Now a Cushingite dicastery will be formed which will interpret Vatican Council II just like Fr. John Zuhlsdorf.So there will be no basis for traditional mission, which required non Catholics to convert into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell : Michael Voris and David Domet have also caved

On the plane from Abu Dhabi when the pope said that he was following Vatican Council II it was false.There is nothing in Nostra Aetate to contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).The pope did not want to use Feeneyite theology to interpret Vatican Council II.No one was also pushing him to do so.Now a new super dicastery is to be formed which will interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingite theology, instead of the traditional Feeneyite one, and there is no opposition.The cardinals and bishops do not even acknowledge the error .The bloggers and websites are afraid to mention it out of fear of losing their reputation and their media.

After the New Zealand incident David Domet on Vox Cantoris prohibited a discussion of Vatican Council II and EENS interpreted with Feeneyite theology instead of his usual Cushingite one.He also rejected the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

He clearly interpreted Catholic salvation theology with Cushingism.For me there was no difference between Domet and Bishop Robert Barron.Both were correct with the Left in Canada.This is not the fruit of the Traditional Latin Mass but Domet's personal attachment to his blog.It would be the same with the owner of the blog Rorate Caeili and other traditionalist blogs.They do not affirm Vatican Council II and EENS, Feeneyite, to protect their interests.Just as David Domet caved it was the same with Michael Voris.

Michael Voris at Church Militant TV posted an article by Jim Russell,Strange Doctrines of Fr. Feeney.Russel used  Cushingite theology to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS.This is the theology which supports the  condemnation of the St. Benedict Center(SBC) by the Diocese of Manchester and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF). The SBC, Feeneyites,  interpret both Vatican Council II and EENS, with Feeneyite theology.So Michael Voris' visit to the St. Benedict Center and his interview of Brother Andre Marie MICM, was negated with Russell's article.

With that article by Jim Russell, Voris was saying that he is not a Feeneyite and that BOD, BOB and I.I  1 were exceptions to EENS and so was LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, GS 22 etc.2 No one corrected Russell's article.

When he was in the Diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire .Michael Voris was saying outside the Church there is no salvation.He supported Brother Andre Marie for whom BOD, BOB and I.I are not personally known cases and so are not literal exceptions to EENS. Also for Brother Andre Marie invisible cases of LG 16(invincible ignorance) and LG 14( case of the unknown catechumen) etc cannot be personally visible exceptions to EENS. So in the Catechism of the Catholic Church CCC 847 and 848 (invincible ignorance) would also not contradict Feeneyite EENS for Brother Andre Marie.

But when CMTV posted Jim Russell's article they were saying like Russell and the CDF, that BOD, BOB and I.I were exceptions to EENS. They referred to literal cases.They were saying that LG 16, LG 14 etc were exceptions to EENS. They agreed with the Secretaries of the CDF for whom CCC 847 and 848 were exceptions to CCC 846 ( outside the Church no salvation) and EENS.

CMTV in u-turn supported the Left and the CDF with Cushingism and condemned 'the Strange Doctrines' of Fr. Leonard Feeney.Michael Voris supported the use of the  irrational premise and inference of the Cushingites Michael Sean Winters and Jim Russell.

So even if he Michael Voris and the CMTV Staff understood what I keep writing , for political reasons, it was expedient, not to affirm Vatican Council II and EENS with Feeneyism( hypothetical cases are just hypothetical and so are not objective and literal exceptions to EENS).They have to keep their business together and stay above water.

The comments on Michael Voris' videos on the St. Benedict Center, were based on Cushingite Vatican Council II.No  moderator was there to correct them with Feeneyism.

Similarly Cushingite Fr. John Zuhlsdorf will comment on God allowing a pluralism of religions but will  have to say that the BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.God seemingly also allows invisible people to be visible exceptions to EENS.

When they say there are exceptions to EENS in Vatican Council II it is Cushingism.It means Fr. Zuhlsdorf  interprets LG 16( invincible ignorance),LG 14( case of the unknown catechumen) as being literal cases in 2019.They are known people known to him saved outside the Catholic Church. This is Cushingism.

When Fr.Zuhlsdorf was accused by Michael Sean Winters of supporting Fr. Leonard Feeney on EENS he denied it.Since Fr.Z wants to be politically correct with the Left on Vatican Council II and EENS. Cushingism is playing safe.It is being prudent for him.It was the late with the late Mons. Ignacio Barreiro.

