The average Catholic school boy at Religion Class can be shown that Vatican Council II is Feeneyite. It does not contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). -Lionel Andrades
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The average Catholic school boy at Religion Class can be shown that Vatican Council II is Feeneyite. It does not contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). -Lionel Andrades
So what if you think Pope Benedict is the pope and not Pope Francis, they both are interpreting Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms with a false premise to create a rupture with the teachings on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church e.g Catechism of Pope Pius X (24 Q,27 Q), Athanasius Creed etc. This would be heresy according to the past Magisterium. It is schism with the past popes on EENS, Nicene Creed etc. The Lefebvrists, Thucs and liberals are making the same heretical and schismatic mistake as the present two popes.. -Lionel Andrades
I am affirming the Catholic Faith. I am not saying unknown people are known exceptions to 16th century EENS. I am not saying invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance are visible exceptions to an ecumenism of return.
I am not denying the Faith by interpreting Magisterial documents with a false premise as do the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the present two popes.
So when the Profession of Faith was recited at Mass in Italian today the priest and myself had two different interpretations. He was using the false premise to interpret the Nicene Creed and I was avoiding it. -Lionel Andrades
The false premise creates that ideology which keeps the Church ' in step ' with a corrupt world and out of step with the Bible, Tradition and the past Magisterium.-Lionel Andrades
The German bishops say outside the Church there is no salvation. If they did not use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II they would then have to say outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. -Lionel Andrades
Fr.Francesco Giordano's Profession of Faith is different from mine.He is a Cushingite and I am a Feeneyite.At the Human Life International , they are Cushingites like the liberals in Florida,USA.
At the Angelicum University, Rome where he teaches the faculty are Cushingites too. So there is the expected hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.
The Mass he offers in Latin or Italian is licit for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Congregation for Divine Worship and is doctrinally approved since it is the official heresy and schism . It is created with the false premise used by Fr. Giordano. The false premise is the foundation of the New Theology, which I call Cushingism.
The Lefebvrists and liberals would wrongly call Fr. Giordano's Mass, the Traditional Latin Mass.
Ecclesiastical Masonry too would approve of the Holy Mass of Fr. Giordano as being valid and licit.It would also be authentic and fitting for Peter Kwasniewski. - Lionel Andrades
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-four-qualities-of-liturgy-validity.html
Lex orandi, lex credendi ! Officially the beliefs of the ecclesiastics at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the two popes is a rupture with Tradition. It is caused by the false premise which they use to change the meaning of Magisterial documents.
So even the understanding of the First Commandment is Cushingite and not Feeneyite.
Their interpretation of the Creeds and Catechisms is Cushingite and not Feeneyite, like it was over the past centuries.
So the Holy Mass which Cardinal Ladaria, Archbishop Morandi and Archbishop Di Noia offer is heretical and schismatic but it is licit and fitting for Peter Kwasniewski. It is worship with false beliefs.. -Lionel Andrades
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-four-qualities-of-liturgy-validity.html
If the SSPX would announce that they accept Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise their Mass would be doctrinally licit for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Congregation for Divine Liturgy, Pope Benedict, Pope Francis,cardinals and bishops and Peter Kwasniewski. -Lionel Andrades
The Mass of Kiko Arguello's New Catechumenal Way is licit since the priest is Christocentric and not Ecclesiocentric like at the Traditional Latin Mass of the 16th century. The Mass of the Way is licit for the Vatican and it would also be licit and authentic for Peter Kwasniewski.. -Lionel Andrades
Without heresy and schism created with the New Theology a priest is not allowed to offer Holy Mass in any Rite. -Lionel Andrades
Michael Matt attends Mass in Latin at a church in the USA where the priest accepts Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise and he also re-interprets the Creeds and Catechisms non traditionally. This is approved by the USCCB.They consider this Mass licit and without impediments even though the theology is heretical and schismatic and a rupture with the ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century and also the Byzantine Greek Mass of the third century. For Peter Kwasniewski this is authentic and fitting liturgy. -Lionel Andrades
