Monday, February 10, 2014

NEW POSSIBILITIES HAVE OPENED FOR THE SSPX

The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX ) has agreed that it has made factual errors in its publications and conferences especially with reference to Vatican Council II.
 
This has opened up new possibilities for reconciliation with the Vatican .
 
Since they admit there are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and since they admit that there are no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the dogma on exclusive salvation two important differences they had with the Vatican  have been removed.
 
The Council is traditional in its text on the issue of other religions and Christian communities.
 
Inter religious dialogue and ecumenism were the main issues which prevented the SSPX from accepting the Council. They also wanted the Vatican to come back to Tradition on these two points.
 
Now that the SSPX is in a position to accept the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, since there are no known exceptions, they  can cite the Council to support their traditional views on other religions and ecumenism.
 
When the media says that the SSPX does not accept the 'reforms' of Vatican Council II on Judaism and other religions, it can be pointed out by the SSPX that there is nothing mentioned in the Council which contradicts extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the SSPX's traditional position. Also Ad Gentes 7 which says all need 'faith and baptism' for salvation supports the dogma, defined three times and which does not mention any exceptions.
 
So the situation has changed for the better for the SSPX and the possibility of their entering the Church with full canonical status.
 
They can now affirm a Vatican Council II which is in perfect agreement with the Syllabus of Errors ( ecumenism and other religions) and the Church Councils and popes, on non Christian religions.
 
They also place an obligation on the Vatican to endorse the Council without suggesting that the dead now saved in Heaven are physically visible, who are known exceptions to Tradition.
-Lionel Andrades

NON C'E NEGAZIONE DALLA SSPX (ITALIA, USA, CANADA )

Sono in accordo che  ci siano errori di fatto nei libri venduti dalla Società di S. Pio X ( Fraternita  Sacerdotale di San Pio X -FSSPX ).


 
E ' difficile per loro fare una svolta.


Non possono dire : -1 . Il Concilio Vaticano II non contraddice il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.2 . Non contraddice la dottrina tradizionale sulle altre religioni e le comunità e chiese cristiane .3 . La Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949 al arcivescovo di Boston supportato Don Leonard Feeney sul dogma.Lui non è stato scomunicato per eresia , ma per la disobbedienza .
 

Lo stesso errore di fatto è stato fatto dai relatori a conferenze FSSPX , compresi quelli a Rimini, Italia.

A queste conferenze , invece di assumere che ogni salvezza menzionato nel Concilio Vaticano II ,  essere invisibile per noi, si presume che questi casi sono fisicamente visibili. Così invece di affermare implicito per noi il battesimo di desiderio loro  implicano che c'è esplicita per noi il battesimo di desiderio . Quindi si presume inoltre che il Concilio Vaticano II contraddice il dogma  extra ecclesiam nulla salus
a causa di questi casi visibili - per - noi e salvati ed esistenti in Cielo .

Il Distretto Superiore della Fraternità Sacerdotale San Pio X in Italia , Don Pierpaolo Petrucci , che ha approvato la Messa funebre di Erich Priebke e poi ha emesso un chiarimento nei media , non ha negato che ci siano errori di libri venduti dalla FSSPX..
Questo includo un articolo scritto in italiano in uno dei libri venduti in Italia .Non è previsto alcun chiarimento dal momento perchè obviamente  che non possiamo vedere i morti sulla terra e I libri di FSSPX assunto possiamo.
-Lionel Andrades

NO DENIAL FROM THE SSPX (ITALY, AMERICA,CANADA)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/no-denial-from-sspx-italy-americacanada.html#links

NO DENIAL FROM THE SSPX (ITALY, AMERICA,CANADA)

They agree that there are factual errors made in the books being sold by the Society of St.Pius X ( SSPX).
 
 
 It is difficult for them to make a U-turn.
They cannot say :-
1. Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
2. It does not contradict the traditional teaching on other religions and Christian communities and churches.
3. The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston supported Fr.Leonard Feeney on  the dogma.He was not excommunicated for heresy but for disobedience.
The same factual error has been made by  speakers at SSPX Conferences , including those at Rimini, Italy.
 
At these conferences instead of  assuming that  all salvation mentioned in Vatican Council II  as being invisible for us it is assumed that these cases are physically visible for us. So instead of affirming implicit for us  baptism of desire they imply there is explicit for us baptism of desire. Then it is further  assumed that Vatican Council contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus  because of these visible- for- us cases now saved and existing in Heaven.
 
The District Superior of the SSPX in Italy, Fr. Pierpaolo Petrucci,  who approved the funeral Mass of Erich Priebke  and then issued a clarification in the media,  has not denied that there are errors in books sold by the SSPX. This includes an article he wrote in Italian in one of the books being sold in Italy.
 
There is to be no clarification since it is obvious we cannot see the dead on earth and the SSPX books have assumed we can.
-Lionel Andrades 


If Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct or wrong, still imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) and the baptism of desire are not explicit for us : no clarification still from SSPX Italy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/if-frleonard-feeney-was-correct-or.html#links
 
 
http://www.sanpiox.it/public/
http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/20-years-summary-sspxs-position-3242