The Left knows that the past exclusivist ecclesiology, the ecumenism of return and the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King is all hinged on EENS.So they watch to see if any one important supports it.David Domet possibly got a warning and he went down without a whimper on his blog. Michael Voris tried to appeased the threats probably by posting Russell's article.Remember Voris was once told not to use the word Catholic.The same hate is now directed at the traditionalist St. Benedict Center.None of the Cushingite traditionalists are  supporting them with a Feeneyite interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS.

Now a Cushingite dicastery will be formed  which will interpret Vatican Council II just like Fr. John Zuhlsdorf.So there will be no basis for traditional mission, which required non Catholics to convert into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.Objective reality will presented a new by the Directors of the Offices of Pastoral Mission which will coordinate with the new dicastery..

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I have been an unabashed and flagrant Feeneyite - and enjoyed it.-Lionel Andrades

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BOD(baptism of desire), BOB(baptism of blood) and I.I(invincible ignorance).

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Lumen Gentium 8 ,Lumen Gentium  14, Lumen Gentium 16, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Gaudium et Specs 22 etc

APRIL 20, 2019

Brother Andre Marie MICM has referred to the Sacred Magisterium. However Vatican Council II, Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus are all written with Cushingite philosophy and theology, which creates error. This error is not magisterial    https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/brother-andre-marie-micm-has-referred.html

• Michael Voris at St. Benedict Center(35)

https://fundingmorality.com/project/view/saint-benedict.html

The liberal theologians wrongly projected the baptism of desire etc as an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Comment(awaiting moderation) on the blog Unam Sanctam Catholicam 

St. Ambrose on Baptism of Desire

Yes as a hypothetical case.Something hoped for.

The popes and saints over the years mentioned the case of the unknown cathecumen who desired the baptism of water but died before he received it. It is hoped that he will be in Heaven.

Even Fr. Leonard Feeney accepted the case of the catechumen, his book the Bread of Life shows.

However for the popes and saints there were no visible and personally known cases of the baptism of desire. This is something obvious. Only God can know of such a case if it happened.

Fr. Leonard Feeney too said there were no literal cases of the baptism of desire. This is a given.

However the liberal theologians wrongly projected the baptism of desire etc as an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

So they imply that there are known cases of the baptism of desire for them to be exceptions. Invisible cases of course cannot be exceptions to EENS. So this is irrational.

-Lionel Andrades

 OCTOBER 15, 2018

Who can judge an Emperor Valentinian II today ?https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/who-can-judge-emperor-valentinian-ii.html

  

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 JULY 26, 2018

Repost : Fr.Feeney did not suggest like Ann Barnhardt that invisible cases of the baptism of desire were visible exceptions to the dogma EENS (Graphics)  
  

 

JANUARY 24, 2018

Ann Barnhardt still uses Cushingite theology like the other traditionalists

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/ann-barnhardt-still-uses-cushingite.html

OCTOBER 25, 2017

Louie Verrecchio, Ann Barnhardt, David Domet, the two popes and the CDF Prefect are in heresy : correction and recantation of error needed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/louie-verrecchio-ann-barnhardt-david.html

 SEPTEMBER 19, 2017

Ann Barnhardt, Chris Ferrara's reasoning seem rational but their premises and so inferences are wronghttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/ann-barnhardt-chris-ferraras-reasoning.html

AUGUST 2, 2017

Ann Barnhardt and Eric Gajiewski(Trad Cat Knight) have no denial : they use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II even when they can avoid it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/ann-barnhardt-and-eric-gajiewskitrad.html

JULY 31, 2017

For sedevacantists Eric Gajiewski and Ann Barnhardt LG 16 refers to a visible case and so Vatican Council II contradicts Tradition

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/fpr-sedevacantists-eric-gajiewski-and.html

SEPTEMBER 15, 2016

Ann Barnhardt with a false premise and conclusion misinterprets the Catholic Faith http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/ann-barnhardt-with-false-premise-and.html

Ann Barnhardt is a Catholic even though she violates the Principle of Non Contradiction http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/ann-barnhardt-is-catholic-even-though.html

DECEMBER 18, 2015

Ann Barnhardt interprets magisterial documents with Cushingismhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/ann-barnhardt-is-using-cushingism-to.html

FEBRUARY 7, 2015

There Is No Salvation Outside The Catholic Church (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus) - Ann Barnhardt http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/there-is-no-salvation-outside-catholic.html

MARCH 1, 2017

TradCat Knight and Ann Barnhardt interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism, they use an irrational premise.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/tradcat-knight-and-ann-barnhardt.html















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 JUNE 20, 2016

Prof.Phillip Blosser, a Professor of Philosophy at Musings of a Pertinacious Papist and Tancred at The Eponymous Flower agree with me : hypothetical cases (baptism of desire etc) cannot be explicit for us in 2016

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/profphillip-blosser-professor-of.html

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Lay Catholic woman convinces pope in our times !

