Monday, April 2, 2018

Catholic media comments on Vatican critique of Scalfari but not on Cardinal Nicols cultivated, liberal statement on Hell and Catholic teaching

Image result for Photos eugenio scalfariImage result for Photo Cardinal Vincent Nichols
There are so many comments on the carefully crafted statement of the Vatican critiquing Scalfari but there are no reports on Catholic media, on the carefully cultivated statement of Cardinal Vince Nicols denying the Biblical reference to 'fire and brimstone' in Hell. He also did not say that non Catholics and non Christians in general are going to Hell. This has been Catholic teaching over the centuries and it is supported by Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Instead he suggested that there are known exceptions to the Church's traditional salvation and moral teachings.For him there are known cases of people committing suicide who will experience God's mercy and so will not go to Hell.
The liberal English cardinal rejects the traditional teaching on most people going to Hell which is there in Vatican Council II.It says all need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7).Vatican Council II is telling the cardinal, who would prefer to look the other way, that most people on earth go to Hell since they die without 'faith and baptism' in the Catholic Church.
The cardinal also ignored the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257) telling him that all non Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists etc are in Hell. Since 'the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water'.Non Catholics in general die without the baptism of water and with Original Sin on their soul. They are in Hell.




Yet this teaching of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, on millions of non Catholics being in Hell is ignored by Catholic media and Catholic religious.
Since they are confused by hypothetical cases, invisible people, which the Magisterium assumes, are non hypothetical. They wrongly infer that these unknown people are known examples of salvation outside the Church.Invisible people would be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.
So according to the present Magisterium, LG 16, LG 8, GS 22 etc would be exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 and the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257.This is the false reasoning of Cardinal Nicols too. LG 16, LG 8 would also be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, for him.
So there are no comments on Cardinal Nicols confusing and vague statement on Hell.He contradicts himself. Then he also denies the traditional interpretation on exclusive salvation in the Church.He also ignores Vatican Council and the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X supporting Feeneyite EENS, which  dogmatically tell us most people are oriented to Hell, since they die without faith and baptism in the Catholic Church.The message is that they are in Hell.This is why the missionaries went to other countries.
If Cardinal Nicols supported the old ecclesiology of the Church that would be the end of any theological opening for the new ecumenism. The new  ecumenism, theologically, depends upon Catholics accepting that there is known salvation outside the Church. However common sense tells us that there can be no known salvation outside the Church for us humans.
If he supported the past ecclesiology of the Church then he would have to say that most people are in Hell and it is important that there be mission, so that non Catholics convert into the Catholic Church.This would be the end of the New Evangelisation which is also based on there being known salvation outside the Church.
 Invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance have to be visible cases in the present times for the cardinal and his bishops.This is very important for him.Otherwise he would have to admit that all the non Catholics, with no exception, who participate in his inter religious meetings are Hell-bound at the time of death and this would be Catholic teaching before and after Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades



MARCH 31, 2018


"No Fire in Hell" - London Cardinal Ignores the Gospel

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/no-fire-in-hell-london-cardinal-ignores.html


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Catechism of the Catholic Church tells us non Christians are in Hell without the baptism of water







 APRIL 2, 2018


Of course the Church says that there are people in Hell in the present times: the Catechisms and Vatican Council II support Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/04/of-course-church-says-that-there-are.html


































 APRIL 1, 2018

Cardinal Nicols says that the Catholic Church does not say that any one person is in Hell. This is false
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/04/cardinl-nicols-says-that-catholic.html



APRIL 2, 2018

Meaningless Profession of Faith was made yesterday in Church for Easter
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/04/meaningless-profession-of-faith-was.html









Repost : OATH AGAINST MODERNISM : MAGISTERIUM IS IN HERESY

SEPTEMBER 11, 2015

OATH AGAINST MODERNISM : MAGISTERIUM IS IN HERESY


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Book of Blessings (Rituale Romanum) :

OATH AGAINST MODERNISM
Given by His Holiness St. Pius X September 1, 1910.
To be sworn to by all clergy, pastors, confessors, preachers, religious superiors, and professors in philosophical-theological seminaries.
I . . . . firmly embrace and accept each and every definition that has been set forth and declared by the unerring teaching authority of the Church, especially those principal truths which are directly opposed to the errors of this day. And first of all, I profess that God, the origin and end of all things, can be known with certainty by the natural light of reason from the created world (see Rom. 1:19), that is, from the visible works of creation, as a cause from its effects, and that, therefore, his existence can also be demonstrated: Secondly, I accept and acknowledge the external proofs of revelation, that is, divine acts and especially miracles and prophecies as the surest signs of the divine origin of the Christian religion and I hold that these same proofs are well adapted to the understanding of all eras and all men, even of this time. Thirdly, I believe with equally firm faith that the Church, the guardian and teacher of the revealed word, was personally instituted by the real and historical Christ when he lived among us, and that the Church was built upon Peter, the prince of the apostolic hierarchy, and his successors for the duration of time.
Lionel.

