Thursday, October 29, 2020

A Response to Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano's talk to the CIC



My comments with reference to  Vatican Council II in Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano's talk.

But with the Second Vatican Council, the darkness of this spurious entity came over the Church. Initially it obscured only a small part, but the darkness gradually increased. 

Lionel : True since Vatican Council II was being interpreted with the false premise and so the inference contradicted Tradition. No one corrected this error, not even Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. 

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Whoever then pointed to the sun, deducing that the moon would certainly obscure it, was accused of being a “prophet of doom,” with those forms of fanaticism and intemperance that arise from ignorance and prejudice. The case of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and a few other Prelates confirms, on the one hand, the far-sightedness of these shepherds and, on the other hand, the disjointed reaction of their adversaries; who, out of fear of losing power, used all their authority to deny the evidence and kept hidden their own true intentions.

Lionel : Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Prof. Roberto dei Mattei, Michael Davies, the Hildebrands and others at that time did not know.They did not know that the Council was being interpreted with a false premise. The error had come from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.They simply had to avoid the false premise.Then the Council would still be traditional in 1965.

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To continue the analogy: we can say that, in the sky of the Faith, an eclipse is a rare and extraordinary phenomenon. But to deny that, during the eclipse, darkness spreads – just because this does not happen under ordinary conditions – is not a sign of faith in the indefectibility of the Church, but rather an obstinate denial of the evidence, or bad faith. The Holy Church, according to Christ’s promises, will never be overwhelmed by the gates of hell, but that does not mean that she will not be – or is not already – overshadowed by her infernal forgery, that moon which, not by chance, we see under the feet of the Woman of the Revelation: “A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars” (Rev 12:1).

Lionel : It was bad faith which was promoted when the false premise was used.No one corrected it. 

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 With the Council, the Innovators erased the divine origin of the Church from their theological horizon, creating an entity of human origin similar to a philanthropic organization. The first consequence of this ontological subversion was the necessary denial of the fact that the Bride of Christ is notand cannot be, subject to change by those who exercise vicarious authority in the name of the Lord. She is neither the property of the Pope nor of the Bishops or theologians, and, as such, any attempt at “Aggiornamento” lowers her to the level of a company that, in order to garner profit, renews its own commercial offer, sells its leftovers stock, and follows the fashion of the moment. The Church, on the other hand, is a supernatural and divine reality: she adapts the way she preaches the Gospel to the nations, but she can never change the content of a single iota (Mt 5:18), nor deny her transcendent momentum by lowering herself to mere social service. On the opposite side, the anti-church proudly lays claims to the right to perform a paradigm shift not only by changing the way doctrine is expounded, but the doctrine itself[This is confirmed by the words of Massimo Fagggioli comment on the new Encyclical Fratelli Tutti:

Pope Francis’ pontificate is like a standard lifted up before Catholic integralists and those who equate material continuity and tradition: Catholic doctrine does not just develop. Sometimes it really changes: for example on [the] death penalty, [and] war.”[2]]

Lionel : Massimo Faggioli for once does not refer to Vatican Council II. I have e-mailed him often and showed him how the Council is traditional without the false premise.He agrees with me.

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The moon lies under the feet of the Woman who is above all mutability, above all earthly corruption, above the law of fate and the kingdom of the spirit of this world. And this is because that Woman, who is at once the image of Mary Most Holy and of the Church, is amicta sole, clothed with the Sun of Righteousness that is Christ, “exempted from all demonic power as she takes part in the mystery of the immutability of Christ” (Saint Ambrose). She remains unbruised if not in her militant kingdom, certainly in the suffering one in Purgatory and in the triumphant one in Paradise. St. Jerome, commenting on the words of Scripture, reminds us that “the gates of hell are sins and vices, especially the teachings of heretics.” We know therefore that even the “synthesis of all heresies” represented by Modernism and its updated conciliar version, can never definitively obscure the splendor of the Bride of Christ, but only for the brief period of the eclipse that Providence, in its infinite wisdom, has allowed, to draw from it a greater good.

Lionel : When the Lefebvrists interpret theoretical and invisible cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as visible and known cases to be exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) it is heresy. It is with this heresy that they interpret the baptism of desire in the Baltimore Catechism and invincible ignorance in the Catechism of Pope Pius X. So their modernism is not restricted to Vatican Council II.We have a case of traditionalists modernists. 

