Friday, June 9, 2017

HELL per Fr. Jose Maniyangat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWLk_u-_BKE




Testimonio Sacerdote Católico en el Infierno - José Maniyangat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0CsiT8I0Y

Father Jose Healing Mass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmI4trdddMw

Priest Near Death Experience in Hell, Heaven, Purgatory

Priest Near Death Experience in Hell, Heaven, Purgatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hexPfkQmpDo




JUNE 9, 2017


Eucharistic Healing Service Father Jose Maniyangat

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/eucharistic-healing-service-father-jose.html


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http://www.frmaniyangathealingministry.com/

Fr Fernando Suarez - Bone Cancer Patient.f4v

Fr Fernando Suarez - Bone Cancer Patient.f4v
https://youtu.be/J3ulfclpCvQ


The Crippled and Lame Can Walk after healing from Fr. Suarez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUHm7Xw1RA0




Fr Fernando Suarez - Lung Cancer Patient.f4v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHPSZ6VY4bs


Father Fernando in Sydney Healing Testimonies Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJiNG9ERGk


FATHER FERNANDO SUAREZ HEALING PRAYER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Qhhyu3AaY

Eucharistic Healing Service Father Jose Maniyangat

Eucharistic Healing Service Father Jose Maniyangat
https://youtu.be/1knD_4A3uQY

EWTN needs to admit that 'the Church' made an objective error : even popes make factual mistakes


In the response of Colin B. Donovan STL, Lay Apologist at EWTN to Warren Goddard,lay supporter of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr. Leonard Feeney and the missionaries of the 16th century,the EWTN apologist makes two points 1) the Church accepts invincible ignorance (Cushingite) which he infers is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite) and 2) this was the new theology of Cardinal Ratzinger in Dominus Iesus.
Donovan writes:
The doctrine of invincible ignorance remains, as it must. It is as much a part of the Tradition as is Extra Ecclesia (sic)- whose meaning was well expounded by Cardinal Ratzinger in Dominus Iesus of 2000. What is important is God's knowledge of the culpability, not man's assumption of it.
He is factually and objectively wrong.

The ' doctrine of invincible ignorance remains', but which doctrine ? Invinicible ignorance can be interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism, as referring to an objective person,some one personally known (Cushingism) or an invisible and hypothetical case( Feeneyism).For Cardinal Ratzinger extra ecclesiam nullas salus is Cushingite, there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS( Feeneyite), for him. So EENS is no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century ( Feeneyite).
For Colin B.Donovan and Pope Benedict XVI there is a development of the dogma EENS( Feeneyite) with Vatican Council II ( Cushingite). Since invincible ignorance(LG 16) refers to visibly and personally known cases in the present times,saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, they are examples of salvation outside the Church. So the new developed EENS is Cushingite.There is no more an outside the Church there is no salvation.
So he would disagree with Warren Goddards position on EENS since Vatican Council II (LG 16) contradicts EENS(Feeneyite) with 'visible exceptions'.
This is objectively false.However this is also the error of the magisterium. The magisterium is wrong too since if any one says people in Heaven are visible on earth this would be an objective error. If a pope says this it would still be an objective error. Also if any one says that there are known cases on earth of people who will be saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church this too would be factually incorrect. Since there are no such cases.If a pope says this it would still be a factual mistake.
So we know that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell, not because we can judge culpability but because this is the teaching of the Holy Spirit who guides the magisterium of the Church, who guides the obedient magisterium of the Church. So it is the Church which is saying that all Jews,Muslims, atheists and other non Catholics are oriented to the fires of Hell, all, and there are no known exceptions for us human beings.There are no known exceptions to Jesus' teaching in John 3:5 and Mark 16:16.
Colin Donovan would not know of any practical exceptions to the dogma EENS in the USA. His friends and relatives would not know of any exception in the past. Since it is impossible for us humans to know of any exception to EENS.
So when the EWTN apologist says 1) the Church accepts invincible ignorance (Cushingite) which he believes is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite) and 2)this was the new theology of Cardinal Ratzinger in Dominus Iesus, he needs to acknowledge that this is an objective error. It is also a rupture with the
magisterium of the 16th century for example.The Church needs to correct this innovation. The present magisterium needs to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism.This would be rational, traditional and non heretical.
The ' doctrine of invincible ignorance ' interpreted with Cushingism is a new doctrine.It can re-interpreted with Feeneyism and then we will be back to the old ecclesiology of the Church.
-Lionel Andrades

June 8, 2017

Colin B. Donovan interprets magisterial documents with irrational Cushingism : rupture with the past
eucharistandmission.blogspot.ro/…/colin-b-donovan…