Thursday, April 4, 2019

No denial from Fr.Shehan Boquet, President, Human Life International : unethical and deceptive : PR office responds

Yesterday I posted a report on this blog. 

I have e-mailed Fr. Francesco Giordano, the Director of the Human Life International, Rome telling him that there are no personally known cases of the baptism of desire (BOD9, baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) .He does not and cannot know of anyone saved with BOD, BOB and I.I.Yet he teaches students at the University of St. Thonas Aquinas(Angelicum) in Rome, that BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS.
This is not fair to the priest Fr. Leonard Feeney or his religious communities the St. Benedict Centers(SBC) in the USA...
As a Catholic priest and Director of HLI how can he still teach that EENS has exceptions, when he does not know of any?To persist in this error even after being informed is a scandal.Perhaps it is possible since the President of HLI, Fr. Shehan Boquet also supports the same confusion in Florida, USA.
Then I e-mailed it the Human Life International,USA and Deborah Piroch at the HLI Public Relations office responded.She cited the Catechism of the Catholic Church.I responded.2
She has not denied what I have written in the original post.
Fr. Shehan Boquet will not say that BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS.
He will also not answer two simple questions.
In her final answer,  she states ,'Our priests support exactly what is written in the Catechism and as stated by the Catholic Church.' Even I support what is written in the Catechism but I do interpret it irrationally. For political reasons the priests are continuing with the deception.This is unethical. It is a scandal. They are concerned about their careers and liberal reputation.
She admits Fr. Leonard Feeney was reconciled with the Church.For him there were no literal cases of the baptism of desire etc. It was the same for the popes and saints over the centuries. This is something obvious.
Fr.Francesco Giordano continues with the deception at the University of St.Thomas  Aquinas. It has been years now. There is no response from him or the President of HLI.
HLI priests 'support Life from conception to birth' and believe unknown cases of the baptism of desire etc  are known exceptions to the teaching on the need for all to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.This is their adult reasoning.
They also assume personally  invisible cases, as referenced in Vatican Council II ( LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, GS 22 etc) are visible and objective exceptions to the traditional teaching on ecumenism and other religions and salvation.
This is public heresy and scandal. Offering Holy Mass in this condition is a sacrilege. They need to first rectify the scandal and then offer Holy Mass.
Even after being informed in public they will not issue a denial and affirm the Catholic Faith.
-Lionel Andrades



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 APRIL 3, 2019


Fr, Shenan Boquet,President of Human Life International supports the confusion and scandal

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/fr-shenan-boquetpresidfent-of-human.html


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I am happy to forward your correspondence. I am unsure if they will be able to answer; even now Fr. Boquet is on a mission trip. Both are orthodox and not heretical priests.( I am sure from your answer that they will not respond. Since it takes only a moment to respond to the two questions, for those who are sincere.
So they do not deny what I report on my blog post. Since they do not want to affirm Feeneyite EENS without the irrationality. This is sad. Since they are priests.)

The matters you refer to with regard to Baptism of Desire and Blood are clearly delineated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, contrary to the manner you assert. I attach the information below.(I affirm the Catechism. There are numerous posts on my blog with reference to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.I do not interpret the Catechism irrationally like the two HLI priests. I have given an account of my faith on my blog.They cannot do the same. ) The Church has always also maintained, as well, that there outside the Church there is no salvation but that one may be saved through ignorance.(Again it depends how you interpret 'ignorance'. Does it refer to a known or unknown person ? Do you interpret it with Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible) or Cushingism ( invisible people now saved in Heaven are physically visible exceptions to EENS). There are those even in our day and age who never have contact with the Church or her priests but. according to Our Lord’s mercy, He may choose to grant heaven to those He chooses.(Sure as a possibility. However it is still hypothetical for us and so is not a practical exception  to EENS. For the HLI priests these are literal and known people in the present times. You do not deny it )  A perfect example is the good thief who died next to Christ on the Cross who was granted eternal life.(Yes but we do not know of any one this year who will be the Good Thief or is the Good Thief.A possibility in the past is not an objective exception today to the traditional teaching on salvation.)

