Saturday, December 17, 2016

When I meet a non Catholic on the streets I know he is on the way to Hell since the Catholic Church teaches this : this would be news for many Catholics


Catechism classes are being held in Italy.If I was there I would not be able to say that when I meet a non Catholic I assume he is on the way to Hell.This is the teaching of the Catholic Church. This is according to magisterial documents of the Catholic Church before and after Vatican Council II.This was the teaching of the pre-1949 magisteium of the Church.But at Catechism classes today they would not believe this or want to believe it.
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The ordinary way of salvation in the Catholic Church is 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II). In inter-religious dialogue it is important to remember that the Church is the ordinary means of salvation (Redemptoris Missio 55). The Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water (Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257). Extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence).Even though Christ died for all and the offer of salvation is universal all need to enter the Church for this salvation (Dominus Iesus 20),God the Father wants to unite all mankind in the Catholic Church (Catechism of the Catholic Church 845), the Church is like the Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood (CCC 845) etc.
The Church does not teach that the baptism of desire is the ordinary means of salvation.
I cannot meet someone on the streets who will be saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water.
I cannot meet someone who will be saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. 
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Neither can I meet or see any one who has been saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and who is an example of salvation outside the Church. There is no known salvation outside the Church. There are no 'practical exceptions' to the Ad Gentes 7, CCC 1257,Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence, Dominus Iesus 20 etc.
There are no practical exceptions in 2016 to Jesus' teaching on the need for the baptism of water for salvation(John 3:5). I cannot meet someone who is an exception to Mark 16:16 'those who do not believe will be condemned.'
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So when I meet a non Catholic I know he is on the way to Hell, not because I can judge personally, but because the Church teaches this in magisterial documents before and after Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 16, 2016


Yes when I meet a non Catholic I know that he or she is on the way to Hell since the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus says so. Also the Catechism of Pope Pius X repeats the same message.Similarly Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/yes-when-i-meet-non-catholic-i-know.html

OCTOBER 16, 2016


If the whole world violates the Principle of Non Contradiction then the whole world is wrong.If you and the other sedevacantists assume imaginary cases are physically visible in 2016 then you all are wrong.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/if-whole-world-violates-principle-of.html

OCTOBER 15, 2016


Finally one has to be resolved within onself.There is the need for personal integrity and coherence.Concience is the voice of God reminding us of the truth

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/finally-one-has-to-be-resolved-within.html

OCTOBER 14, 2016


The Principle of Non Contradiction cannot be violated irrespective of the importance of the people or their numbers

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-principle-of-non-contradiction.html


OCTOBER 14, 2016


Politically correct catechism classes begin in Italy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/politically-correct-catechism-classes.html

OCTOBER 13, 2016


An error was made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and much of the Vatican Council II theology is based on this error.This is what I know

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/an-error-was-made-in-letter-of-holy.html

OCTOBER 13, 2016


Since your website suggests that the baptism of desire is an exception to EENS, it would be you who would run into many difficulties in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.This was the error of Archishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX and sedevacantist bishops who have had their religious formation under him.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/since-your-website-suggests-that.html


 OCTOBER 12, 2016



Catechism of the Catholic Church reflects Vatican Council II which does not contradict EENS and the old ecclesiology, that of the 16th century missionaries.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/catechism-of-catholic-church-reflects.html

 OCTOBER 12, 2016


The Popes, Card.Ratzinger.Mons.Lefebvre overlooked an objective error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.The bad fruit we see is due to the misinterpretation and not to Vatican Council II per se.It can be changed today.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-popes-cardratzingermonslefebvre.html


OCTOBER 10, 2016


I even interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1995) as being Feeneyite. I use the same reasoning : hypothetical cases are not explicit in the present times.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/i-even-interpret-catechism-of-catholic.html

OCTOBER 10, 2016


The Letter of the Holy Office says that it is not required that a person be incorporated into the Church as a member for salvation while the Catechism of Pius X says it is necessary.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-letter-of-holy-office-says-that-it.html


OCTOBER 10, 2016



For there to be an exception an exception must exist and it must be different. If there is an apple in a box of oranges then the apple is an exception there in that box since it is different -but also since it exists in that box. The baptism of desire without the baptism of water would be an exception to the dogma EENS - but it does not exist in our reality!