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4. THE SENSE OF INFERIORITY AND INADEQUACY

As I have written on other occasions, the revolutionary demands of the Nouvelle Théologie found fertile ground in the Council Fathers because of a serious inferiority complex vis-à-vis the world. There was a time, in the postwar period, when the revolution led by Freemasonry in the civil, political and cultural spheres, breached the Catholic élite, persuading it of its inadequacy in the face of an epochal challenge that is now inescapable. Instead of questioning themselves and their faith, this élite – bishops, theologians, intellectuals – recklessly attributed responsibility for the imminent failure of the Church to her rock-solid hierarchical structure, and to her monolithic doctrinal and moral teaching. Looking at the defeat of the European civilization that the Church had helped to form, the élite thought that the lack of agreement with the world was caused by the intransigence of the Papacy and the moral rigidity of priests not wanting to come to terms with the Zeitgeist, and “open up.” This ideological approach stems from the false assumption that, between the Church and the contemporary world, there can be an alliance, a consonance of intent, a friendship. Nothing could be further from the truth, since there can be no respite in the struggle between God and Satan, between Light and Darkness. “I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel” (Gen 3:15). This is an enmity willed by God Himself, which places Mary Most Holy – and the Church – as eternal enemies of the ancient serpent. The world has its own prince (Jn 12:31), who is the “enemy” (Mt 13:28), a “murderer from the beginning” (Jn 8:44) and a “liar” (Jn 8:44). Courting a pact of non-belligerence with the world means coming to terms with Satan. This overturns and perverts the very essence of the Church, whose mission is to convert as many souls to Christ for the greater glory of God, without ever laying down arms against those who want to attract them to themselves and to damnation.

[The Church’s sense of inferiority and failure before the world created the “perfect storm” for the revolution to take root in the Council Fathers and by extension in the Christian people, in whom obedience to the Hierarchy had been cultivated perhaps more than fidelity to the depositum fidei. Let me it be clear: obedience to the Sacred Pastors is certainly praiseworthy if the commands are legitimate. But obedience ceases to be a virtue and, in fact, becomes servility if it is an end in itself and if it contradicts the purpose to which it is ordained, namely Faith and Morals. We should add, that this sense of inferiority was introduced into the ecclesial body with displays of great theater, such as the removal of the tiara by Paul VI, the return of the Ottoman flagship banners conquered at Lepanto, the flaunted ecumenical embraces with the schismatic Athenagoras, the requests for forgiveness for the Crusades, the abolition of the Index, the Clergy’s focus on the poor in place to the alleged triumphalism of Pius XII. The coup de grâce of this attitude was codified in the Reformed Liturgy, which manifests its embarrassment of Catholic dogma by silencing it – and thus denying it indirectly. The ritual change engendered a doctrinal change, which led the faithful to believe that the Mass is a simple fraternal banquet and that the Most Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol of Christ’s presence among us.]

Lionel : Archbishop Vigano is still interpreting Vatican Council II with the false premise and this clouds his perspective. 

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5. “IDEM SENTIRE” OF REVOLUTION AND COUNCIL

The Council Fathers’ sense of inadequacy was only increased by the work of the Innovators, whose heretical ideas coincided with the demands of the world. A comparative analysis of modern thought confirms the idem sentire [same feeling or same mind] of the conspirators with every element of the revolutionary ideology:

[- the acceptance of the democratic principle as the legitimizing source of power, in place of the divine right of the Catholic Monarchy (including the Papacy);

Lionel : When the Council is interpreted without the false premise there is no rupture with Tradition, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King, with the non separation of Church and State.

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the creation and accumulation of organs of power, in place of personal responsibility and institutional hierarchy;

Lionel. This is not an issue when the Councl is interpreted rationally

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the erasure of the historical past, evaluated with today’s parameters, which fail to defend tradition and cultural heritage;

Lionel. Yes since the false premise has made the dogma EENS obsolete and so also the Syllabus of Errors etc.

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- the emphasis on the freedom of individuals and the weakening of the concept of responsibility and duty;

the continuous evolution of morality and ethics, thus deprived of their immutable nature and of any transcendent reference;

the presumed secular nature of the State, in place of the rightful submission of civil order to the Kingship of Jesus Christ and the ontological superiority of the Church’s mission over that of the temporal sphere;

Lionel : The Lefebvrists interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism, the New Theology. They use the false premise. So  when there is alleged known salvation outside the Church, for them, how can they affirm traditional Mission and the necessity of the Kingship of Jesus Christ ? They are liberals too.

They say they are not Feeneyites. In other words the baptism of desire is an objective exception to EENS for them. So there is known salvation outside the Church. They have doctrinal unity with the liberal modernists. 

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- the equality of religions not only before the State, but even as a general concept to which the Church must conform, against the objective and necessary defense of the Truth and the condemnation of error;

Lionel: Vatican Council II refers to the defacto equality of religions in a secular state. However in a Catholic Confessional State the Catholic Religion would be the priority.The ethos would be Catholic. Since it would be recognised that it would be necesary to believe in Jesus in the Catholic Church, to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.This was the thinking during the time of the Papal State.Non Catholics were free to follow their religion. 