As for seeing people in Heaven, again the Church teaches that at the end of the world, the resurrected body and soul are united in Heaven. Even if how we “see” is a bit of a mystery.(We agree that we cannot see people in Heaven in general in 2019. This is not an issue. You and I cannot see or meet someone who is saved or is going to be saved outside the Catholic Church. We cannot see someone who will be saved without faith and the baptism of water(AG 7).
So the bottom line is that you have not denied any of the posts on my blog with reference to the HLI priests.You are still saying that BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS. You are not saying that BOD, BOB and I.I arenot exceptions to EENS.
 Deborah M. Piroch Email: dpiroch@hli.org (Front Royal, VA) Human Life International,USA

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Piroch, Deborah

4:17 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
Dear Mr. Andrades,

You have your answer. Our priests support exactly what is written in the Catechism and as stated by the Catholic Church. I would respectfully ask that you wait and not continue to send four emails a day… HLI is under no compulsion to respond to any emails. Recall that Fr. Feeney was dismissed and excommunicated, only much later reconciled with the Church. He is hardly a model to follow. If you continue to email, I am afraid I will not be able to respond. I am curious why you are singling out HLI in any case, this is most curious given rampant disobedience when here you will find nothing but orthodoxy. We support Life from conception till natural death and urge you to pray and work for the same.


The popes and saints were all Feeneyites. Even Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is Feeneyite.

Griff Ruby critizes Feeneyism and does not state that the popes and saints were all Feeneyites. Even Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is Feeneyite.
St. Robert Bellarmine, St.Ignatius of Loyola, St. Francis Xavier were Feeneyite since they held the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Invincible ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOD) and baptism of blood(BOB) refer to hypothetical cases only.So they never contradicted EENS over the centuries.
Vatican Council II is Feeneyite  at Ad Gentes 7( all need faith and baptism for salvation).LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc  refer to theoretical cases in 2019.So they do not contradict AG 7 or EENS.
Similarly the Catechism of the Catholic Church in 845, 846 is Feeneyite. CCC 845 says the Catholic Church is like the Ark of Noah in which all must enter the avoid Hell.God wants all people to be united in the Catholic Church.While CCC 846 cites Ad Gentes 7( all need faith and baptism for salvation).We do not know any one specifically who has been saved or will be saved because God is not limited to the Sacraments(CCC 1257) or all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church(CCC 846) or because the Church is the sign and univesal sacrament of salvation.(CCC 775,776).
Physically there cannot be any practical exception to EENS since all who aer saved are in Heaven and can only be known to seen by God and those who are in Heaven.
Griff Ruby like the liberal theologians refers to BOD, BOB and I.I as being physically visible.So they become examples of salvation outside the Church.
-Lionel Andrades

Missionary work among non Christians becomes non relevant with Cushingite theology : it changes with Feeneyite theology (Graphics)


Missionary work among non Christians non relevant with Cushingite theology : it changes with Feeneyite theology


















































-Lionel Andrades


 MAY 12, 2018


Repost : There is a mistake in Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus : objective mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/repost-there-is-mistake-in-redemptoris.html

It can be changed. 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
 
-Lionel Andrades

Msgr. Patrick Descourtieux does not represent all traditionalists : SBC not allowed TLM at their chapel



Msgr. Patrick Descourtieux

Msgr. Patrick Descourtieux does not represent all traditionalists I mentioned in a previous blog post. 1
 He interprets Vatican Council II with the New Theology.He does not represent all traditionalists in the Catholic Church.
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 The traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire in the Diocese of Manchester, USA are not allowed to have the Traditional Latin Mass(TLM) offered at the St.Benedict Center chapel.
 Brother Andre Marie MICM,Prior at the St. Benedict Center affirms all Magisterial documents including Vatican Council II. He also affirms Vatican Council II in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).He interprets Vatican Council II rationally.He accepts Pope Francis as the pope and is not a schismatic.
He also interprets the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) as referring to only hypothetical cases for us human beings. They can only be known to God. So theoretically he accepts BOD,BOB and I.I. But he does not consider them to be practical exceptions to EENS. There are no literal cases.
However for Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop of Manchester and the Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), BOD,BOB and I.I refer to known people saved outside the Church. So BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS. This is irrational and non traditional.
Since Brother Andre Marie and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary do not support this irrationality and heresy, they are not allowed to have the Traditional Latin Mass at the SBC chapel.
This is an injustice. It is not Catholic.
-Lionel Andrades

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April 1, 2019


Msgr. Patrick Descourtieux does not represent all trads 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/msgr-patrick-descourtieux-does-not.html