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/for-there-to-be-exception-exception.html

OCTOBER 10, 2016


Vatican Council II and the Catechism of Pope Pius X are Feeneyite.They contradict Pope Pius XII,the Archbishop of Boston and the U.S Jesuits.Confusion arises with 29Q which can be interpreted as being visible or invisible

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/vatican-council-ii-and-catechism-of.html


OCTOBER 9, 2016


The Catechism of Pope Pius X is Feeneyite.It supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and contradicts Pope Pius XII and the Archbishop of Boston. See numbers 24Q and 27Q.Confusion today comes with 29Q. It can be interpreted as being visible or invisible.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-catechism-of-pope-pius-x-is.html

OCTOBER 8, 2016


The sedevacantists must observe that the Catechism of Pope Pius X is Feeneyite.So now they know the error. They can correct it.Vatican Council II supports the old ecclesiology.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-sedevacantists-must-observe-that.html

OCTOBER 8, 2016


The sedevacantists affirm the Catechism of Pope Pius X but not as Feeneyites.They assume that invincible ignorance refers to explicit cases, objectively visible in 2016 and so they are exceptions to that Catechism saying all need to enter the Church for salvation


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-sedevacantists-affirm-catechism-of.html


OCTOBER 8, 2016



Cardinal Raymond Burke does not realize that the Catholic identity has been compromised with his belief in there being known salvation outside the Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/cardinal-raymond-burke-does-not-realize.html

OCTOBER 7, 2016


John Allen at Crux says he has no position on this issue: Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism instead of the usual irrational Cushingism ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/john-allen-at-crux-says-he-has-no.html

OCTOBER 7, 2016


Ask Edward Pentin and John Allen if we can interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of irrational Cushingism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/ask-edward-pentin-and-john-allen-if-we.html


OCTOBER 7, 2016


I affirm Church teachings and magisterial documents with Feeneyism the present magisterium does it with Cushingism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/i-affirm-church-teachings-and.html


OCTOBER 6, 2016


I have shown how the New Theology is irrational and contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction. No one has denied this.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/i-have-shown-how-new-theology-is.html

OCTOBER 5, 2016


If a new religious community wants to be faithful to the Gospel they must not seek recognition from the Vatican

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/if-new-religious-community-wants-to-be.html

OCTOBER 5, 2016


Spencer and Hahn as Catholics do not affirm the centuries old interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So their views on Islam represent those of the liberals

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/spencer-and-hahn-as-catholics-do-not.html

OCTOBER 3, 2016


So we have a choice. There now are two doctrines to choose from.One of them is obviously wrong.The magisterium at some time, past or present, has made a mistake.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/so-we-have-choice-there-now-are-two.html

OCTOBER 3, 2016


FEENEYITE EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS CONSISTENT WITH VATICAN COUNCIL II AND THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/feeneyite-extra-ecclesiam-nulla-salus.html

OCTOBER 3, 2016


There are lay and religious Catholics who are aware of the error and have proclaimed it. I assume they proclaim the Catholic Faith without the common confusion,privately.In public if they are priests they could be suspended by the present magisterium supported by the political Left

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/there-are-lay-and-religious-catholics.html


OCTOBER 3, 2016

The Holy Spirit cannot teach error. We see here that the living Magisterium is irrational.Their conclusion is non traditional and heretical.They can choose to interpret Vatican Council II rationally if they want to

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-holy-spirit-cannot-teach-error-we.html

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Unprecedented! Philosophical mistakes discovered in Vatican Council II

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Feeneyism is the mssing link:two popes,Braz de Avez, Sabino Ardito make an objective mistake on Vatican Council II,ecclesiology : Franciscans of the Immaculate


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If we go back to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney then pastorally Vatican Council II will have the hermeneutic of continuity.If all of them would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition.

Yes we've finally found the missing link.

What causes the hermeneutic of rupture ? 

When has Vatican Council II a hermeneutic of continuity? 

The whole Church rejects Feeneyism and so Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition.Here is the where the error lies.

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This is a doctrinal issue for the Franciscans of the Immaculate (F.I). The F.I Commissioner Fr. Sabino Ardito,sdb and Cardinal Braz de Avez interpret Vatican Council II unaware of the missing link.

So if the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate priests, who offer only the Traditional Latin Mass, affirm LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc as being invisible for us, there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the old ecclesiology.

There would be nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the Feeneyite version of EENS.
 So they would be affirming Vatican Council II ( as sought by the Commissar) and also the ecclesiology of the 16th century missionaries.
 It's as simple as that!

Will they permit all the priests of the F.I  to interpret Vatican Council II with LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc as being invisible and not visible,hypothetical and not concrete, unknown to us and known only to God ?

Presently the Commissioner of the F.I supports  doctrinal ambiguity in the community.He uses a falsehood to interpret Vatican Council II.This makes the Council a break with the past.This is acceptable for Pope Francis.
The Commissioner is not asking the two popes to interpret Vatican Council II rationally  and acknowledge that there is a mistake in the text of the Council.
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The missing  link is the irrational inference in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Get rid of the inference and as in a snap of the finger the Council becomes traditional, as it always was.

