Friday, December 11, 2020

Michael Sean Winters and John Allen Jr at the National Catholic Reporter and Crux News, want to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise a little longer. Overnight they are being asked to affirm Tradition and Feeneyite EENS and they cannot accept it

 Michael Sean Winters and John Allen Jr at the National Catholic Reporter and Crux News,  want to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise a little longer. Overnight  they are being asked to affirm Tradition and Feeneyite EENS and they cannot accept it. -Lionel Andrades

So what if you think Pope Benedict is the pope and not Pope Francis ? They both interpret the Creeds , EENS and the Catechisms with the false premise.The result is first class heresy.Can a pope in manifest mortal sin be a pope ?

 So what if you think Pope Benedict is the pope and not Pope Francis  ? They both interpret the Creeds , EENS and the Catechisms with the false premise.The result is first class heresy.Can a pope in manifest mortal sin be a pope ? - Lionel Andrades

There is no schism in the Catholic Church at the time of the two popes since they are both interpreting Vatican Council II with the false premise, to create a false rupture with Tradition, and the people do not know about it

 There is no schism in the Catholic Church at the time of the two popes since they are both interpreting Vatican Council II with the false premise, to create a false rupture with Tradition, and the people do not know about it. -Lionel Andrades

 





DECEMBER 11, 2020

Pope Francis needs Pope Benedict's cooperation since if Pope Benedict announces that he had made a mistake all these years and that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise, without the New Theology, then this will restrict Pope Francis' liberalism.He will no more be able to cite Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise. The Church will return to the times of the Jesuit missionaries in the Middle Ages but in harmony with Vatican Council II(without the irrationality)

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/pope-francis-needs-pope-benedicts.html



DECEMBER 10, 2020



There is nothing in the entire text of Vatican Council II to contradict the strict intepretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).So the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) today, during the pontificate of Pope Francis, has made a mistake.They contradict the CDF of the 1930's and past centuries( Holy Office). Since the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance in the Baltimore Catechism,the Catechism of Trent and the Catechism of Pope Pius X are not objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS. A correction of itself is needed from the CDF

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/there-is-nothing-in-entire-text-of_38.html



The SSPX Center at Albano, Italy are obliged to interpret Vatican Councl II with the false premise and they cannot do anything about it.Since it is a policy decision of the SSPX, Curia at Econe.The change has to be made by the SSPX Superior General.

 The SSPX Center at Albano, Italy are obliged to interpret Vatican Councl II with the false premise and they cannot do anything about it.Since it is a policy decision of the SSPX, Curia at Econe.The change has to be made by the SSPX Superior General.

 He does not seem to want to issue a statement on this subject since the SSPX position on Vatican Council II has always been politically correct with the Left. They use the false premise, like the liberals to create a break with Tradition. -Lionel Andrades

Two Versions of the Nicene Creed, two Professions of Faith in the Catholic Church, mine and yours

 When I recite the Nicene Creed I say, "I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins" and I mean it is the baptism of water which is physically visible and repeatable.For the rest of the Church it is three known baptisms, may be more, which exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.

It would have to exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, for example, for the present two popes and the cardinals and bishops, since they project exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). The baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I) are exceptions to EENS for them.

So the BOD, BOB and I.I would be physically visible and personally known, for them to be practical exceptions to their being exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

Without exceptions to EENS everyone else would also be Feeneyite.But they say they are not Feeneyites.In two theological papers of the International Theological Commission there are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS and the exlusivist ecclesiology of the Church, which are mentioned.

So the rest of the Church believes in three or more baptisms, which exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, they are desire, blood, invincible ignorance etc.

For me there is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and for the others in the Catholic Church there are three or more baptisms. Hypothetical cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I are objective exceptions to EENS for them and examples of known salvation outside the Catholic Church.So hypothetical cases are non hypothetical for them and so there are exceptions.

For me EENS has no exceptions and for them there are exceptions.

So when I say I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of since I am not saying that there are known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I.I am not saying that there are three known cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I.For me all need the baptism of water for salvation all need the baptism of water to remove Original Sin and we cannot know of any exception.-Lionel Andrades

Overnight the interpretation of Vatican Councl II has changed radically.The Council has changed before our very eyes and Pope Francis has emerged as a conservative Catholic, if he stops the irrational interpretation of the Council with the false premise.

 Overnight the interpretation of Vatican Councl II has changed radically.The Council has changed before our very eyes and Pope Francis has emerged as a conservative Catholic, if he stops the irrational interpretation of the Council with the false premise.