There is a problem here.
Before 1808 the Church clearly taught the dogma  extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Today the Church teaches that being saved in invincible ignorance of the Gospel ,  the baptism of desire and the baptism of blood are exceptions. So the dogma was changed and now has been discarded.
It is also assumed that Lumen Gentium 16 is an exception to the Feeneyite version of the dogma.
So the teaching of the Church has clearly changed here.
There is a new doctrine being enforced by the magisterium.
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Fourthly, I sincerely hold that the doctrine of faith was handed down to us from the apostles through the orthodox Fathers in exactly the same meaning and always in the same purport.
Lionel:
We have a doctrine of faith which has been changed.The Nicene Creeds says I beleive in one baptism for the forgivess of sins. The Baltimore Catechism(1808) says  there are three baptisms, water, desire and blood. The Catechism of the Catholic Church also says the same.
In 1949 Fr.Leonard Feeney said there is only one  baptism, the baptism of water and every one needed it for salvation. For him the baptism of desire and blood were not explicit and so were not exceptions.
He was told by the Holy Office 1949 during the  pontificate of Pope Pius XII that the baptism of desire and blood were exceptions, in other words  they were explicit and known in personal cases to be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma which he held.So doctrine has been
changed by the magisterium.
How can the baptism of desire and blood be explicit?
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Therefore, I entirely reject the heretical' misrepresentation that dogmas evolve and change from one meaning to another different from the one which the Church held previously.
Lionel:
The magisterial documents Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus etc no more affirm the strict interpretation  of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as the three  Church Councils which defined the dogma.So doctrine has been changed officially.
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I also condemn every error according to which, in place of the divine deposit which has been given to the spouse of Christ to be carefully guarded by her, there is put a philosophical figment or product of a human conscience that has gradually been developed by human effort and will continue to develop indefinitely
Lionel:
Philosophically it is being taught that being saved in invincible ignorance, implicit desire or martyrdom refer to cases which are known in the present times and they exclude the baptism  of water. This is irrational and heretical.Yet it is magisterial.
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Fifthly, I hold with certainty and sincerely confess that faith is not a blind sentiment of religion welling up from the depths of the subconscious under the impulse of the heart and the motion of a will trained to morality; but faith is a genuine assent of the intellect to truth received by hearing from an external source. By this assent, because of the authority of the supremely truthful God, we believe to be true that which has been revealed and attested to by a personal God, our creator and lord.
Lionel:
The dogma on salvation, refers to a faith issue.It has been changed.
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Furthermore, with due reverence, I submit and adhere with my whole heart to the condemnations, declarations, and all the prescripts contained in the encyclical Pascendi and in the decree  Lamentabili, especially those concerning what is known as the history of dogmas. 

Lionel:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church when it states God is not limited to the Sacraments contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, if it is assumed that these cases are known in the  present times.Similarly when it is assumed that LG 16 refers to explicit  instead of implicit cases, it contradicts the Syllabus of Errors.
If LG 16 is assumed to be implicit then it does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors but this is not how LG 16 is being interpreted by the liberals, traditionalists and the magisterium.
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 I also reject the error of those who say that the faith held by the Church can contradict history...

I firmly hold, then, and shall hold to my dying breath the belief of the Fathers in the charism of truth, which certainly is, was, and always will be in the succession of the episcopacy from the apostles. The purpose of this is, then, not that dogma may be tailored according to what seems better and more suited to the culture of each age; rather, that the absolute and immutable truth preached by the apostles from the beginning may never be believed to be different, may never be understood in any other way...