Without the irrational inference, Vatican Council II has a hermeneutic of continuity. With the false premise of being able to see the dead-saved,with the baptism of desire etc, the Council has the hermeneutic of rupture.We have finally found the ‘missing link’ for either of the two heremeneutics.It is so simple.

 
We now have found the link as to what makes the Council traditional or non traditional.
Pope Paul VI and Archbishop Lefebvre did not know that an irrational premise  was used in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
We have found the 'missing link' as to what is the basis of 'the spirit of Vatican Council II'. We can avoid it.
The fault is not there with the Council but with the inference.The inference is to assume being saved in invincible ignorance etc are visible in the flesh in 2016 and so are  explicit exceptions to Tradition.
Even if someone were to die without faith and baptism ( which is not de fide) we would not know of any exception today.he would be invisible and unknown to us. These persons would be dead and in Heaven.

If a pope, cardinal,bishop or magisterial document infers that there are exceptions today it is false.It has to be rejected.This is common sense.
Vatican Council II mentions being saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire.We must not infer that these cases are exceptions to the dogma.This would be an error.
Here are the errors.
1.Someone in the past is an exception to the dogma in December 2016 snce he died without faith and baptism. This was personally known to someone at that time.
2.Someone living in 2016 will be an exception to the dogma today since it can be predicted that he will be saved without faith and baptism.
3.Someone in Heaven is an exception to the dogma on earth since this is a known case in Heaven without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
 The magisterium has made the factual error of assuming unknown cases are known in the present times.The famous case of the catechumen who dies before he receives the baptism of water and is saved is an invisible case.
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We have found the missing link as to what creates a hermeneutic of rupture in the interpretation of Vatican Council II so we do not need a new Syllabus of Errors on Vatican Council II as Bishop Athansius Schneider once suggested.
We do not need a Syllabus of Errors on Vatican Council II since we  have found what decides the hermeneutic of continuity.It is the same factor needed to have a rational theology once again; the old ecclesiology.
Now that we have identified the cause of the doctrinal change in the Catholic Church we can avoid it.The Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass can be offered with the old ecclesiology .Ecclesiology does not depend on the liturgy but on avoiding the irrational premise i.e LG 16, LG 8 etc would not refer to visible- for- us cases.
MISSING LINK
We have found the missing link.Lumen Gentium 16 can be considered explicit or implicit, visible or invisble.There is a choice. It is irrational to consider LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc as referring to explicit cases.This is not common sense.It is rational instead to consider them as implicit, hypothetical and invisible for us.
So the old doctrinal option, rejected by the contemporary Magisterium is available again when they reason out correctly.Ecclesiology does not depend on the Latin Mass.
Pope Francis and the political Left it seems do not want the Traditional Latin Mass because of the old ecclesiology.It is being opposed by the one, world religion people.Ecclesiatical Masonry does not want Vatican Council II interpreted with Feeneyism( no exceptions). They are willing to accept the Traditional Latin Mass being offered by the FSSP priests.They like the two popes, accept Vatican Council II with Cushingism( there are known exceptions to EENS).
So now we know that the Traditional Latin Mass in itself is no  more an issue.
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ONLY ONE RATIONAL OPTION 
Even the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate priests who offer the Novus Ordo Mass  have only one rational option in the interpretation of Vatican Council II - and it is in harmony with the old ecclesiology.
They could ask the two popes to affirm the dogma EENS according to the 16th century missionaries using citations of support-  from Vatican Council II ( AG 7, LG 14- all need faith and baptism).Vatican Council II is traditional and supports the old ecclesiology.Cardinal Vraz de Avez and Fr.Sabino Ardito must acknowledge this.
-Lionel Andrades 
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SATURDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2016


Feeneyism is the missing link

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/feeneyism-is-missing-link.html

MAY 13, 2016

Factual mistakes in Vatican Council II are not noted on the SSPX website
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/factual-mistakes-in-vatican-council-ii.html

OCTOBER 11, 2015


When will Fr. Sabino Ardito SDB make an announcement on the Franciscans of the Immaculate doctrinal issue ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/when-will-fr-sabino-ardito-sdb-make.html


 MARCH 8, 2015


What makes a traditionalist or liberal ? It's the premise and EENShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/03/what-makes-traditionalist-or-liberal.html



NOVEMBER 12, 2014


Cardinal Raymond Burke and Fr.Nicholas Gruner affirm the same error as do the liberals

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/cardinal-raymond-burke-and-frnicholas.html

JUNE 27, 2014


Archbishop Lefebvre made a mistake with the Letter of the Holy Office and carried it over into Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/archbishop-lefebvre-made-mistake-with.html

JUNE 13, 2014

Roman Forum Summer Conference this month will use the right hand side column in the interpretation of Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/roman-forum-summer-conference-this.html

JUNE 11, 2014


The 'missing link' discovered : what makes Vatican Council II traditional or heretical