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the false and blasphemous concept of the dignity of man as connatural to him, based on the denial of original sin and of the need for Redemption as a premise for pleasing God, meriting His Grace and attaining eternal beatitude;

- the undermining of the role of women, the contempt and a contempt for the privilege of motherhood;

- the primacy of matter over spirit;

the fideistic relationship with science[3], in the face of a ruthless criticism of religion on false scientific grounds.

All these principles, propagated by Freemasonry ideologues and New World Order supporters, coincide with the revolutionary ideas of the Council:

Lionel : The Masonic principles are helped only when the Council is interpreted with a false premise, instead of without it. This was not known to the conservatives of that time.It was not even known to Fr. Carlo Maria Vigano.

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the democratization of the Church began with Lumen Gentium and today it is realized in the Bergoglian synodal path;

Lionel; LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II are not exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church for me.However they are exceptions for Pope Francis, Archbishop Carlo Vigano and Bshop Athanasius Schneider. So the fault lies with them and not Lumen Gentium. We have two interpretations of Lumen Gentium. Theirs and mine.

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the creation and accumulation of organs of power has been achieved by delegating decision-making roles to Episcopal Conferences, Synods of Bishops, Commissions, Pastoral Councils, etc.;

Lionel: When Vatican Council II is interpreted without the false premise there is unity in doctrine and theology with the past. Then collegiality is not an issue. 

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the Church’s past and glorious traditions are judged according to the modern mentality and condemned in order to curry favor with the modern world;

the “freedom of the children of God” theorized by Vatican II has been established regardless of the moral duties of individuals who, according to the conciliar fairytales, are all saved regardless of their inner dispositions and the state of their soul;

the obfuscating of perennial moral references has led to the revised doctrine on capital punishment; and, with Amoris Laetitia, the admission of public adulterers to the Sacraments, cracking the sacramental edifice;

Lionel, : Cardinal Walter Kasper has said that if ecclesiology can be changed with Vatican Council then why cannot the Eucharist be given to the divorced and remarried. He was referring to Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise.

At the Amazon Synod Cardinal Hummell referred to Vatican Council II for the changes.

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the adoption of the concept of secularism has led to the abolition of a State Religion in Catholic nations. Encouraged by the Holy See and the Episcopate, this has led to a loss of religious identity and the recognition of rights of sects, as well as the approval of norms that violate natural and divine law;

Lionel : When Vatican Council II is interpreted with a false premise then there is alleged salvation outside the Church. So it was asked , 'why should there be traditional Mission ?Why do people need to enter the Church to be saved ? Why have Catholic nations?'Since there is salvation outside the Church according to Vatican Council II (Cushingite).

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the religious freedom theorized in Dignitatis Humanae is today brought to its logical and extreme consequences with the Declaration of Abu Dhabi and the latest Encyclical Fratelli Tutti, rendering the saving mission of the Church and the Incarnation itself obsolete;...

Lionel: Yes, Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise; with the New Theology, by traditionalists, sedevacantists and liberals make traditional salvation theology and ecclesiology obsolete. This is also the interpretation of the Council by Archbishop Carlo Vigano.He observes that Tradition is made obsolete and rejects Vatican Council II (Cushingite) correctly but does not know about Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).

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6. THE INSTRUMENTAL ROLE OF THE MODERATE CATHOLICS IN THE REVOLUTION

Some might say that the Council Fathers and Popes who presided over that assembly, did not realize the implications that their approval of the Vatican II documents would have for the future of the Church. If this were the case – i.e., if there had been any subsequent regrets in their hasty approval of heretical texts or texts close to heresy – it is difficult to understand why they were unable to put an immediate stop to abuses, correct errors, clarify misunderstandings and omissions. And above all, it is incomprehensible why the ecclesiastical Authority has been so ruthless against those who defended the Catholic Truth, and, at the same time, were so terribly accommodating to rebels and heretics. In any case, the responsibility for the conciliar crisis must be laid at the feet of the Authority which, even amid a thousand appeals to collegiality and pastoralism, has jealously guarded its prerogatives, exercising them only in one direction, that is, against the pusillus grex [little flockand never against the enemies of God and of the Church. The very rare exceptions, when a heretic theologian or revolutionary religious has been censored by the Holy Office, only offer tragic confirmation of a rule that has been enforced for decades; not to mention that many of them, in recent times, have been rehabilitated without any abjuration of their errors and even promoted to institutional positions in the Roman Curia or Pontifical Athenaeums.

Lionel : They were defending Catholic Truth unaware of the false premise. They simply were going back to Tradition and rejecting Vatican Council II (Cushingite ).

In the Middle Ages when there were Catholic armies they would all interprets the Creeds and Catechisms with Feeneyism only.Cushingism is an innovation in the Church. It is with Cushingism that the Masons and Archbishop Carlo Vigano interpret Council. The former welcome it and the Archbishop correctly rejects Vatican Council II(Cushingite) but does not accept Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).

