Tuesday, April 21, 2015

Bishop Arturo Cepeda, Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools,Detroit has no denial : he agrees an irrationality is taught to Catholic school children

Bishop Arturo Cepeda is the Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools.  There is no denial from him to the last blog post which I e-mailed him .1 He  agrees with what I have written.School children in the Archdiocese of Detroit have to use an irrational premise and inference when interpreting Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Catholic school children have to infer :-

1. We human beings can physically see the dead in Heaven.

2. We can know someone in Heaven in the present times who is there without 'faith and baptism'.

So they are taught to infer that the baptism of desire and being saved in inculpable ignorance are exceptions to the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Every one in April 2015 in Detroit, Michigan does not need to formally enter the Catholic Church for salvation.Since there are known exceptions for them.
They are also taught that for Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger,  as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith the baptism of water was not always necessary for salvation and 'God is not limited to the Sacraments.'(Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257).
So the children in Detroit have to infer that for Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI this was the reasoning:-

1. We human beings including the popes, can physically see the dead in Heaven.(Otherwise how could there be exceptions?)

2. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger knew someone in Heaven during the time he was working on the Catechism of the Catholic Church, who was there without 'faith and baptism' and this case was personally known to him.(So it became an explicit exception for him)

Then they are also told that for Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani in the famous case of the American priest from Boston, Fr.Leonard Feeney,  also believed the dead are visible in the present times and that we can tell who will be saved without the baptism of water.
For him too, like the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Cushing, there were known exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church.
Bishop Arturo Cepeda
Now Bishop Arturo Cepeda Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools, nominated by Archbishop Allen Vignon, the Archbishop of Detroit, agrees that this is the reasoning taught to Catholic students in America, including those in Detroit.
He does not deny that this reasoning is not rational.It is the standard reasoning in schools in Detroit.
-Lionel Andrades 

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School children in the Archdiocese of Detroit have to use an irrationality to interpret Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/school-children-in-archdiocese-of.html

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From the Archdiocese of Detroit website.

Schools

Catholic Schools at the Archdiocese of Detroit integrate faith and values into every part of the educational experience. Whether in the classroom, on the athletic field or in chapel, our students learn to think and act according to the mind and heart of Jesus Christ.
We provide a second home for students where morals and values are supported by educators who also serve as role models in faith.
Catholic School students are challenged to achieve their full potential as academics. Data shows our students score higher on standardized tests than their public-school counterparts. Nearly all Catholic School students move on to attend college.
Our goal is to educate students wholly, in mind, body and spirit. We offer that through solid academics, after-school activities and opportunities to worship and practice the faith. A Catholic education gives students a strong foundation as members of society and the Catholic community.http://www.aod.org/schools/

Catholic Schools at the Archdiocese of Detroit integrate faith and values into every part of the educational experience
Lionel: Faith means denying the traditional interpretation of the dogma sextra ecclesiam nulla salus since  allegedly there are known exceptions. There are people in Heaven saved without 'faith and baptism'. These people who did not need to become formal members of the Catholic Church are known and visible in the present times, it is reasoned.

and act according to the mind and heart of Jesus Christ.
Lionel: For centuries the strict interpretation of the dogma was taught in Catholic education based on John 3:6 and Mark 16:16.This was part of the mind and heart of Jesus Christ as the Holy Spirit taught the Church.

...values are supported by educators who also serve as role models in faith.
Lionel: Even the faculty at the major seminary in Detroit use this irrational reasoning to reject the traditional intepretation of the dogma.Even Catholic Militant TV in Detroit uses  this irrational reasoning to reject the traditional dogma and to re interpret Vatican Council II with an irrationality.