Friday, February 24, 2023

Do we interpret the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance like Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre or like Archbishop Thomas e Gullickson? Are we Feeneyite like Brother Thomas Augustine micm or Brother Andre Marie micm? Are we liberal and political apologists like Scott Hahn or rational and traditional apologists like John Martignoni.

 

Rorate Caeili’s interpretation of Vatican Council II is approved by the liberals. Don Pietro Leone’s book on Vatican Council II will be allowed to be published by the Masons. It is in the same line as those written by Roberto dei Mattei, Christopher Ferrara and Peter Kwasniewski. All approved by the Left.

Kwasniewski is on their approved-list and he is allowed to speak at conferences. Like them he interprets the Council as a break with Tradition.

Even Archbishop Carlo Vigano is no threat since he interprets LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA ,2 GS 22 etc as being objective and not non objective cases in 2023. So there is a break with the Athanasius Creed and the rest of Tradition.

Some two year back Rorate Caeili (web blog) and Don Pietro Leone, in a report/installment on Ecumenism, made the common error. They interpreted UR 3 irrationally.

This was political. They were forced to interpret UR 3 irrationally.

If they made the change them Leone’s book would take a different direction. He would not be supporting the New Ecumenism. But then they would not allow him to be published.

Now he is a liberal- trad on Vatican Council II. He interprets the Council like the liberals. Liberal trads desert Tradition with their politically correct interpretation of the Council. They are satisfied with the comfortable status quo and do not want to be suspended or laicized.

They will not interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as being in harmony with Tradition and then ask Pope Francis to accept Vatican Council II and interpret it only rationally.

The issue no more is Vatican Council II per se.It is the Council being interpreted with the Rational Premise (invisible people are invisible) or Irrational Premise (invisible people are visible). So LG 8 etc are hypothetical cases only in 2023 or they are objective cases, personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water in the present times. With this irrationality LG 8 etcbecome practical exceptions for EENS and the rest of Tradition.

Do we interpret the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance like Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre or like Archbishop Thomas e Gullickson?

Are we Feeneyite like Brother Thomas Augustine micm or Brother Andre Marie micm?

Are we liberal and political apologists like Scott Hahn or rational and traditional apologists like John Martignoni. The former is welcomed on liberal EWTN.- Lionel Andrades

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