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This is the reality, as it emerges from my analysis. However, we know that, in addition to the progressive wing of the Council and the traditional Catholic wing, there is a part of the Episcopate, the clergy, and the people that attempts to keep equal distance from what it considers two extremes. I am talking about the so-called “conservatives, that is, a centrist part of the ecclesial body that ends up “carrying water” for the Revolutionaries because, while rejecting their excesses, it shares the same principles. The error of the “conservatives” lies in giving a negative connotation to traditionalism and in placing it on the opposite side of progressivism. Their aurea mediocritas [via media] consists in arbitrarily placing themselves not between two vices, but between virtue and vice. They are the ones who criticize the excesses of the pachamama or of the most extreme of Bergoglio’s statements, but who do not tolerate the Council’s being questioned, let alone the intrinsic link between the conciliar cancer and the current metastasis. The correlation between political conservatism and religious conservatism consists in adopting the “center,” a synthesis between the “right” thesis and the “left” antithesis, according to the Hegelian approach so cherished by moderate supporters of the Council.

Lionel : All are interpreting Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.They are not aware of it. 

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[In the civil sphere, the deep state has managed political and social dissent by using organizations and movements that are only apparently opposition, but which are actually instrumental to maintaining power. Similarly, in the ecclesial sphere, the deep church uses the moderate “conservatives” to give an appearance of offering freedom to the faithful. The Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum itself, for example, while granting the celebration in the extraordinary form, demands saltem impliciter [at least implicitly] that we accept the Council and recognize the lawfulness of the reformed liturgy. This ploy prevents those who benefit from the Motu Proprio from raising any objection, or they risk the dissolution of the Ecclesia Dei communities. And it instills in the Christian people the dangerous idea that a good thing, in order to have legitimacy in the Church and society, must necessarily be accompanied by a bad thing or at least something less good. However, only a misguided mind would seek to afford equal rights to both good and evil. It matters little if one is personally in favor of good, when he recognizes the legitimacy of those who are in favor of evil. In this sense, the “freedom to choose” abortion theorized by democratic politicians finds its counterbalance in the no less aberrant “religious freedom” theorized by the Council, which today is stubbornly defended by the anti-church. If it is not permissible for a Catholic to support a politician who defends the right to abortion, it is even less permissible to approve a Prelate who defends the “freedom” of an individual to endanger his immortal soul by “choosing” to remain in mortal sin. This is not mercy; this is gross dereliction of spiritual duty before God in order to curry the favor and approval of Man.

Lionel : Yes. Summorum Pontificum permitted the Latin Mass to be offered only with the New Theology, the false interpretation of the Council. Pope Benedict did not differentiate between Vatican Council II Feeneyite and Cushingite, the Council interpreted without the false premise or with it.

It was understood that they had to only interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism.

Even at the Vatican-SSPX talks this point was ignored.Both sides were having a dialogue using Cushingism.

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7. “OPEN SOCIETY” AND “OPEN RELIGION”

This analysis would hardly be complete without a word on the neo-language so popular in the ecclesiastical sphere. Traditional Catholic vocabulary has been deliberately modified, in order to change the content it expresses. The same has happened in the liturgy and preaching, where the clarity of the Catholic exposition has been replaced by ambiguity or the implicit denial of dogmatic truth. The examples are endless. This phenomenon also goes back to Vatican II, which sought to develop “Catholic” versions of the slogans of the world. Nevertheless, I would like to emphasize that all those expressions that are borrowed from secularist lexicons are also part of the neo-language. Let us consider the Bergoglio’s insistence on the “outgoing church,” on openness as a positive value. Similarly, I quote now from Fratelli tutti:

A living and dynamic people, a people with a future, is one constantly open to a new synthesis through its ability to welcome differences” (Fratelli Tutti, 160).

Lionel: The outcome of the Council interpreted with Cushingism.

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The Church is a home with open doors” (ibid. 276).

We want to be a Church that serves, that leaves home and goes forth from its places of worship, goes forth from its sacristies, in order to accompany life, to sustain hope, to be the sign of unity… to build bridges, to break down walls, to sow seeds of reconciliation” (ibid.).

The similarity with the Open Society sought after by Soros’ globalist ideology is so striking as to almost constitute an Open Religion counterpoint to it.

And this Open Religion is perfectly in tune with the intentions of globalism. From the political meetings “for a New Humanism” blessed by the leaders of the Church to the participation of the progressive intelligentsia in green propaganda, it all chases after the mainstream thought, in the sad and grotesque attempt to please the world. The stark contrast with the words of the Apostle is clear: “Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ” (Gal. 1:10).