     

At 5:37 on the video see Chiara Amirante speak with Pope Francis and see how he is moved.There is such happiness on the pope's face.

What is she telling him? Is she talking about Medugorje? Perhaps not. But she convinced him that Medugorje was good and she believed that the Mother of God was appearing there.

So he told her that he will save Medugorje and soon there will be a new declaration.

A lay woman convinces the pope that his earlier understanding of Medugorje was wrong and he agrees with her.

Remember St. Catherine of Siena did something like this in another century.

-Lionel Andrades

Chiara Amirante: 20 years giving shelter to the homeless

Italian pro-life leader: Catholics must make their voices heard; no compromise on life issues : March for Life in Rome tomorrow

https://www.marciaperlavita.it/en/articoli-aborto-en/italian-pro-life-leader-catholics-must-make-their-voices-heard-no-compromise-on-life-issues/

When the traditionalists and conservatives interpret Vatican Council II without Cushingism then the Council will be ecclesiocentric and not a rupture with Tradition and they can they accept it.

Are you Christocentric or Ecclesiocentric? This could indicate if you are  liberal or orthodox as a Catholic.

The Catholic Church has always been ecclesiocentric.

Christocentric is not wrong or bad.

But traditionally the Church was Christocentric with an ecclesiocentric ecclesiology.It was necessary to believe in Jesus within the Catholic Church for salvation.

This is how the Bible was interpreted ( Mark 16, 16, John 3:5, Matt. 7:13 etc).

At Vatican Council II there were Council Fathers  who were Christocentric and others were Ecclesiocentric.However, today, aside from the liberals even the traditionalists and conservatives interpret Vatican Council II as Christocentric.The liberals accept this interpretation of the Council and the traditionalists reject it.

Cardinal Ratzinger  was Christocentric.Pope John Paul II was ecclesiocentric in Ecclesia di Eucharestia and Ecclesia in Asia.Cardinal Walter Kasper criticized Ecclesia di Eucharestia which did not permit the Eucharist to be given to Orthodox Christians. He said that it supported the old ecclesiology of outside the Church there is no salvation.

In Ecclesia in Asia which Pope John Paul II read out publicly in New Delhi the pope called upon all Hindus and other non Catholics to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.

Fr. Leonard Feeney was an ecclesiocentric and the bishops and cardinals at the Holy Office, the Archdiocese of Boston, along with the Jesuits,  in 1949 were Christocentric.

Those who were Christocentric were not rejecting the Church and those who were ecclesiocentric were not rejecting Christ.

But with Cushingism the liberals could reject traditional ecclesiocentrism and create a rupture with Tradition. They could re-interpret Vatican Council II as being opposed to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)  and so also the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Social Reign of Christ, which were hinged on EENS.

So the real issue still is Cushingism.

Cushingites, who are aware of their error, pretend, that theoretical cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are objective and personally known people. They then conclude that there is known salvation outside the Church. So the New Theology is outside the Church there is salvation.

Since outside the Church there was salvation for the Cushingites at Vatican Council II they produced a Council which was Christocentric.LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are interpreted as personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church. So  no more was there an ecclesiocentric Church for the liberals Ratzinger, Rahner and the others at Vatican Council II.Even though BOD, BOB and I.I were not exceptions to EENS the liberals pretended that they were.They had to fake it.This was done by those who discerned that hypothetical cases never ever were exceptions to EENS.

They piled on more theoretical cases at Vatican Council II - LG 8, UR 3, GS 22  etc - as if it would strengthen their false reasoning.

When the traditionalists and conservatives interpret Vatican Council II without Cushingism, in future,  then the Council will be ecclesiocentric and not a rupture with Tradition and they can they accept it.

-Lionel Andrades

Pope Francis says he is responsible for saving Medugorje - but we have to really thank Chiara Amirante

Pope Francis says he is responsible for saving Medugorje - but we have to really thank Chiara Amirante the founder of Nuovi Orizzonti  who convinced Pope Francis that the Mother of Jesus was really appearing at Medugorje.

 

 

She had spoken to the pope in a series of meetings as a member of pontifical organizations.At one meeting for over an hour she spoke only about Medugorje.

Some six months back Pope Francis told her that he had saved Medugorje and that his 'postman theory' was based upon false information he received from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. who were against Medugorje.

Chiara is our modern day Judith and Esther of the Old Testament.-Lionel Andrades

  May 16, 2019

Chiara Amirante: Pope Francis told me "I saved Medjugorje" 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/05/chiara-amirante-pope-francis-told-me-i.html