Wednesday, November 23, 2016

Le Suore Francescane dell'Immacolata hanno creato un precedente per tutte le comunità religiose.Accettato il Concilio Vaticano II, senza Rahneriana teologia.Questa è extraordinaria.Non stanno negando il Concilio e non stanno negando Tradizione



Le Suore Francescane dell'Immacolata hanno creato un precedente per tutti communita religiosa.Loro accettato il Concilio Vaticano II, senza la teologia Rahneriana.Questa e extraordinaria.Non stanno negando il Concilio e non stanno negando Tradizione.
Lo 'sviluppo' in Concilio Vaticano II ha venuto con Rahneriana teologia.E basa sul battesimo di desiderio ecc essere visibile come il battesimo di aqua.Anche assume erroneamente che questi casi noti di battesimo del desiderio escludono il battesimo dell'acqua nella Chiesa cattolica. Quindi si deduce che c'e 'uno sviluppo della dottrina'. Presunte eccezini per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus come e interpretato Don Leonard Feeney. Quindi tutto non hanno bisogno di essere incorporati nella Chiesa come membri .E la nuova e non tradizionale conclusione.
Questa è la conclusione irrazionale della Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949.Con questa nuova teologia basata su una irrazionalità che molti testi nel Concilio Vaticano II.Questa confusione arriva da questa nuova teologia.La spesso riferito come 'ambiguità' di Concilio Vaticano II.
Le Suore Francescane dell'Immacolata hanno detto che accettano il Concilio Vaticano II senza questa nuova teologia, che è responsabile per la confusione e l'ambiguità nel Concilio Vaticano II.
Loro affermano Concilio Vaticano II, senza ambiguità e in armonia con il vecchio ecclesiologia basata su Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus e che viene respinta da masonaria  ecclesiastica e rabbini ebraica di Sinistra.
Così le suore Francescani dell'Immacolata fedeli alla loro formazione religiosa sarebbe affermare il Sillabo di Errors.No si può dire che il Sillabo non si applica più in presente tempi e che ci sono "sviluppi" nel Concilio Vaticano II. Gli sviluppi sono venuti solo quando tutti assumendo casi ipotetici non sono ipotetici, assumendo Lumen Gentium  16, Lumen Gentium 8 ecc fare riferimento a casi espliciti ed escludere il battesimo di acqua.
Ma non ci sono tali casi in 2016.Praticamente non conosciamo nessuno in quanto tale.
Non esistono casi noti negli ultimi 100 ani.Defatto non si sarebbe potuto visto qualcuno in cielo or terra senza il battesimo di acqua.
Noi esseri umani non possono vedere qualcuno salvato in cielo cosi.Neanche possiamo vedere o incontrare qualcuno sulla terra che saranno salvati fuori della Chiesa, senza la fede cattolica.
Quindi non c'e alcuna ambiguità nel Concilio Vaticano II su questo tema per le suore.
Le Suore Francescane dell'Immacolata dicono 'tutti' ebrei, musulmani e non cristiani hanno bisogno di essere incorporati nella Chiesa con 'la fede e il battesimo' per 'la salvezza' (Ad Gentes 7).Questa è una citazione dal Concilio Vaticano II e non ci sono eccezioni esplicite citati nel testo.Loro citando testi magisteriali. Non è una opinione personale di loro.
Le Suore Francescane dell'Immacolata dicono tutti bisogno di essere membri formali della Chiesa per la salvezza e si può citare Cantate Dominio, Concilio di Firenze 1441 come riferimento- e non ci sono eccezioni note in Concilio Vaticano II.Non sono eccezioni conosciute al Concilio Vaticano II contro l'insegnamenti di Concilio di Firenze su extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Dal momento che hanno eliminato la teologia Rahneriana, hanno evitato l'errore Cushingite che è entrato nella Chiesa con la Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949.Loro sono affermando Feeneyismo chi e tradizionale.San Tommaso d'Aquino e S. Agostino sono stati Feeneyite.Loro sono Feeneyite  quando la loro teologia sul salvezza è interpretato senza la premessa irrazionale per ottenere una conclusione non tradizionale.
Questo significa che tutte le comunità religiose cattoliche, tutti i cattolici, e in grado di affermare il Concilio Vaticano II, senza la premessa e conclusione irrazionale.Concilio Vaticano  è tradizionale.
Significherebbe ecclesiologia non è cambiata prima e dopo Concilio Vaticano II. La Messa Tridentina e la Messa in Italiano ( Novus Ordo) ha la stessa ecclessiologia. Significa anche quei cattolici che hanno sposato non cattolici vivono in adulterio. Il coniuge è al di fuori dell a Chiesa.Loro vivono in peccato mortale.
-Lionel Andrades