The Catholic Church lives under the gaze of God; she exists for His glory and for the salvation of souls. The anti-church lives under the gaze of the world, pandering to the blasphemous apotheosis of man and the damnation of souls. During the last session of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council, before all the Synod Fathers, these astonishing words of Paul VI resounded in the Vatican Basilica:

The religion of the God who became man has met the religion (for such it isof man who makes himself God. And what happened? Was there a clash, a battle, a condemnation? There could have been, but there was none. The old story of the Samaritan has been the model of the spirituality of the council. A feeling of boundless sympathy has permeated the whole of it. The attention of our council has been absorbed by the discovery of human needs (and these needs grow in proportion to the greatness which the son of the earth claims for himself). But we call upon those who term themselves modern humanists, and who have renounced the transcendent value of the highest realities, to give the council credit at least for one quality and to recognize our own new type of humanism: we, too, in fact, we more than any others, honor mankind.[4]

This sympathy [– in the etymological sense of συμπάϑεια, that is, participation in the sentiment of the other –] is the figure of the Council and of the new religion (for such it isof the anti-church. An anti-church born of the unclean union between the Church and the world, between the heavenly Jerusalem and hellish Babylon. Note well: the first time a Pontiff mentioned the “new humanism” was at the final session of Vatican II, and today we find it repeated as a mantra by those who consider it a perfect and coherent expression of the revolutionary mens [frame of mind] of the Council.[5]

Always in view of this communion of intent between the New World Order and the anti-church, we must remember the Global Compact on Education, a project designed by Bergoglio “to generate a change on a planetary scale, so that education is a creator of brotherhood, peace and justice. An even more urgent need in this time marked by the pandemic”.[6] Promoted in collaboration with the United Nations, this “process of formation in the relationship and culture of encounter also finds space and value in the common home with all creatures, since people, just as they are formed to the logic of communion and solidarity, are already working “to recover serene harmony with creation”, and to configure the world as “a space of true brotherhood” (Gaudium et Spes, 37).”[7] As can be seen, the ideological reference is always and only to Vatican II, because only from that moment on did the anti-church place man in the place of God, the creature in the place of the Creator. 

The “new humanism” obviously has an environmental and ecological frame into which are grafted both the Encyclical Laudato Sì and Green Theology – the “Church with an Amazonian face” of the 2019 Synod of Bishops, with its idolatrous worship of pachamama (mother earth) in the presence of the Roman Sanhedrin. The Church’s attitude during Covid-19 demonstrated, on the one hand, the hierarchy’s submission to the diktats of the State, in violation of the Libertas Ecclesiae, which the Pope should have firmly defended. It also put on display the denial of any supernatural meaning of the pandemic, replacing the righteous wrath of God offended by the countless sins of humanity and nations with a more disturbing and destructive fury of Nature, offended by the lack of respect for the environment. I would like to emphasize that attributing a personal identity to Nature, almost endowed with intellect and will, is a prelude to her divinization. We have already seen a sacrilegious prelude to this, under the very dome of St. Peter’s Basilica.

Lionel: The Global Compact on Education and New Humanism is based on Vatican Council II (Cushingite).It's foundation is , the Council interpreted irrationally.So a false  rupture is created with EENS, the Athanasius Creed etc.So this is acceptable for the Leftists. If the false premise was not used to interpret the Council, they would reject Vatican Council II.

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The bottom line is this: conformity on the part of the anti-church with the dominant ideology of the modern world establishes a real cooperation with powerful representatives of the deep state, starting with those working towards a “sustainable economy” involving Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Bill Gates, Jeffrey Sachs, John Elkann, Gunter Pauli.[8]

[It will be useful to remember that the sustainable economy also has implications for agriculture and the world of work in general. The deep state needs to secure low-cost labor through immigration, which at the same time contributes to the cancellation of the religious, cultural and linguistic identity of the nations involved. The deep church lends an ideological and pseudo-theological basis to this invasion plan, and at the same time guarantees a share in the lucrative business of hospitality. We can understand Bergoglio’s insistence on the theme of migrants, also reiterated in Fratelli Tutti: “A xenophobic mentality of closure and self-restraint is spreading” (ibid. 39. “Migrations will constitute a founding element of the future of the world” (ibid. 40). Bergoglio used the expression “founding element,” stating that it is not possible to hypothesize a future without migrations.]

Allow me a brief word about the political situation in the United States on the eve of the presidential election. Fratelli Tutti seems to be a form of Vatican endorsement of the Democratic candidate, in clear opposition to Donald Trump, and come a few days after Francis refused to grant audience to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Rome. This confirms which side the children of light are on, and who the children of darkness are.

