Bishop Fellay remains part of the conspiracy on Vatican Council II.

 

Bishop Bernard Fellay expelled Bishop Richard Williamson and Fr. Florian Abrahamowich to avoid the Anti-Semitic charge against him and the SSPX. So he never affirmed the Fourth Lateran Council (1215)  which did not mention any exceptions, for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which it defined. Now even after being informed, he still interprets Vatican Council II irrationally, to produce ‘fake exceptions’ for the ecclesiocentrism of the Church. He is supporting liberal doctrines on mission, salvation, ecumenism etc and so is not labeled Anti-Semitic.

In Rome quote a few priests, diocesan and religious, have affirmed the dogma EENS according to the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X but when I quoted them on this blog and this came to the attention of the Rome Vicariate and the Vatican, they were threatened with expulsion. This was during the pontificate of Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict.

One of them was a former Salesian Rector of the basilican of the Sacred Heart in front of Termini, Rome. He was following St. John Bosco on there being exclusive salvation in the Church based upon the traditional interpretation of the Bible.

Now Bishop Fellay pleases the liberals and the Masons when he interprets Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition. If he interpreted them rationally and said Vatican Council II has continuity with the past Councils and Creeds, it would be opposed by the Left. Pope Francis will declare him legally not a Catholic. The SSPX will have to expel him or lose their status as a charitable organization with tax exemptions for donors. So Bishop Fellay remains part of the conspiracy on Vatican Council II.  - Lionel Andrades

Church Militant TV and the SSPX are intentionally changing Church doctrine and choosing liberalism created with a False Premise and Inference. In this way with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally, they do not have to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So then they cannot be charged under vague Anti-Semitic laws supported by the Vatican.

 

Church Militant TV and the SSPX are intentionally changing Church doctrine and choosing liberalism created with a False Premise and Inference. In this way with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally, they do not have to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So then they cannot be charged under vague Anti-Semitic laws supported by the Vatican. They maintain their status as charitable organisations and donations are tax exempt.

BISHOP PETER LIBASCI IN NEW HAMPSHIRE

 It is the same for Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop’ of Manchester in the New Hampshire, USA. He is protecting Church property by interpreting the Councils, Creeds and Catechisms dishonestly. This is the policy approved by the Left for the Catholic Church. So a Decree of Prohibitions cannot be issued against Bishop Peter Libasci, his judicial Vicar, Fr. Georges de Laire and the Chancellor.

NO DENIAL FROM CMTV AND SSPX

There is no denial from Bradley Eli and Christine Niles regarding what I write here. Nor is there a denial from the SSPX in Rome or the USA.

JOHN HENRY WESTON ALSO POLIIICAL ON VATICAN COUNCIL II

This is also the policy on Vatican Council II being

followed by John Henry Weston, Editor in Chief at Life Site News.  - Lionel Andrades

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My theology is different from the liberals and the SSPX leadership, since I interpret Vatican Council II rationally.I do not have to choose between Tradition and the Council interpreted irrationally. I do not have to choose between hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire and the strict intrerpretation of EENS. I can have it both ways.

 

My theology is different from the liberals and the SSPX leadership, since I interpret Vatican Council II rationally.I do not have to choose between Tradition and the  Council interpreted irrationally. I do not have to choose between hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire and the strict intrerpretation of EENS. I can have it both ways.

 I accept the Council and do not use the Fake Premise. So I can go for Mass at the SSPX chapel and also the main line Catholic churches in Italy.My theology is not a break with the ecclesiology of the 1962 Missal.

When a new magisterium is created by interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally, I have to reject it. It cannot be magisterial when a false premise is chosen.

When the New Missal is supported by Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally then I have to reject it. Since it does not support the Church’s ecclesiocentric ecclesiology.

The Mass is still the un-bloody Sacrifice of Jesus, irrespective…In the mainline churches some priests do not approve the Eucharist being received kneeling and on the tongue. In this case I do not receive the Eucharist and make a Spiritual Communion.

This is how it was for over a year during Covid, at Mass in Italian in Rome.  - Lionel Andrades

Now even the Judges of the Vatican’s Supreme Tribunal are interpreting the Council dishonestly and there is no comment from Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider, since they do not want to expose themselves.

 

Cardinal Raymond Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schnedier are not interpreting Vatican Council II rationally to avoid being accused of being Anti-Semitic and being expelled from the Catholic Church.

So they kept silent when a Decree of Prohibitions was issued against the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire. With their silence they support theological division in the Catholic Church. For political reasons they have to use the fake premise to interpret the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms.

If they interpret the Council rationally the Left will demand that they be expelled or ex-communicated. Since they would be saying outside the Church there is no salvation is the teaching of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

 Now even the Judges of the Vatican’s Supreme Tribunal are interpreting the Council dishonestly and there is no comment from Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider, since they do not want to expose themselves. - Lionel Andrades

APRIL 2, 2023

I have said it before. Everyone agrees with me

I have said it before. Everyone agrees with me.

