Saturday, September 15, 2018

Vatican Council II repeats the irrational reasoning of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II (1960-1965)


Yes those who know that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ and refuse to enter or remain in it could not be saved.
However even those who do not know and do not enter into it could not be saved.
This was the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church. I have given examples below.
However the Letter(1949) says those who knowing the Church...refuse to enter in it, will not be saved,  since the the Letter assumes that being saved in invincible ignorance is  an exception to the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation. It assumes there are visible and known people saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance, through no fault of their own.
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So the natives in the Americas' would also be on the road to salvation before the missionaries went there.
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 It was also superfluous for St. Francis Xavier and the Jesuit missionaries to go to India since the natives there in ignorance, would any way be saved. This was the reasoning of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
 It wrongly assumed that there were known cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and then restricts salvation to only those who know.
But there are no known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance, and without the baptism of water.
So the Letter does not say 
 According to Catholic doctrine, the followers of other religions 
are oriented to the Church and are all called to become part 
of her. 
(CDF, Notification on Fr. Jacques Dupuis sj,2001. 
Emphasis added )
The Letter does not say:
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Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary
 that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every
 one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt 
he shall perish everlastingly.(Athansius Creed)
The Letter does not say:
"The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes
and preaches that none of those existing outside 
the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and
 heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal;
 but that they will go into the "eternal fire which was 
prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matthew 25:41), 
unless before death they are joined with Her...- (Cantate
 Domino, Council of Florence 1441.  Extra ecclesiam
 nulla salus. Wikipedia)
The Letter does not say:
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.. to be saved it is not enough to be any sort of member
 of the Catholic Church; it is necessary to be a living 
member. (Catechism of Pope Pius X.24Q)
Neither does it say:
A. No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, 
Apostolic Roman Church, just as no one could be 
saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah,
 which was a figure of the Church.(Catechism of
 Pope Pius X. 27 Q etc.)
Instead the Letter (1949) assumes there 
are exceptions and this is repeated in 
Vatican Council II (LG 14, AG 7).
Now we know that invisible cases of 
the baptism of desire, baptism of blood 
and being saved in invincible ignorance 
never ever were visible exceptions to 
the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 
made a mistake. But in 1960-1965 at 
Vatican Council II they did not know
 that this was a mistake.
So the result is that the first part of 
Lumen Gentium 14 in blue is orthodox 
and the second part in red comes 
from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
Lumen Gentium 14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn 
its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself
 upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the
 Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary
 for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which
 is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way
 of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed 
the necessity of faith and baptism and thereby affirmed
 also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism
 as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever,
 therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made
 necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain
 in it, could not be saved.
It is the same with Ad Gentes 7.
Ad Gentes 7 : Therefore, all must be converted to Him
made known by the Church's preaching,(Lionel: 
Only those who have been preached too?) and all 
must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into 
the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by 
stressing in express language the necessity of faith 
and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same 
time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into 
which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore
 those men cannot be saved, who though aware 
that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church 
as something necessary, still do not wish to enter
 into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God 
in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably 
ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without 
which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6), yet a
 necessity lies upon the Church (1 Cor. 9:16), and at the 
same time a sacred duty, to preach the Gospel. And 
hence missionary activity today as always retains its power 
and necessity (Lionel: But with there being exceptions
 to the dogma EENS and the necessity for all with no
 exceptions to be members of the Church for salvation).
So when we read Vatican Council 
II we have to be aware of 
hypothetical cases being mistaken
for being objective examples of 
salvation outside the Church.
We have to be especially careful 
when reading Lumen Gentium 14 
and Ad Gentes 7.
-Lionel Andrades