Wednesday, August 7, 2013

The traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney is the de fide teaching of the Church after Vatican Council II

In Faithful Answers next installment on extra ecclesiam nulla salus  Ryan Grant is expected  to use the unofficial, popular interpretation of the magisterium, to criticize Fr.Leonard Feeney. He will not use the official teaching of the Catholic Church , based on magisterial texts, without the Cushing Error.If he uses the official teaching of the Catholic Church, he would discover , that the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney (with no visible to us baptism of desire) is the official de fide teaching of the Church ,before and after Vatican Council II.
It is because Ryan Grant assumes the baptism of desire  is explicit in particular  cases  he will criticize Fr.Leonard Feenety in the next write up.
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Also in the process he will change the Nicene Creed to say 'I believe in three known baptisms' and the Athanasius Creed to 'Outside the Church there is known salvation'.He will interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846) and Vatican Council II(AG 7) as a break with Sacred Tradition and Fr.Leonard Feeney.
 
It would mean he would also be free to say that all non Catholics (Christians Iincluded) in the present time do need to  enter the Church for salvation, since he could allegedly name an exception.
 
In the next installment he will say that not all  Protestants in 2013 need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation since there could be, or there are,  some saved with the baptism of desire, as if he could name them.He will write another vague piece, as he did in  the first one, and its important for him, that no one consider him Feeenyite!-since he really is not one.He vaguely supports the dogma with plenty of contradictions.
Faithful Answers is still in line with EWTN, Catholic Answers ,CUF etc on extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 
-Lionel Andrades  
 
 

Michael Voris asks Protestants to convert into the Church

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It would help Protestants if Michael Voris would say there are no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus  and so there is no ambiguity in the Council on the issue of other religions , an ecumenism of return and the need for a Catholic political state.-L.A

A false Profession of Faith is being made by Catholic religious all over the world.

Under the Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life ,Vatican, when a religious says "I believe in the Holy Catholic Church" he or she means , a Church which is a break with the priest Fr.Leonard Feeney and the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra eccleisam nulla salus. So the understanding of Church(ecclesiology) has been changed.

 












The Catholic priest or nun is now saying as would  Cardinal Joao Braz de Aviz   and  Archbishop José Rodríguez Carballo, President and Secretary respectively of the Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, "I believe in known salvation outside the Church in the present times , so I believe in the Catholic Church, in which every one does not need to enter for salvation'.
 
When the cardinal  or bishop says   "I believe in the Holy Spirit..." ,he means 'I believe in the Holy Spirit which guides the Catholic Magisterium to teach that there is known salvation outside the Church in the present  times and so every one with no exception does not need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation, as it was taught by the Holy Spirit for centuries in the Church'.
 
 So this is a change in our understanding of the Nicene Creed, before and after the 1940's.

 If you would ask a priest who has recited the Nicene Creed,  to name some one in 2013, who does not need to enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) it would draw a blank. There would be no answer.
 
So this is a false Profession of Faith based on an irrationality; on being able to see the dead who are exceptions to Tradition.

There is only one known baptism, which is visible and repeatable, the baptism of water. However in general the members of the Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life ,Vatican, assume there are three known bapisms, water, desire and blood. The baptisms of desire and blood are possibilities but not known exceptions which we can identify in 2013, as we could the baptism of water.
 
For many priests and nuns there are even more baptisms: seeds of the Word (AG 11) , imperfect communionwith the Church(UR 3) etc.
 
 The new Governor General of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate Fr. P. Fidenzio Volpi O.F.M. Cap. will also make this false Profession of Faith. Since he will assume that there are known exceptions to Fr.Leonard Feeney's interpretation of the salvation dogma.He will reject an ecumenism of return and will expect  the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the  Immaculate to do the same. Fr.Volpi would consider this 'being in step with the Church'.A Church in public heresy.He will have changed the meaning of the Creed.
 
Since knowingly or unknownly like other religious , he assumes can name non Catholics saved in 2013 who are not visible members of the Church,this must lead to a  'theology of religions'. In the interpretation of Vatican Council II and in inter religious  dialogue he will expect Fr.Stefano Manelli's community, to accept a 'theology of religions' which is being taught by priests and nuns at  Pontifical universities and seminaries. They would  do mission having to believe that other religions are equal paths to salvation.
 

The Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life ,Vatican members will not affirm the traditional intepretation of outside the Church there is no salvation according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.

 In inter-religious dialogue they say every one needs to enter the Church except for those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.They will not say that the Church is the ordinary means of salvation (Redemptoris Missio 55) and that every one with no known exception in the present times , needs to enter the Church visibly, to avoid Hell.

This is the official teaching of the  Catholic Chruch, according to magisterial documents, interpreted without the Richard  Cushing Error. Instead, they will use the unofficial, popular interpretation of magisterial texts, using the  Cushing  premise of being able to see the dead-saved  who are exceptions to the interpretation of Fr.Leonard  Feeney.
 
 Today, in general Catholic religious, Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life ,Vatican,  are making a Profesion of Faith, in which the meaning  has been changed of 'church'  and the 'Holy Spirit' with an irrartionality.
-Lionel Andrades





SSPX (USA) Angelus Press Conference to use the unofficial instead of the official teaching of the Cathol

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/08/sspx-usa-angelus-press-conference-to.html#linksic Church

Who am I?

I am a Catholic, a Roman Catholic , I believe in Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Ten Commandments.Pope Francis is my pope and Pope John Paul II my favourite. I accept the baptism of desire  as a possibility, known only to God. I reject the baptism of desire as being explicit and known to us in the present times.I accept the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, according to Fr.Leonard Feeney and his present day communities.I believe this is the official teaching of the Catholic Church, before and after Vatican Council II. I can support my position with reference to Magisterial texts.
 I am in agreement with the schismatics  CMRI and MHFM  with their traditional interpretation of the thrice defined dogma on exclusive salvation in only the Catholic  Church.There can be only one rational and traditional interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.
 
I  affirm the Nicene Creed ( one known baptism only and not three known baptisms) and the Athanasius Creed ( outside the Church there is no known  salvation).
I accept the official teaching of the Church, in agreement with the magisterial documents and without the Richard Cushing interpretation.I   reject the unofficial teaching of the Catholic Church, the popular one with the Richard Cushing premise of being able to see the dead on earth who are known exceptions to Fr.Leonard Feeney and Tradition.I affirm Vatican Council II in agreement with Fr.Leonard Feeney and not Richard Cushing.
This, is who I am.
Lionel Andrades.