The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have set a precedent for all religious communities.They have announced that they accept Vatican Council II without Rahnerian theology.This is extra ordinary. Since they are not denying the Council and neither are they denying Tradition


The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have set a precedent for all religious communities.They have announced that they accept Vatican Council II without Rahnerian theology.This is extra ordinary. Since they are not denying the Council and neither are they denying Tradition including the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They are not accepting Vatican Council II with ' a development'.
The 'development' has come with Rahnerian theology.It is  based on the baptism of desire etc being visible like the baptism of water.It is also wrongly assumed that these known cases of the baptism of desire  exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. Then it is inferred that there is 'a development of doctrine' since Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, now has alleged exceptions. So all do not need to be incorporated into the Church as members is their new and non traditional  conclusion. This was the irrational conclusion of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.So with this new theology based on an irrationality Vatican Council II has many confusing texts.It is from this new theology comes the often reported 'ambiguity' of the Council.
The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have said that they accept Vatican Council II without this new theology, which is responsible for the confusion and ambiguity in Vatican Council II.
They affirm Vatican Council II without ambiguity and in harmony with the old ecclesiology based on Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus and which is rejected by ecclesiastical masonry and the Jewish Left rabbis.
So the Franciscans Sisters of the Immaculate true to their religious formation would affirm the Syllabus of Errors.No one can say that the Syllabus of Errors does not apply any more since there are 'developments' in Vatican Council II. The developments came only by assuming hypothetical cases are not hypothetical, by assuming LG 16, LG 8 etc refer to explicit casesand exclude the baptism of water.
But there are no such such cases in 2016.Practically we do not know any one as such.
There are no such known cases over the last 100 years.De facto know one could have seen someone in Heaven without the baptism of water.
We humans cannot see someone saved in Heaven as such.Neither can we see or meet someone on earth who will be saved outside the Church, without Catholic faith.
So there is no ambiguity in Vatican Council II on this issue for the Sisters.
The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate are saying 'all' Jews, Muslims and other non Christians need to be incorporated into the Church  with 'faith and baptism' for 'salvation'(Ad Gentes 7).This is a citation from Vatican Council II and there are no explicit exceptions mentioned in the Council text.They are citing magisterial texts. It is not a personal opinion of theirs.
The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate are saying all need to be formal members of the Church for salvation and they can cite Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 as a reference and there are no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.There are no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the Council of Florence on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Since they have eliminated Rahnerian theology, they have avoided the Cushingite error which came into the Church with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.They are affirming Feeneyism instead which is traditional.St.Thomas Aquinas and St.Augustine were Feeneyites when their salvation theology is interpreted without the irrational premise  to get a non traditional conclusion.
This means all Catholic religious communities, all Catholics, can affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise and conclusion.The Council is traditional.
It would mean ecclesiology has not changed at the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass. It also means those Catholics who have married non Catholics are living in adultery. Their spouse is outside the Church.They are living in mortal sin.
-Lionel Andrades
November 22, 2016

Ave Maria! The doctrinal issue has been resolved in favour of the SSPX and the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate.No one can fault them theologically or doctrinally.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/ave-maria-doctrinal-issue-has-been.html

November 21, 2016
Can the SSPX accept Vatican Council II like the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate to get canonical status ? : No one tells the pope that he is interpreting Vatican Council II with bad philosophy and bad theology which has now been exposed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/can-sspx-accept-vatican-council-ii-like.html

