That the teaching "Outside the Church there is no
redemption salavation"(has been) changed is what you [and Feeneyism?] say. The Church has never and can never change that teaching.
There is an extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Cushingite) and there is an extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite).
Cushingism assumes there are known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as known to the 16th century missionaries.
Feeneyism says there are no known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS and the baptism of desire or blood or being saved in invincible ignorance are hypothetical cases and so they cannot be exceptions to EENS in the first place.
This is Cushingism and Feeneyism according to me.
Lionel: This interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in the Catechism of the Catholic Church N.846 is a Cushingite interpretation.It assumes the baptism of desire etc are explicit and so are relevant to EENS.
It does not directly say that all need to enter the Church with no exceptions. Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger were Cushingite.
"Outside the Church there is no salvation"
CCC 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Lionel: The Feeneyite interpretation of N.846 would say all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body and this does not negate all needing to be formal members of the Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14) for salvation.___________________________________
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
Lionel: The Feeneyite interpretation of this passage from Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II would say that the passage in blue is not contradicted by the passage in red. The passage in red refers to hypothetical cases.So they are not exceptions to the Feneeyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or the passage in blue.___________________________________
CCC 847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
CCC 848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."
Lionel: The Feeneyite interpretation would say CCC 847 and CCC 848 are irrelevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and should not have been mentioned here or in Vatican Council II.They refer to invisible cases in our reality. They never were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So we have a Cushingite interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846).Since CCC 846,847 and 848 suggest hypothetical cases can be relevant or exceptions to all needing faith and baptism for salvation.This is why it was mentioned.
However CCC 846 with the citation from Ad Gentes 7 can be interpreted as Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus and there is no ambiguity since there are no explicit cases of being saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire without the baptism of water.
Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1995) affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.-Lionel Andrades