Catholics now know that it is the false premise which creates the hermeneutic of rupture and not if you are labeled a traditionalist or conservative or liberal Catholic.  -Lionel Andrades

The editorial staff of Radici Cristiane, Correspondenza Romana and other media of Roberto dei Mattei are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise, like the liberals and the present two popes. They will not affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus in harmony with Vatican Council II

The editorial staff of Radici Cristiane, Correspondenza Romana and other media of Roberto dei Mattei  are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise, like the liberals and the present two popes. They will not affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus in harmony with Vatican Council II. -Lionel Andrades

When Pope Francis criticizes the traditionalists he has to be shown how without the false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Councl II he becomes a rigid traditionalist.He would be affirming the dogma on outside the Church there is no salvation, extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

 

When Pope Francis criticizes the traditionalists  he has to be shown how without the false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Councl II he becomes a rigid traditionalist.He would be affirming the dogma on outside the Church there is no salvation, extra ecclesiam nulla salus. -Lionel Andrades

It's the false premise which creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition and not Vatican Council II per se.This is new information. When someone criticizes the traditionalists, it shows that he does not understand how the false premise works. He needs to be shown how he would emerge a traditionalist if he did not use the false premise

It's the false premise which creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition and not Vatican Council II per se.This is new information.

When someone criticizes  the traditionalists, it shows that he does not understand how the false premise works. He needs to be shown how he would emerge a traditionalist if he did not use the false premise. -Lionel Andrades

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Pope Francis needs Pope Benedict's cooperation since if Pope Benedict announces that he had made a mistake all these years and that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise, without the New Theology, then this will restrict Pope Francis' liberalism.He will no more be able to cite Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise. The Church will return to the times of the Jesuit missionaries in the Middle Ages but in harmony with Vatican Council II(without the irrationality)

 


Pope Francis needs Pope Benedict's cooperation since if Pope Benedict  announces that he had made a mistake all these years and that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise, without the New Theology, then this will restrict Pope Francis' liberalism.He will no more be able to cite Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise. The Church will return to the times of the Jesuit missionaries  in the Middle Ages but in harmony with Vatican Council II(without the irrationality).-Lionel Andrades


DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis does not interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and if Pope Benedict does interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, admitting that he had made a mistake all these years, what would be the reaction of followers of the two popes ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/if-pope-francis-does-not-interpret.html



 DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise then the teaching of theology to Catholics and non Catholics changes

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/if-pope-francis-announces-that-vatican_16.html

DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Benedict and Pope Francis announce that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise we will have doctrinal unity in the Catholic Church. Now the two popes are promoting division

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/if-pope-benedict-and-pope-francis.html



If Pope Benedict announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise and that in the past he had made a mistake what will be Pope Francis' reaction. - Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/if-pope-benedict-announces-that-vatican.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/12/if-pope-francis-does-not-interpret.html

 DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise Cardinal Kasper and Bishop Fellay would be on the same side.

 If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the false premise  Cardinal Kasper and Bishop Fellay  would be on the same side. Cardinal Kasper would not interpret  Vatican Council II to create  liberalism and a rupture with Tradition(EENS etc).Bishop Fellay  would not interpret Vatican Council II to create a rupture with Tradition and then reject  the Council. The traditional-liberal concept and division will end. Since all could interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and in harmony with Tradition. -Lionel Andrades


 DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted without the common false premise; the common New Theology of Pope Benedict, what will the German bishops do ? What will the English bishops do ? Malta ?



 DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis and Pope Benedict announce that they would be interpreting Vatican Council II without the false premise there would be no exception in the text of the Council to the strict interpretation of EENS, according to St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine


DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis announces that he will interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise then the doctrinal issue is resolved for the Society of St. Pius X (SPX). They can ask for canonical recognition

DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis announces that he will interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise then Cardinal Braz de Avez can do the same. So the Franciscans of the Immaculate could accept the Council, like them. The Council will be in harmony with Tradition

DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis announces that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the false premise it will mean the Archbishop-Secretaries of the CDF, Morandi and Di Noia, made a mistake in their communication with Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior at the St. Benedict Center, N.H, USA.They interpreted the Catechism of the Catholic Church(n.847-848) with the false premise


DECEMBER 8, 2020

If Pope Francis would interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise he would indicate that the Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO) made an objective mistake in 1949 and there really were no known exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)

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