The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have set a precedent for all religious communities.They have announced that they accept Vatican Council II without Rahnerian theology.This is extra ordinary. Since they are not denying the Council and neither are they denying Tradition


The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have set a precedent for all religious communities.They have announced that they accept Vatican Council II without Rahnerian theology.This is extra ordinary. Since they are not denying the Council and neither are they denying Tradition including the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They are not accepting Vatican Council II with ' a development'.
The 'development' has come with Rahnerian theology.It is  based on the baptism of desire etc being visible like the baptism of water.It is also wrongly assumed that these known cases of the baptism of desire  exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. Then it is inferred that there is 'a development of doctrine' since Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, now has alleged exceptions. So all do not need to be incorporated into the Church as members is their new and non traditional  conclusion. This was the irrational conclusion of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.So with this new theology based on an irrationality Vatican Council II has many confusing texts.It is from this new theology comes the often reported 'ambiguity' of the Council.
The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate have said that they accept Vatican Council II without this new theology, which is responsible for the confusion and ambiguity in Vatican Council II.
They affirm Vatican Council II without ambiguity and in harmony with the old ecclesiology based on Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus and which is rejected by ecclesiastical masonry and the Jewish Left rabbis.
So the Franciscans Sisters of the Immaculate true to their religious formation would affirm the Syllabus of Errors.No one can say that the Syllabus of Errors does not apply any more since there are 'developments' in Vatican Council II. The developments came only by assuming hypothetical cases are not hypothetical, by assuming LG 16, LG 8 etc refer to explicit cases and exclude the baptism of water.
But there are no such such cases in 2016.Practically we do not know any one as such.
There are no such known cases over the last 100 years.De facto know one could have seen someone in Heaven without the baptism of water.
We humans cannot see someone saved in Heaven as such.Neither can we see or meet someone on earth who will be saved outside the Church, without Catholic faith.
So there is no ambiguity in Vatican Council II on this issue for the Sisters.
The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate are saying 'all' Jews, Muslims and other non Christians need to be incorporated into the Church  with 'faith and baptism' for 'salvation'(Ad Gentes 7).This is a citation from Vatican Council II and there are no explicit exceptions mentioned in the Council text.They are citing magisterial texts. It is not a personal opinion of theirs.
The Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate are saying all need to be formal members of the Church for salvation and they can cite Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 as a reference and there are no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.There are no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the Council of Florence on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Since they have eliminated Rahnerian theology, they have avoided the Cushingite error which came into the Church with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.They are affirming Feeneyism instead which is traditional.St.Thomas Aquinas and St.Augustine were Feeneyites when their salvation theology is interpreted without the irrational premise  to get a non traditional conclusion.
This means all Catholic religious communities, all Catholics, can affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise and conclusion.The Council is traditional.
It would mean ecclesiology has not changed at the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass. It also means those Catholics who have married non Catholics are living in adultery. Their spouse is outside the Church.They are living in mortal sin.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 
 
November 22, 2016

Ave Maria! The doctrinal issue has been resolved in favour of the SSPX and the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate.No one can fault them theologically or doctrinally.


November 21, 2016
Can the SSPX accept Vatican Council II like the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate to get canonical status ? : No one tells the pope that he is interpreting Vatican Council II with bad philosophy and bad theology which has now been exposed




http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/can-sspx-accept-vatican-council-ii-like.html
 

July 7, 2014

Asking the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II with an irrational inference violates their conscience : laws in Italy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/asking-franciscans-of-immaculate-to.html
 

 

Can the Franciscans Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate affirm Vatican Council II without this fantasy premise ? No one at the Vatican Press Office wants to answer

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/can-franciscans-friars-and-sisters-of.html#links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/franciscans-of-immaculate-are-not.html#links

Vatican wants the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate to accept this irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/vatican-wants-franciscan-friars-and.html#links

Lombardi says Franciscans of the Immaculate a 'delicate subject' : ignores Vatican's doctrinal ambiguities

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/lombardi-says-franciscans-of-immaculate.html#links