8. THE IDEOLOGICAL FOUNDATIONS OF “BROTHERHOOD” 

The theme of brotherhood, an obsession for Bergoglio, finds its first formulation in Nostra Ætate and Dignitatis HumanaeThe latest Encyclical, Fratelli Tutti, is the manifesto of this Masonic vision, in which the cry Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité replaced the Gospel, for the sake of a unity among men that leaves out God. Note that the Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together signed in Abu Dhabi on February 4, 2019 was proudly defended by Bergoglio with these words:

From the Catholic point of view the document did not go one millimeter beyond the Second Vatican Council.

Cardinal Miguel Ayuso Guixot, President of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, comments in La Civiltà Cattolica:

[With the Council, the embankment gradually cracked and then broke: The river of dialogue has spread with the Council Declarations Nostra Ætate on the relationship between the Church and believers of other religions and Dignitatis Humanae on religious freedom, themes and documents that are closely linked to each other, and have allowed St. John Paul II to give life to meetings such as the World Day of Prayer for Peace in Assisi on October 27, 1986 and Benedict XVI, twenty-five years later, to make us live in the city of St. Francis the Day of Reflection, Dialogue and Prayer for Peace and Justice in the World – Pilgrims of Truth, Pilgrims of Peace. Therefore,] the Catholic Church’s commitment to interreligious dialogue, which opens the way to peace and fraternity, is part of her original mission and has its roots in the Council event.[9]

Once again, the cancer of Vatican II confirms that it is at the origin of Bergoglian metastasis. The fil rouge [common thread] that unites the Council with the cult of the pachamama also passes through Assisi, as my Brother Athanasius Schneider rightly pointed out in his recent speech.[10]

And speaking of the anti-church, Bishop Fulton Sheen describes the Antichrist: “Since his religion will be brotherhood without the paternity of God, he will deceive even the elect.[11] We seem to see the prophecy of the venerable American Archbishop coming true before our eyes.

It is no surprise, therefore, that the infamous Grand Lodge of Spain, after having warmly congratulated its paladin raised to the Throne, has once again paid homage to Bergoglio with these words:

[The great principle of this initiatory school has not changed in three centuries: the construction of a universal brotherhood where human beings call themselves brothers to each other beyond their specific beliefs, their ideologies, the color of their skin, their social extraction, their language, their culture or their nationality. This fraternal dream clashed with religious fundamentalism which, in the case of the Catholic Church, led to harsh texts condemning the tolerance of Freemasonry in the 19th century.Pope Francis’ latest encyclical shows how far the present Catholic Church is from its previous positions. In “Fratelli Tutti”, the pope embraced the Universal Brotherhood, the great principle of modern Freemasonry.[12]

The reaction of the Grande Oriente of Italy is not dissimilar:

These are the principles that Freemasonry has always pursued and guarded for the elevation of Humanity.”[13]

[Austen Ivereigh, the hagiographer of Bergoglio, confirms with satisfaction this interpretation that a Catholic would rightly consider at least disturbing.[14]]

I remember that in the masonic documents of the Alta Vendita, since the nineteenth century, an infiltration of Free Masonry into the Church was planned:

You, too, will fish some friends and lead them to the feet of the Apostolic See. You will have preached revolution in Tiara and Cope, proceeded under the cross and banner, a revolution that will need only a little help to set the quarters of the world on fire.”[15]

[9. THE SUBVERSION OF THE INDIVIDUAL AND SOCIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

Allow me to conclude this examination of the links between the Council and the present crisis by emphasizing a reversal that I consider extremely important and significant. I am referring the relationship of the individual layman and community of the faithful with God. While in the Church of Christ the relationship of the soul with the Lord is eminently personal even when it is conveyed by the Sacred Minister in the liturgical action, in the conciliar church the community and the group relationship prevails. Think of their insistence in wanting to make the Baptism of a child, or the wedding of a married couple, “an act of the community”; or the impossibility of receiving holy Communion individually outside of Mass, and of the common practice of approaching Communion during Mass even without the necessary conditions. All of this is sanctioned on the basis of a Protestantized concept of participation in the Eucharistic banquet, from which no guest is excluded. Under this understanding of community, the person loses his individuality, losing himself in the anonymous community of the celebration. So too, the relationship of the social body with God disappears in a personalism that eliminates the role of mediation of both the Church and the State. Individualization in the moral field enters into this as well, where the rights and preferences of the individual become grounds for the eradication of social morality. This is done in the name of an “inclusiveness” that legitimates every vice and moral aberration. Society – understood as the union of several individuals aimed at the pursuit of a common goal – is divided into a multiplicity of individuals, each of whom has his own purpose. This is the result of an ideological upheaval that deserves to be analyzed in depth, because of its implications both in the ecclesial and civil spheres. It is evident, however, that the first step of this revolution is to be found in the conciliar mens, beginning with the indoctrination of the Christian people constituted by the Reformed Liturgy, in which the individual merges into the assembly by depersonalizing himself, and the community devolves into a collection of individuals by losing their identity.]

