Thursday, June 8, 2017

Demon of homosexuality will not have this man -Benny Hinn

(34:43) Demon of homsexuality will not have this man -Benny Hinn

Mayor Virginia Raggi is doing nothing about the deception and dishonesty at secular and religioius educational institutions in Rome

Image result for photo of Rome mayor Virginia Raggi at Vatican


The Vatican is asking priests at Albano, Rome to say invisible people are visible.The Vatican is saying that there are people saved in invincible ignorance, they are saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and these invisible cases are not invisible but visible and they are exceptions to all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation. It is only when the Italian priests at Albano accept this irrationality that they will be recognized by the Vatican and their situation will be regularized.Students have also to  repeat this lie at universities in Rome to be admitted as students or even to enter the premises.
So they have to accept Lumen Gentium 16, Lumen Gentium 8, Nostra Aetate 2,Gaudium et Spes 22 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to not invisible but visible people, known people in 2017 and so in this way Vatican Council II becomes a rupture with Tradition.Once the priests in Albano accept this dishonesty they will be granted canonical status by the Vatican.This is dishonesty. Even by secular standards it is  unethical.
Why must these Italian priests and their lay supporters be put through this unethical exercise?
They are being forced to accept this lie to be given a personal prelature in the Catholic Church.

SECULAR UNIVERSITIES IN ROME UNETHICAL
Similarly Italian Catholic students who  study secular/canon law in Jurisprudence at universities in Rome have to repeat this nonsensical reasoning, in their exams and then they will receive an academic degree.This is not professional.I had written about this to Mayor Virginia Raggi some three months back but she did not comment.1.

MAYOR APPROVES OF FALSEHOOOD TAUGHT IN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS
Rome has a Mayor who approves of homosexual weddings.She approves of thousands of Italian babies killed through abortion in Rome's hospitals.She approves of professors and students in Jurisprudence saying that they can see people on earth saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire ,without the baptism of water, and so membership in the Church is not necessary for salvation; there is known salvation outside the Catholic Church.This is how they interpret Vatican Council II and then say that the  Church has changed its teachings on exclusive salvation.
This is official deception.It is official cheating.I don't know if it is illegal in Rome.

MAYOR NEEDS TO CLARIFY
1.The Mayor, as a rational person, even if she is not a practising Catholic,should clarify that we cannot physically see people in Heaven, saved with or without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
2.We cannot physically see people on earth saved with the baptism of desire or blood or in invincible ignorance - all without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
3.The Mayor could clarify that there was no known case of salvation outside the Church, no practical case,since if there was such a case it could only be known to God.So educational  institutions in Rome should not teach that these cases are practically known to us human  beings.

STUDENTS NOT ALLOWD TO ENTER EDUCATIONAL PREMISES
Catholic students in Rome who would refuse to parrot this lie would be discriminated against.They would not be allowed to study in Rome's educational institutions.This has been my personal experience at the Legion of Christ university, Universita Regina Apostolorum and also the Pontifical Beda College, the English seminary for late vocations, in front of the of Basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls.

PROFESSORS HAVE TO LIE OR THEY WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS
The Legion of Christ priests and professors, have to repeat this lie and deceive students , otherwise they will lose their jobs at UPRA, Rome.
Similarly the professors and students at the Beda Pontifical College have to claim that they can see people in Heaven, saved outside the Church or they will not be given permission to teach.Since if they do not repeat this irrationality and lie they would be implying  that there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, there are only Catholics in Heaven and they are there with 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II).This orthodoxy would not be accepted by the English 'magisterium'.
At the Beda College and the Regina Apostolorum university students who do not repeat this irrationality, who do not lie, are not allowed to enter the premises.They are prohibited by the respective Rectors from physically entering the educational premises.

PROHIBITION AT UNIVERSITIES
Non Catholics can visit or attend courses at UPRA and the Beda but not Catholics who refuse to say that they can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.It is obligatory for all who enter these premises to say there are known cases of people in Heaven or on earth saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) even though there are no such cases.Invisible people cannot be visible on earth.Yet those who do not repeat this deception would be saying that there is no known salvation outside the Church and so every one needs to be a 'card carrying member' of the Catholic Church for salvation.This is prohibited.

