  Theological School of Formation,Italy  states that Pope Pius XII in Mystici Corporis said there can be non Catholics saved who are not members of the Catholic Church visibly and who could be saved with a baptism of desire.Don Sartori assumes that we know these cases explicitly and so they contradict the text of the dogma which indicates every one needs to be a visible member of the Church for salvation. He believes since these cases are explicit they also contradict Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston. Mystici Corporis or the Letter of the Holy Office does not claim that these are explicitly known cases. It has been known for centuries that these are implicit cases and so do not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Don Sartori who lives at the seminary in Vittorio Veneto(TV),  is an assistant parish priest in the diocese Farra di Soligo.He  states on the website that the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Cushing asked the Holy Office (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,Vatican) to intervene in the Fr.Leonard Feeney case. The Holy Office  affirmed the importance of the axiom he says and condemned the interpretation that rejected  those saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance.

The Italian priest does not mention that the Letter of the Holy Office referred to ‘the dogma’, ‘the infallilble teaching’.The text of the infallible teaching Cantate Domino,Council of Florence  does not mention the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance. Cantate Domino also indicates that all non Catholics in Boston are oriented to Hell unless they formally and visibly enter the Catholic Church. So the Letter of the Holy Office  supported the ‘rigorist’ interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney, the popes, Councils and saints.It was a criticism of Cardinal Cushing and the Jesuits who suggested that those saved in invincible ignorance and with the baptism of desire are explicitly known to us and so it contradicts the dogma and Fr.Leonard Feeney.
The Letter no where mentions that Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy or doctrine. Instead it indicates he was excommunicated for disobedience. How could he be excommunicated for saying the same thing as the Church Fathers, popes, Church Councils, saints and Vatican Council (LG 14,AG 7) ?.
Don Albert Sartori also claims Nostra Aetate has changed Church teaching on this subject. Yet we know that Nostra Aetate nowhere claims  that non Catholic religions are paths to salvation or that non Catholics are saved in general in their religion. Instead Lumen Gentium 14 and Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II  support Fr.Leonard Feeney. They indicate that all people need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation.This is the ordinary means of salvation and not invincible ignorance (LG 16) and the baptism of desire.Vatican Council II contradicts the dissenting theologians Hans Kung, Paul Knitter,Hicks, Jacques Dupuis and others whom the Vatican website has quoted.

Don Sartori’s article on the Vatican website also contradicts the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), Notification on Fr.Jacques Dupuis S.J. The CDF condemned the ‘theology of religions’ which is now being promoted by Don Sartori.
-Lionel Andrades
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2.2.3. La condanna dell'indifferentismo e del razionalismo



La sempre maggiore conoscenza della vastità del fenomeno religioso finì per porre il cristianesimo a fianco delle altre religioni.


Naturalmente il rischio del relativismo e dell'indifferentismo era a questo punto assai forte e contro di esso intervenne il magistero della chiesa cattolica. Da qui un certo ritorno alla posizione rigorista che si può cogliere con chiarezza prima nella condanna di Felicité de Lamennais ad opera di papa Gregorio XVI, poi dagli interventi papa Pio IX e infine nello schema preparatorio De ecclesia del Concilio Vaticano I.


Nell'enciclica Mystici corporis di papa Pio XII del 29 giugno 1943 viene messa a tema ancora una volta la questione dell'appartenenza alla chiesa che si realizza visibilmente solo grazie al battesimo, alla professione della vera fede e alla comunione ecclesiale. Centrale è qui l'affermazione che la chiesa corpo di Cristo si identifica con la chiesa cattolica romana. Quanti le sono ancora estranei, possono però essere ordinati ad essa, sia pure per un inconsapevole desiderio o voto e solo così poter sperare nella salvezza.


Infine un ulteriore pronunciamento magisteriale fu provocato dall'insegnamento di alcuni teologi americani che interpretavano l'assioma Extra ecclesiam nulla salus in senso rigorista, concedendo la salvezza solo ai battezzati cattolici e a quei catecumeni che avessero esplicitamente chiesto di entrare nella chiesa cattolica. Il vescovo di Boston, Mons. Cushing, chiese l'intervento del Sant' Ufficio, la cui risposta, pur riaffermando la dignità dogmatica dell'assioma, ne condannò l'interpretazione rigorista riprendendo le tesi dell'ignoranza invincibile e del voto implicito (Cfr. DS, 3866-3873. Tra questi il gesuita P. Leonard Feeney, non accettò le indicazioni del magistero e subì la scomunica il 4 febbraio 1953).

CATHOLIC CULTURE REJECTS VATICAN COUNCIL II, DENIES DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND ASKS FOR DONATIONS

To knowingly reject an infallible teaching is a mortal sin. Catholics who donate would not have to go for Confession?

The President of Catholic Culture Jeffrey Mirus will not affirm the dogma Cantate Domino ,Council of Florence and neither will be affirm Vatican Council II in accord with the dogma.(1)Catholic priests in Rome who offer the Novus Ordo Mass in Italian have endorsed Cantate Domino and Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents in agreement with the dogma(2).

Jeffrey Mirus is also contradicted by Catholic priests here who say there is no case of the baptism of desire known to us(3).To reject the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus claiming it is contradicted by those saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire is heresy.


He misinterprets Vatican Council II and misleads Catholics with the report on the Internet 'Tragic Errors of Fr.Leonard Feeney'.- Lionel Andrades
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FRIDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2011

CATHOLIC CULTURE PROVIDES A DEFINITION OF EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/catholic-culture-provides-definition-of.html

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 13, 2011
Catholic Culture suggests those who know about the Church and yet do not enter is the only ordinary means of salvation and these cases are known to us
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/catholic-culture-suggests-those-who.html

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 12, 2011
CATHOLIC CULTURE SUGGESTS THOSE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE OR THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE ARE EXPLICITLY KNOWN
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/catholic-culture-suggests-that-those.html

Trinity Communications of Jeff Mirus and Catholic Culture is a legal entity that is spreading falsehood about the Catholic Faith.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/09/trinity-communications-is-legal-entity.html

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Friday, October 7, 2011
LEGIONARY OF CHRIST PRIEST FR.RAFAEL PASCUAL AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/legionary-of-christ-priest-frrafael.html

TUESDAY, AUGUST 9, 2011
FR.TULLIO ROTONDO AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/frtullio-rotondo-affirms-cantate-domino.html#links

WEDNESDAY, JULY 20, 2011
CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS DE FIDE AND NOT CONTRADICTED BY VATICAN COUNCIL II- Fr. Nevus Marcello O.P
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/cantate-domino-council-of-florence-on.html

SATURDAY, JULY 16, 2011
BRAZILIAN PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/brazilian-priest-says-vatican-council.html#links


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Wednesday, August 10, 2011

CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/catholic-priests-in-rome-agree-with.html#links