Lionel :With Cushingism a Catholic does not have an identity. He loses it.

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10. CAUSE AND EFFECT

Philosophy teaches us that to a cause always corresponds a certain effect. We have seen that the actions carried out during Vatican II have had the desired effect, giving concrete form to that anthropological turning point which today has led to the apostasy of the anti-church and the eclipse of the true Church of Christ. We must therefore understand that, if we want to undo the harmful effects we see before us, it is necessary and indispensable to remove the factors that caused them. If this is our goal, it is clear that accepting – or even partially accepting – those revolutionary principles would make our efforts useless and counterproductive. We must therefore be clear about the objectives to be achieved, ordering our action to the goals. But we must all be aware that in this work of restoration no exceptions to the principles are possible, precisely because failure to share them would prevent any chance of success.

Therefore, let us put aside, once and for all, the vain distinctions concerning the presumed goodness of the Council, the betrayal of the will of the Synod Fathers, the letter and spirit of Vatican II, the magisterial weight (or lack thereof) of its acts, and the hermeneutic of continuity versus that of rupture. The anti-church has used the label “Ecumenical Council” to give authority and legal force to its revolutionary agenda, just as Bergoglio calls his political manifesto of allegiance to the New World Order an “encyclical letter.” The cunning of the enemy has isolated the healthy part of the Church, torn between having to recognize the subversive nature of the Council documents, thus having to exclude them from the Magisterial corpus, and having to deny reality by declaring them apodictically orthodox in order to safeguard the infallibility of the Magisterium. The Dubia represented a humiliation for those Princes of the Church, but without untying the doctrinal knots brought to the attention of the Roman Pontiff. Bergoglio does not respond, precisely because he does not want to deny or confirm the implied errors, thus exposing himself to the risk of being declared a heretic and losing the papacy. This is the same method used with the Council, where ambiguity and the use of imprecise terminology prevent the condemnation of the error that has been implied. But the jurist knows very well that, in addition to the blatant violation of the law, one can also commit a crime by circumventing it, using it for evil purposescontra legem fit, quod in fraudem legis fit. [what circumvents the law is against it.]

Lionel : The Dubia Cardinals were also interpreting Vatican Council II with the false premise. They were part of the problem.

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11. CONCLUSION

The only way to win this battle is to go back to doing what the Church has always done, and to stop doing what the anti-church asks of us today – that which the true Church has always condemned. Let us put Our Lord Jesus Christ, King and High Priest, back at the center of the life of the Church; and before that, at the center of the life of our communities, of our families, of ourselves. Let us restore the crown to Our Lady Mary Most Holy, Queen and Mother of the Church.

Lionel : The way to fight this battle is to simply avoid the false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.Then let things fall into place.This is the primary step.

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Let us return to celebrate the traditional Holy Liturgy worthily, and to pray with the words of the Saints, not with the ramblings of the modernists and heretics. Let us begin again to savor the writings of the Fathers of the Church and the Mystics, and to throw into the fire the works imbued with modernism and immanentist sentimentalism. Let us support, with prayer and material help, the many good priests who remain faithful to the true Faith, and withdraw all support from those who have come to terms with the world and its lies.

And above all – I ask you in the name of God! – let us abandon that sense of inferiority that our adversaries have accustomed us to accept: in the Lord’s war, they do not humiliate us (we certainly deserve every humiliation for our sins). No, they humiliate the Majesty of God and the Bride of the Immaculate Lamb. The Truth that we embrace does not come from us, but from God! Let Trutht be denied, accept that it must justify itself before the heresies and errors of the anti-church, is not an act of humility, but of cowardice and pusillanimity. Let us be inspired by the example of the Holy Maccabees Martyrs, before a new Antiochus who asks us to sacrifice to idols and to abandon the true God. Let us respond with their words, praying to the Lord: “So now, O Sovereign of the heavens, send a good angel to spread terror and trembling before us. By the might of your arm may these blasphemers who come against your holy people be struck down” (2 Mac 15:23).

Lionel : When Vatican Council II is interpreted without the false premise it is easier to be a martyr. -Lionel Andrades

Let me conclude my talk today with a personal memory. When I was Apostolic Nuncio in Nigeria, I learned about a magnificent popular tradition that came out from the terrible war in Biafra, and which continues to this day. I personally took part in it during a pastoral visit to the Archdiocese of Onitsha, and I was very impressed by it. This tradition – called “Block Rosary Children” – consists in gathering thousands of children (even very young ones) in each village or neighborhood for the recitation of the Holy Rosary to implore peace – each child holding a little piece of wood, like a mini altar, with an image of Our Lady and a small candle on it.

