Saturday, September 7, 2013

Three Questions for Guido Pozzo

VaticanoII un dibattito apertoFr.J.M Gleize is no help to the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX). As a professor of Ecclesiology he should have been protesting at Ecclesia Dei, claiming full canonical status as a right since the Council is traditional on the issues of other religions and Christian communities. He cannot do it now because of his  irrational theology, leaving discerning liberals laughing up their sleeve.
 
Mons.Guido Pozzo (1) has only to be asked three questions and his common sense answers will end the SSPX's problem.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The questions are
 1. We personally do not know anyone saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire ?
2.There is no magisterial document which says we know these cases?
3.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church do not state that we know these cases saved in invincible ignorance etc or that they are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus?

 
The answer to these three questions by the Secretary of Ecclesia Dei, changes a common misunderstanding of Vatican Council II and the documents of Pope Pius XII in particular.
Also the whole Church will now be able to come back to Tradition, meeting the SSPX's second demand.The Church will be able to come back to Tradition since all magisterial documents, including Vatican Council II will be interpreted according to Feeneyism ( no visible exceptions) and not Cushingism ( with visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.).
 
Catholics will know that the Holy Spirit is rational and that an irrational interpretation with Cushingism is not the teaching of the Catholic Church.A Catholic understanding of what the Magisterium really teaches will have changed.
 
Then if some one  says every one needs to enter the Church except for those in invincible  ignorance, elements of sanctification grace, seeds of the Word etc, their informed  response will be "This is irrational. We do not know of any of these cases for them to be exceptions in the present times to all needing to convert into the Church for salvation".
If someone still says that the baptism of desire  is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, they will respond," This is heresy. No Church text claims these cases are known exceptions. This is a personal, popular view. To deny or change an ex cathedra dogma like extra ecclesiam nulla salus is heresy. To claim the Nicene Creed says there is not one but three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sin is heresy. To claim that the Athanasius Creed says there is known salvation outside the Church is heresy."
This is the issue that Fr.Jean Marie Gleize should take up with Mons. Guido Pozzo.He also needs to upgrade this information in his new books and in his theology classes at Econe.Talks between the Vatican and the SSPX could begin once again since he would be teaching that  Vatican Council II is traditionalism when interpreted with Feeneyism not Cushingism. There is the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition.
 
He could also comment on the irrationality in two of the theological papers of the International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions and The Hope of Salvation for  Infants who die without being baptized, which uses  Cushingism.
-Lionel Andrades
 
First Saturday


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Mons.Guido Pozzo, Secretary,Pontificial Ecclesia Dei, Vatican City.
Tel: 06 698 2
E-mail: eccdei@ecclsdei.va


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