At Holy Mass in Italian or Latin everyone agrees with me. I could show them these three charts and they all will agree with me.

1)         Salvation  Badge (extended)

2)       Invisible cases in Vatican Council II.

3) Exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church today.

So they are all Feeneyite on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). They support, as Catholics, the dogma EENS defined by the Fourth Lateran Council (1215),the Council of Florence, Cantate Domino (1442), the Catechism of Pius X and the other catechisms, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX, Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church of Pope John Paul II, interpreted rationally.

They would all agree with me at the Latin Mass at the SSPX chapel in Rome or the Salesian basilica of the Sacred Heart, Termini, Rome. They would agree with me at the Paulist Fathers’ church of St. Patrick, for the American community in Rome. It would be the same at the Daughters of St. Paul book shop near the Vatican and the FSSP church in Rome.

So irrespective if they used the 1962 Missal or the New Missal they would agree with me on these three documents above.

Why? Since I am saying something obvious. It is common knowledge. It is common sense. It is a philosophical observation. It is something physically see by all people irrespective of their theology or religion. So even Pope Francis and all the cardinals and bishops would have to agree with me. All.

The whole Church is really saying the same

thing as me. There is no division on this issue.

This is not a personal view only. It is

everyone’s view. Even the cardinals and

bishops at the Vatican agree with me. - Lionel Andrades

 

          1.           SALVATION BADGE (Extended)

FUORI DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA 

NON C’E SALVEZZA

(OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION)

GIOV.3:5, MC.16:16

(JOHN 3:5, MARK 16:16)

CONCILIO VATICANO II (AG7/LG14)

(VATICAN COUNCIL II (Ad Gentes 7/ Lumen Gentes 14)

CATECHISMO DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA (846)

(CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 846)

CATECHISMO DEL TRENTO, CATECHISMO DEL PAPA PIO X,

(CATECHISM OF TRENT, CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X)

CONCILIO LATERANO (1215), CONCILIO DI FIRENZE (1442)

(FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL (1215), COUNCIL OF FLORENCE (1442))

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IL BATTESIMO DI DESIDERIO (BOD), IL BATTESIMO DI SANGUE (BOB) E L'ESSERE SALVATI NELL'INVINCIBILE IGNORANZA (I.I) SONO SEMPRE CASI IPOTETICI E FISICAMENTE INVISIBILI. QUINDI NON CONTRADIDONO IL DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS (EENS).IL BOD, BOB E I.I NON SONO PERSONE CONOSCIUTE NEI CASI PERSONALI. NON CI SONO CASI FISICAMENTE VISIBILI DI ESSERE SALVATI NELL'INVINCIBILE IGNORANZA. QUINDI NON SONO ECCEZIONI OGGETTIVE PER IL DOGMA EENS NEL 1965-2023.AD GENTES 7 E LUMEN GENTIUM 14 SOSTENGONO IL DOGMA EENS .LG 8,14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ETC NON SONO ECCEZIONI PRATICHE PER AG 7/ LG 14 E IL DOGMA EENS. IL CONCILIO HA L'ERMENEUTICA DELLA CONTINUITÀ CON IL PROGRAMMA DEGLI ERRORI, IL CREDO DI ATANASIO E IL CATECHISMO DI PAPA PIO X (24Q,27Q).

THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE (BOD), BAPTISM OF BLOOD(BOB) AND BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE (I.I) ARE ALWAYS HYPOTHETICAL AND PHYSICALLY INVISIBLE CASES. SO THEY DO NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS (EENS).THE BOD, BOB AND I.I ARE  NOT KNOWN PEOPLE IN PERSONAL CASES. THERE ARE NO PHYSICALLY VISIBLE CASES OF BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE.SO THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EENS IN 1965-2023.AD GENTES 7 AND LUMEN GENTIUM 14 SUPPORT THE DOGMA EENS .LG 8,14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ETC ARE NOT PRACTICAL EXCEPTIONS FOR  AG 7/ LG 14 AND THE DOGMA EENS. THE COUNCIL HAS THE HERMENEUTIC OF CONTINUITY WITH THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X ( 24Q,27Q).

SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA   ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

       2.           INVISIBLE CASES

THESE ARE REFERENCES TO INVISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS OF POPE PIUS IX.

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

     

2.CASI INVISIBILE

(LG8,LG14,GS 22, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2 etc)

QUESTI SONO RIFERIMENTI A CASI INVISIBILI NEL 2023. NON SONO ESEMPI VISIBILI DI SALVEZZA FUORI DALLA CHIESA. NON SONO ECCEZIONI OGGETTIVE PER IL DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, IL CREDO DI ATANASIO E IL SILLABO  DEGLI ERRORI DI PAPA PIO IX.

Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II.