In the days leading up to November 3rd, I invite everyone to join in a Rosary Crusade: a sort of siege of Jericho, not with seven trumpets made of ram’s horns sounded by priests, but with the Hail Mary’s of the little ones and the innocent to bring down the walls of the deep state and of deep church

Let us join with little ones in a Block Rosary Children, imploring the Woman clothed with the Sun, that the Reign of Our Lady and Mother may be restored, and the eclipse that afflicts us shortened.

And may God bless these holy intentions.

+Carlo Maria Viganò

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October 26, 2020

Archbishop Viganò Addresses the Catholic Identity Conference 2020 (Francis & the New World Order)

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/5124-archbishop-vigano-addresses-the-catholic-identity-conference-2020-francis-the-new-world-order


If Archbishop Carlo Vigano would interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise the Left would sit up. Now its ho-hum, a bore for them. They know he interprets the Council, without the false premise, like they do. So there is a false rupture with the strict interpretation of EENS. He's a liberal on the Council like them. Their theology is the New Theology. They interpret Vatican Council II with the New Theology

 

If Archbishop Carlo Vigano would interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise the Left would sit up. Now its ho-hum, a bore for them. They know he interprets the Council, without the false premise, like they do. So there is a false rupture with the strict interpretation of EENS. He's a liberal on the Council like them. Their theology is the New Theology. They interpret Vatican Council II with the New Theology.. -Lionel Andrades

The Vatican publishing house (Libreria Editrice Vaticana) has published the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC).It has its foundation in a false interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949

 The Vatican publishing house (Libreria Editrice Vaticana)  has published the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC).It has its foundation in a false interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. CCC 846( Outside the Church there is no salvation) has the New Theology.It says all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church. It does not directly say all need to enter the Catholic Church with faith and baptism for salvation. CCC 846 accomodates the false premise .It  considers unknown and invisible cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as being objective and practical exceptions to EENS ( LOHO).It also considers  hypothetical and theoretical cases of LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, as being  examples of salvation outside the Church.They become exceptions to the traditional exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.

There are other books published by the Libreria Editrice Vaticana which also interpret Vatican Council II and the LOHO with the false premise.

I interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise. I accept the first part of LOHO and reject the second part.It  contradicts the first part and Tradition (Creeds and Catechisms).. -Lionel Andrades

It is important for Religious Superiors to know the difference between Vatican Council II interpreted with or without the false premise. A Catholic does not have to be a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II. One does not have to reject Vatican Council II to be a traditionalist.This was the mistake traditionalists made at Commachio-Ferrara, Italy, Fischer More College,the case of Fr. Vaughn Treco...

 It is important for Religious Superiors to know the difference between Vatican Council II interpreted with or without the false premise. A Catholic does not have to be a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II. One does not have to reject Vatican Council II to be a traditionalist.This was the mistake traditionalists made at Commachio-Ferrara, Italy, Fischer More College,the case of Fr. Vaughn Treco... -Lionel Andrades

Archbishop Carlo Vigano like Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre interprets Vatican Council II like the liberals.If we do not use the false premise, we can avoid their version of the Council

 Archbishop Carlo Vigano like Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre interprets Vatican Council II like the liberals.If we do not use the false premise, we can avoid their version of the Council. -Lionel Andrades

When Vigano criticizes Vatican Council II the liberals love it. Since it supports their false interpretation of the Council

 When Vigano criticizes Vatican Council II the liberals love it. Since it supports their false interpretation of the Council. -Lionel Andrades

Does any one remember what was the FIRST SECRET of Fatima ? Here's a clue

The Council can now be interpreted without the false premise and this is not being done by the disciples of Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira , Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop Thuc.

 

Cantalamessa, like so many other prelates, is a worthy son of the Second Vatican Council. Yet even those who deny the responsibility of Vatican II, cannot deny the existence of an unprecedented crisis of values, expressed in the loss of the concept of good and evil, in relativism, in the practical atheism under which humanity lives, and who, after ceasing to believe in God, is professing faith in idols like Mother Earth.- De Mattei: An appeal to the true elites against mediocrity 1

Yes even those who deny the responsibility of Vatican Council II, cannot deny the existence of an unprecedented crisis of values...

Lionel: The crisis in the Church because of Vatican Council II or after Vatican Council II is not denied.

It is being repeatedly pointed out that when the liberals and traditionalists use the common false premise there is a rejection of Tradition in the Church and society.

The Council can now be interpreted without the false premise and this is not being done by the disciples Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira  , Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop Thuc.

They can simply announce that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) which they affirm without exceptions.

But they will not do this for personal reasons. So they maintain the doctrinal and theological crisis in the Church. 

When they support the new salvation doctrines, with their silence, they can expect cultural values to also change. -Lionel Andrades




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