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/the-missing-link-discovered-what-makes.html

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OCTOBER 31, 2016



Cardinal Ratzinger did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II does not have a hermeneutic of rupture ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/cardinal-ratzinger-did-not-know-that.html

OCTOBER 30, 2016


With Feeneyite Vatican Council II the Catholic Church affirms the Social Reign of Christ the King.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/with-feeneyite-vatican-council-ii.html

OCTOBER 30, 2016


Feeneyite Vatican Council II says Lutherans are on the way to Hell.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/feeneyite-vatican-council-ii-says.html


OCTOBER 29, 2016


Feeneyism is the missing link

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/feeneyism-is-missing-link.html

OCTOBER 29, 2016


If all of them would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/if-all-of-them-would-accept-dogma-extra.html

OCTOBER 29, 2016


If we go back to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney then pastorally Vatican Council II will have the hermeneutic of continuity

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/if-we-go-back-to-interpretation-of.html


OCTOBER 29, 2016



Do you see the mistake made by Archbishop Augustine di Noia in the text ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/do-you-see-mistake-made-by-archbishop.html

OCTOBER 28, 2016


I know what I am saying will be new for you.It will be new for most Catholics

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/i-know-what-i-am-saying-will-be-new-for.html

OCTOBER 28, 2016


If they would believe Cardinal Cushing and not Fr.Leonard Feeney was in heresy then the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes : Cardinal Burke, Bishop Athanasius Schneider

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/if-they-believe-that-cardinal-cushing.html

OCTOBER 27, 2016


Until Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider affirm Feeneyism as a salvation theology they will not be able to interpret Vatican Council II with the hermeneutic of continuity.Vatican Council II will continue to be a rupture with Tradition

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/until-cardinal-burke-and-bishop.html

OCTOBER 27, 2016


The difference between me and others is that I interpret Vatican Council II at face-value, according to the text,while the others interpret the text with an inference.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-difference-between-me-and-others-is.html

OCTOBER 26, 2016


This is the irrationality of the present magisterium and it is supported by the two popes.So Church Militant TV has to do the same.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/this-is-irrationality-of-present.html

 OCTOBER 26, 2016


So if Cardinal Burke can accept the innovation and reject the past magisterium and support the present magisterium, Catholics could then ask why cannot they also abort, since one does not have to follow the moral teachings of only the Catholic Church to go to Heaven?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/so-if-cardinal-burke-can-accept.html

OCTOBER 25, 2016


On Mission Sunday Pope Francis promoted the Masonic Christology approved also by Pope Benedict

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/on-mission-sunday-pope-francis-promoted.html

OCTOBER 24, 2016

Pope Francis affirms 'the absoluteness and uniqueness' of Jesus which is common for him in the Lutheran and Pentecostal communities too : not necessary to convert

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/pope-francis-affirms-absoluteness-and.html

OCTOBER 23, 2016

Mission Sunday is being celebrated today without the traditional Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/mission-sunday-is-being-celebrated.html

OCTOBER 22, 2016

Atila S. Guimarães and Robert de Mattei wrote books on Vatican Council II while assuming imaginary and hypothetical cases were objectively visible

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/atila-s-guimaraes-and-robert-de-mattei.html


OCTOBER 21, 2016

Atila S. Guimarães was ignorant of all this when he wrote his book

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/atila-s-guimaraes-was-ignorant-of-all.html

OCTOBER 21, 2016

Atila S. Guimarães made a mistake in the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus : with the same irrational reasoning Vatican Council II emerges as a break with Tradition for him

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/atila-s-guimaraes-made-mistake-in.html

OCTOBER 20, 2016

Why is Vatican Council II not fundamentalist for La Stampa?Archbishop Guido Pozzo does not state that Vatican Council II is fundamentalist.Even Catholic conservatives, traditionalists and La Stampa journalists are not aware that Vatican Council II in itself is fundamentalist

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/why-is-vatican-council-ii-not.html

OCTOBER 18, 2016

Vatican Council II is fundamentalist if you stay clear of the Kasper-Lefebvre theology.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/vatican-council-ii-is-fundamentalist-if.html

OCTOBER 17, 2016

LUTHERANS ARE ON THE WAY TO HELL ACCORDING TO VATICAN COUNCIL II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/lutherans-are-on-way-to-hell-according.html

OCTOBER 17, 2016

Mundabor is still having a problem with Vatican Council (Cushingism) and is not aware of an alternative interpretation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/mundabor-is-still-having-problem-with.html

OCTOBER 16, 2016

I am calling attention to the irrational theology.One can continue to accept all the teachings of the Church, all the dogmas, without using the irrational theology. Change the theology and you change Vatican Council II, change the theology and you change the Church, you take it back to its rational and traditional teachings.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/i-am-calling-attention-to-irrational.html