Questa Chiesa, in questo mondo costituita e organizzata come società, sussiste nella Chiesa cattolica, governata dal successore di Pietro e dai vescovi in comunione con lui [13], ancorché al di fuori del suo organismo si trovino parecchi elementi di santificazione e di verità, che, appartenendo propriamente per dono di Dio alla Chiesa di Cristo, spingono verso l'unità cattolica. -  Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II.

Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.

I catecumeni che per impulso dello Spirito Santo desiderano ed espressamente vogliono essere incorporati alla Chiesa, vengono ad essa congiunti da questo stesso desiderio, e la madre Chiesa li avvolge come già suoi con il proprio amore e con le proprie cure.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.

Gaudium et Specs 22

E ciò vale non solamente per i cristiani, ma anche per tutti gli uomini di buona volontà, nel cui cuore lavora invisibilmente la grazia (39). Cristo, infatti, è morto per tutti (40) e la vocazione ultima dell'uomo è effettivamente una sola, quella divina; perciò dobbiamo ritenere che lo Spirito Santo dia a tutti la possibilità di venire associati, nel modo che Dio conosce, al mistero pasquale.-Gaudium et Specs 22

3. EXCLUSIVE SALVATION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY

14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism124 and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church…- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 845-846

845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.- Catechism of the Catholic Church

 846 …Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door…

 Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.-Athanasius Creed

 Fourth Lateran Council (1215): "There is but one  universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved."

ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH   SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA

 SALVEZZA ESCLUSIVA NELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA

14. Il santo Concilio si rivolge quindi prima di tutto ai fedeli cattolici. Esso, basandosi sulla sacra Scrittura e sulla tradizione, insegna che questa Chiesa peregrinante è necessaria alla salvezza. Solo il Cristo, infatti, presente in mezzo a noi nel suo corpo che è la Chiesa, è il mediatore e la via della salvezza; ora egli stesso, inculcando espressamente la necessità della fede e del battesimo (cfr. Gv 3,5), ha nello stesso tempo confermato la necessità della Chiesa, nella quale gli uomini entrano per il battesimo come per una porta. Perciò non possono salvarsi quegli uomini, i quali, pur non ignorando che la Chiesa cattolica è stata fondata da Dio per mezzo di Gesù Cristo come necessaria, non vorranno entrare in essa o in essa perseverare.-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

È dunque necessario che tutti si convertano al Cristo conosciuto attraverso la predicazione della Chiesa, ed a lui e alla Chiesa, suo corpo, siano incorporati attraverso il battesimo (39). Cristo stesso infatti, « ribadendo espressamente la necessità della fede e del battesimo (cfr. Mc 16,16; Gv 3,5), ha confermato simultaneamente la necessità della Chiesa, nella quale gli uomini entrano, per così dire, attraverso la porta del battesimo.- Ad Gentes 7, Concilio Vaticano II.

 

CATECHISMO DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA 845-846

845 Proprio per riunire di nuovo tutti i suoi figli, dispersi e sviati dal peccato, il Padre ha voluto convocare l'intera umanità nella Chiesa del Figlio suo. La Chiesa è il luogo in cui l'umanità deve ritrovare l'unità e la salvezza. È il « mondo riconciliato ». È la nave che, « pleno dominicae crucis velo Sancti Spiritus flatu in hoc bene navigat mundo – spiegate le vele della croce del Signore al soffio dello Spirito Santo, naviga sicura in questo mondo »; secondo un'altra immagine, cara ai Padri della Chiesa, è l'arca di Noè che, sola, salva dal diluvio. 

«Fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza»

846 Come bisogna intendere questa affermazione spesso ripetuta dai Padri della Chiesa? Formulata in modo positivo, significa che ogni salvezza viene da Cristo-Capo per mezzo della Chiesa che è il suo corpo:

Il santo Concilio « insegna, appoggiandosi sulla Sacra Scrittura e sulla Tradizione, che questa Chiesa pellegrinante è necessaria alla salvezza. Infatti solo Cristo, presente per noi nel suo corpo, che è la Chiesa, è il Mediatore e la Via della salvezza; ora egli, inculcando espressamente la necessità della fede e del Battesimo, ha insieme confermato la necessità della Chiesa, nella quale gli uomini entrano mediante il Battesimo come per la porta. Perciò non potrebbero salvarsi quegli uomini, i quali, non ignorando che la Chiesa cattolica è stata da Dio per mezzo di Gesù Cristo fondata come necessaria, non avessero tuttavia voluto entrare in essa o in essa perseverare”.- Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica 845-846

Chiunque si salverà, prima di tutto è necessario che abbia la fede Cattolica. Quale fede, a meno che ognuno non si mantenga integro e incontaminato, senza dubbio perirà in eterno. - Athanasius Creed

Non c'è ma una Chiesa universale dei fedeli, al di fuori della quale nessuno si salva". - Concilio Lateranense IV (1215)

MARCH 19, 2023

Without the Boston Heresy of Pope Pius XII, Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits - the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) could interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/03/without-boston-heresy-of-pope-pius-xii.html