Wednesday, October 10, 2012

COULD THERE BE A THIRD FALSE EXCOMMUNICATION ?



1. They excommunicated Fr.Leonard Feeney not knowing that we cannot see the dead saved and there really are no exceptions to his literal interpretation of the dogma. They assumed there were visible ghosts, who were exceptions.

2. They excommunicated the bishops of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) since they assumed Vatican Council II contradicts Tradition and the SSPX was not accepting this version of the Council.

Since the dead saved were allegedly visible to them they assumed that these cases contradicted extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors.The SSPX could not accept this. This was a false interpretation of Vatican Council II. They were excommunicated.

3. They can excommunicate the SSPX once again. Since they still believe we can see the dead and  Vatican Council II is interpreted by them as a break from Tradition. Ghost busters are needed to prevent a third mistake.-Lionel Andrades


CARDINAL JOSEPH RATZINGER AND ARCHBISHOP MARCEL LEFEBVRE COULD HAVE PREVENTED THE SSPX PROBLEM BY IDENTIFYING THE WRONG PREMISE

Vatican can come back to Tradition and meet the SSPX demand for their re entry by identifying the false premise

The Vatican can meet the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) demand for their re entry into the Church with canoncial status. The Vatican can come  back to tradition in doctrine. They need to publicly  identify the false premise.


1.There is no known visible dead.


2. The visible dead premise is not to be used  in the interpretation fo the Vatican Council II.


3. Vatican Council II does not contradict itself anymore.


This new understanding of Vatican Council II is not based on a theology but the universal understanding that we cannot see the dead saved and alive on earth in 2012.

The present widespread interpretaion of Vatican CouncilII  has its foundation in  irrationality. Once it is removed Vatican Council II becomes as traditional as the SSPX, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and thet Syllabus of Errors.

VATICAN COUNCIL II CONTRADICTS ITSELF :FALSE PREMISE
Presently Vatican Council II contradicts itself because of this false premise of the visible dead saved on earth.


Ad Gentes 7 contradicts itself.


Ad Gentes 7 contradicts Ad Gentes 11.


Ad Gentes 7 contradicts Lumen Gentium 16 etc.

The Vatican permits this contradiction and confusion and in the Pontifical universities they call it a 'mystery'.-Lionel Andrades.

They excommunicated the SSPX once with the visible dead theory and they could do it again-unless someone intervenes
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/10/they-excommunicated-sspx-once-with.html#links  

They excommunicated the SSPX once with the visible dead theory and they could do it again-unless someone intervenes

Even if Bishop Bernard Fellay understands the visible dead error of Cushing and Vatican Council II it is going to take time before he gets this message across to the rest of the Society of St.pius X (SSPX). So it will take time .Someone has to bring the visible dead error to the attention of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith  and Ecclesia Dei.

Without identifying the Cushing visible dead error once again there could be an excommunication with all the irrational, heretical errors in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.After the excommunication the Vatican could discover they were wrong.

We now know that it was wrong to excommunicate Fr.Leonad Feeney and not lift the excommunication for 19 years, when the baptism of desire was never ever an exception to his literal interpretation of the dogma on salvation.

So there should no more be threats of an 'ecclesial rupture' since the SSPX cannot be expected to accept a Council based on a known falsehood.The falsehood could be identified and removed and then the SSPX could be asked to accept Vatican Council II.

Similarly the Pontifical Urbaniana University University , the University of St.Thomas Aquinas and other Pontifical Universities and seminaries in Rome also need to accept Vatican Council II  -  without the visible dead saved falsehood.
-Lionel Andrades


The SSPX was excommunicated because Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Ratzinger, Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops were not aware of the Richard Cushing error