Thursday, October 13, 2011

I STILL BELIEVE OUR LADY IS APPEARING AT MEDUGORJE IN A SPECIAL WAY

I have written a few reports on Medugorje recently showing how things don’t add up, with Vicka’s message that most people go to Heaven. It contradicts Vatican Council II, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and The Poem of the Man God by Maria Valtorta, a book that was popularized by Marija one of the visionaries at Medugorje.

Having said that - I would like to say there still is an affection for Our Lady at Medugorje. Her September 2011 message reminds me of the love of a Mother, and how I am loved in a special way by her.

I cannot recount here the great change and conversion in my life after the pilgrimages to Medugorje.

Lionel Andrades

Catholic Culture suggests those who know about the Church and yet do not enter is the only ordinary means of salvation and these cases are known to us


According to Vatican Council II the ordinary means of salvation is Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for all. This is the defacto and explicit means.
False Ecumenism is based on irrational non Catholic interpretations contrary to Vatican Council II, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the statements of popes and saints. It suggests those who know about the Catholic Church and do not enter is the only ordinary means of salvation.It also assumes that these cases are known to us.

Is 'Ecumenism' a Bad Word? by Matt C. Abbott in Catholic Culture suggests ‘they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ’ do not enter it ’(LG 16) is the ordinary means of salvation and the only means of salvation. Catholic Culture also implies that these cases are explicit and we can personally know such cases.

The Catechism quotes Vatican II’s Lumen Gentium on this subject: “Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation…. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or remain in it. This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and His Church” (nn. 846-847).-Abbot,Catholic Culture.
Let us analyse Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.(1)The passages emphasized in yellow tells us that Catholic faith and the baptism of water are the ordinary means of salvation for all. The passages in red mention those who are lost and are known only to God. The passage in green mentions those who can be saved and are known only to God and this passage does not claim that these non Catholics are de facto known to us or that they are exceptions to the passage in yellow or the dogma.The passage in yellow is defacto and that in green is de jure. When we read magisterial texts like the one above we have to use the defacto-dejure distinction otherwise there will be confusion. If you consider the passage in green as defacto it would contradict the passage in yellow.


Here is Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II analysed in the same way (2).The text  emphasized in yellow tells us that Catholic faith and the baptism of water are the ordinary means of salvation for all. The passage in red mentions those who are lost and are known only to God. The passage in green mentions those who can be saved and are known only to God and this passage does not claim that these non Catholics are de facto known to us or that they are exceptions to the passage in yellow or the dogma.
 The passage in yellow is defacto and that in green is de jure. When we read magisterial texts like the one above we have to use the defacto-dejure distinction otherwise there will be confusion. If you consider the passage in green as defacto it would contradict the passage in yellow.
Catholics seminarians who study Philosophy for two years are taught the Principle of Non Contradiction and are familiar with the defacto-dejure logic. If the passage in green is defacto and explicitly known to us as Catholic Culture,Trinity Communications and EWTN suggest, it would contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction. Even a Catholic layman would know that this is irrational. -Lionel Andrades
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14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart… Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own...



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7. This missionary activity derives its reason from the will of God, "who wishes all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, Himself a man, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself as a ransom for all" (1 Tim. 2:45), "neither is there salvation in any other" (Acts 4:12). Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6), yet a necessity lies upon the Church (1 Cor. 9:16), and at the same time a sacred duty, to preach the Gospel. And hence missionary activity today as always retains its power and necessity…

CATHOLIC CULTURE SUGGESTS THOSE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE OR THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE ARE EXPLICITLY KNOWN

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/catholic-culture-suggests-that-those.html


MEDUGORJE BANS BOOK IN WHICH JESUS SAYS CHURCH IS NEGLECTING MISSION AND PROCLAIMING THE GOSPEL TO PROTECT ITS PROPERTY AND INTERESTS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/medugorje-bans-book-in-which-jesus-says.html


LEGIONARY OF CHRIST PRIEST FR.RAFAEL PASCUAL AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/legionary-of-christ-priest-frrafael.html