Lionel:
 The faith of the fathers of the Church, the Deposit of the faith,  is no more there on the salvation issue since doctrine has been changed by mixing up the visible-invisible, explicit-implicit distinction.
It can still be restored to the original when this confusion is not made, for example, in the interpretation of Vatican Council .
Immagine correlata This was a mistake made by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the traditionalists too.Church Militant TV uses this reasoning and believes it is correct since it is 'magisterial'.
Immagine correlataMichael Voris says not every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church since for him the baptism of desire etc are explicit and so are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Church Fathers,Church Councils and the magisterium of pre-1808 times.This is modernism that Church Militant TV , the SSPX and the liberals are un-knowingly promoting.
Vatican Council II is Feeneyite, traditional and pro-Syllabus of Errors 
when all salvation in Heaven is accepted as being invisible instead of invisble, known only to God and unknown an unseen for us human beings.Vatican Council II is not ambigous on the salvation issue.There is no change in doctrine in Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades
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http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/medjugorje-crackdown

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10moath.htm

Repost : Oath of fidelity made by all Bishops officially supports irrationality, heresy and non traditional conclusions

DECEMBER 10, 2017

Oath of fidelity made by all Bishops officially supports irrationality, heresy and non traditional conclusions

OATH OF FIDELITY MADE BY ALL BISHOPS, SOME CONSIDERATIONS, AND YOU

Repost : Impediment in the Profession of Faith of the Franciscans of the Immaculate Governor General

AUGUST 5, 2013

Impediment in the Profession of Faith of the Franciscans of the Immaculate Governor General

With the new appointments  of Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz   and  Archbishop José Rodríguez Carballo, President and Secretary respectively of the Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life and the new Commissioner and Governor General of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, Fr. P. Fidenzio Volpi O.F.M. Cap.there will be the Profession of Faith.They have either made a Profession of Faith in their new office or are about to do so.
 
However there is an impediment.
There is doctrinal issue, a faith issue,on which there should be an objection to  the Profession of Faith being made by the President and Secretary of the Congregation for Institudes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life and the Governor General of the Franciscans of the Immaculate Fr.P.Fidenzio Volpi O.F.M.
 
A simple clarification could sort things out (1), instead of appealing to the Apostolic Signatura for a decision.TheFranciscan Friars of the Immaculate or their friends could pick up this issue.
 
In the Profession of Faith, the recitation of the Nicene Creed  is expected, indicating that Fr.Fidenzio Volpi and the others are believers in the Creed of the Catholic Church.
Fr. P. Fidenzio Volpi O.F.M. Cap will assume Protestants have 'ecclesial faith' as Pope Francis has stated in the encylical Lumen Fidei.He will  conclude that there is known salvation  on earth and these cases are exceptions  to the dogma on salvation. So Protestants are saved in the present times. These cases who are  saved can be named  in 2013 and so these are personally  known people, visible to him, who have 'ecclesial faith'.
 
Since there are known cases saved among Christians in 2013, who do not need Catholic Faith, he will approve  a theology of religions and consider this 'as being in step with the Church'. He would expect the Fransciscans of the Immaculate to accept a theology of religions.
 
Since there are known exceptions to the dogma on salvation they would interpret Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7, where the Council states all need 'faith and baptism' and all need to enter the Church 'as through a door' a irrelevant.
 
As mentioned in the  previous post the two popes in Lumen Fidei were saying extra ecclesiam nulla salus was  irrelevant. Also irrelevant was  Ad Gentes 7 'faith and baptism for all'.The Nicene Creed ( I believe in one (known) baptism and not three (known)baptisms) has been changed.The Athansius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation has been changed to outside the Church there is knownsalvation.The Catechism of the Catholic Church (846) affirming the literal interpretation of outside the Church no salvation, that of Fr.Leonard Feeney, is changed to assume that there are the familiar known exceptions,whom one can name in the present times (2013).The official teaching of the Catholic Church according to magisterial texts, before and after Vatican Council II is put aside for the unofficial, popular teaching of the Church with the false premise of knowing and seeing the dead in the present times.
 
The Profession of Faith has been changed!. This is not the Catholic Faith and it is not the Nicene Creed.
-Lionel Andrades
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  The Congregation is located in front of St. Peter's Basilica at Piazza Pio XII, 3 / 00193 Rome.
Pertinent telephone numbers are:
His Eminence the Cardinal Prefect +39. 06. 69884121
His Excellency Archbishop Secretary +39. 06. 69884584
receptionists +39 06. 69884128 and +39. 06. 69892511
FAX +39. 06. 69884526
E-mail: civcsva.pref@ccscrlife.va (Prefect)
civcsva.segr@ccscrlife.va (Secretary)
vati059@ccscrlife.va (information)
 
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