IRRESPONSIBLE ACADEMIC BEHAVIOUR IN ROME
How can the Mayor continue to allow this even after she has been informed ? How can she expect responsible citizenship  when she allows this irresponsible academic behaviour in secular and pontifical universities , including seminaries for men and women in Rome ?
-Lionel Andrades

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MARCH 6, 2017

Colin B. Donovan interprets magisterial documents with irrational Cushingism : rupture with the past


Response of Colin B. Donovan STL, Lay Apologist at EWTN to Warren Goddard



Mr. Goddard has created a strawman which he then demolishes. The doctrine of invincible ignorance remains, as it must. It is as much a part of the Tradition as is Extra Ecclesia - whose meaning was well expounded by Cardinal Ratzinger in Dominus Iesus of 2000. What is important is God's knowledge of the culpability, not man's assumption of it.
Lionel:  I , Lionel, accept the doctrine of invincible ignorance(Feeneyite) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite).
I reject the new doctrine of invincible ignorance ( Cushingite) and the new version of outside the Church there is no salvation ( Cushingite).
For me invincible ignorance ( Feeneyite) refers to a hypothetical case it is not a visible and known person in 2017. Similarly there are no known exceptions of invincible ignorance to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite) in 2017.This is reality.Invisible cases cannot be visible exceptions to all needing to be members of the Church for salvation in 2017.
Also there could be no known case in the past of people visible in Heaven who are there without the baptism of water. Nor could any one know in the past of someone who will be saved without being a member of the Catholic Church.
Colin B.Donovan affirms invincible ignorance( Cushingite) and outside the church there is no salvation( Cushingite). So his reasoning is irrational and upon this irrationality( invisible cases are visible and they are exceptions to EENS) he supports a new theology.
Without this irrational interpretation I can affirm both invincible ignorance and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Cardinal Ratzinger was a Cushingite.he was in magisterial heresy. He was opposing and contradicting the magisterium of the past. He confirmed it in March 2016 when the said that there was a development with Vatican Council II (Cushingite) and EENS(Cushingite) was no more like it was(EENS Feeenyite) for the 16th century missionaries.
However the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus defined by three Church Councils indicates all non Catholics are on the way to Hell, they are culpable for eternal death with Original Sin and mortal sins committed in this state, unless before death on earth they formally enter the Church. Vatican Council II ( AG 7) has the same message when it says all need faith and baptism for salvation.
Similarly the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1257) says that the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water.For me there are no known exceptions of someone saved outside the Church, since 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'. So CCC 1257 affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and there are no exceptions.
So I am affirming Vatican Council II, EENS, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and invincible ignorance all interpreted with Feeneyism instead of the irrational Cushingism which is magisterial.I am not in schism or heresy.



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Pius IX points to that, and so does the Church today.
Lionel: It depends upon how Pius IX is interpreted; with Feeneyism ( invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance are not visible exceptions to EENS) or withCushingism( invisible cases of invincible ignorance are visible exceptions to EENS).
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We no longer attribute formal moral culpability simply by knowing someone has materially heard the truth of the faith. Hearing and knowing, and thus moral culpability are different things. Both moral theology and canon law (including ALL pre-Vatican II teaching) acknowledges this. It's of the essence of Pius IX's statement, as well, that there are both physical and moral impossibilities to observance of positive law - whether materially not having heard the Gospel, or morally being strongly disposed against it by family or religious prejudices.
Lionel: This is all theoretical and speculative. The point is that there are no exceptions to the dogma EENS, there never were any, this was a mistake of the magisterium.
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Many such people eventually come into the Church, when they realize, as Ven. Fulton Sheen often noted, they did not so much disbelieve in the Church as they disbelieved in a bad caricature of the Church.



But, yes, a time comes that acquaintance with the Gospel and with the Church overcomes even the moral obstacles of conscience and becomes first natural belief in the claims of Christ and the Church, and through baptism, supernatural faith.
Lionel: This may be true but it is not relevant to the issue which is: invincible ignorance was never an exception to the dogma EENS. To assume that it is is false philosophy and theology.
Lumen Gentium 16( invinicble ignorance) is not an exception to the dogma EENS for me, it would be an exception to EENS for the two popes and the EWTN apologists
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When that time comes, the individual's own conscience calls them to adhere to the truth and they can no longer claim any obstacle, whether from physical or moral causes.
Lionel: This is speaking in general and with good will. We have no problem with this.However when Warren Goddard reasons that invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma EENS he is correct. There are no practical exceptions to EENS known to Colin B. Donovan. He cannot name any one over the last ten years or this year, who has been saved without 'faith and baptism' or will be saved as such. There are no practical exceptions! So how can he imply that being saved in invincible ignorance is an exception or even relevant to EENS? Lionel Andrades



Mr. Colin B. Donovan, STL
Vice President for Theology
EWTN Global Catholic Network
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Colin B. Donovan, STL is Vice President for Theology at EWTN. A layman, he has the Licentiate in Sacred Theology, with a specialization in moral theology, from the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum) in Rome, where he wrote on the Donation of the Spouses in Marriage. He earned the BTh from the Seminary of Christ the King in Mission, British Columbia, Canada and the BA in Biological Science from Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois. Prior to coming to EWTN in 1995, he taught Theology at Aquinas College in Nashville.