The Rome Vicariate only grants incardination to liberal priests who reject the dogma EENS and interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and so change the meaning of the Nicene Creed. With the false premise they are also rejecting the the Athanasius Creed.They interpret all the Catechisms with the false premise creating heresy and schism. The Mass of these priests is considered licit. They would meet Peter Kwasniewski's critieria for explaining the Liturgy.Priests who offer the Latin Mass are also granted incardination when they meet the heretical and schismatic doctrinal requirements.-Lionel Andrades
Pope Francis, Pope Benedict, the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith determine the licitness of Holy Mass and all the members of these congregations , like the popes, are rejecting the traditional interpretation of the Creeds and are only permitting the Mass to be offered with the heretical and schismatic doctrinal impediment. -Lionel Andrades
The Legion of Christ priests at the University Pontifical Regina Apostolorum chapel, Rome, offer the Novus Ordo Italian and Latin Mass.They do not want to affirm the dogma EENS and so they change the interpretation of Vatican Council II with a false premise and reject the Athanasius Creed.This Mass is licit for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Congregation for Divine Worship.But the SSPX Mass in Latin is not licit for the Vatican.Since doctrinally the SSPX interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise ( like the Legion of Christ) and then rejects the non traditional conclusion.The two popes want them to continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise but to accept the non traditional conclusion.. -Lionel Andrades
An FSSP priest could offer the Novus Ordo Mass in Italian and interpret the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II without the false premise and so there would not be a change in the First Commandment while another FSSP priest could offer the Latin Mass while intepreting the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II with the false premise creating first class heresy and an impediment to offering Holy Mass.This Latin Mass would still be valid, licit, fitting and authentic for Peter Kwasniewski.. -Lionel Andrades
When the FSSP priest rejects the Athanasiius Creed and changes the understanding of the Nicene and Apostles Creed it is an impediment to offering Holy Mass, for example, at the church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini, Rome.
Yet for Peter Kwasniewski this Mass in Latin could be valid, licit , fitting and authentic. - Lionel Andrades
http://roma.fssp.it/
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-four-qualities-of-liturgy-validity.html
Peter Kwasniewski considers Holy Mass valid, licit , fitting and authentic when the priest and congregation change the traditional interpretation of the Creeds , Catechisms and interpret also Vatican Council II with a false premise.This break with Tradition and the resulting heresy and schism officially approved by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the popes, is valid, licit , fitting and authentic for him. -Lionel Andrades
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-four-qualities-of-liturgy-validity.html
The Catholic Identity Conference did not proclaim the Faith. They gave us Vatican Council II with ideology.So they remain non controversial and can have another conference next year, which will not be opposed.They interpreted the Council like the liberals and are not affirming Vatican Council II in harmony with Feeneyite EENS. -Lionel Andrades
Peter Kwasniewski even after being informed will not interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise. LG 16 refers to invisible or visible cases in 2020 for him ? No answer.
LG 8 in Vatican Council II refers to an objective person or a hypothetical case in 2020 for him ? No answer.
Could he interpret theoretical cases of UR 3 as not contradicting the old ecumenism of return ? No answer.
He does not want to answer. -Lionel Andrades
The traditionalist Internet Forums are interpreting Vatican Council II with the false premise of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (LOHO) since they believe that Pope Pius XII would not have made a mistake and he was the last of the great popes. But Pope Pius XII over looked the mistake in LOHO. LOHO assumed unknown cases of the baptism of desire and theoretical and hypothetical cases of being saved in invincible ignorance were objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS.
This was his objective mistake which was repeated at Vatican Council II. . -Lionel Andrades
As long as the false premise is used to interpret Vatican Council II, traditionalists (Lefebvrists/Thucs) will be discriminated against.Since Vatican Council II will be cited by the liberals to support liberalism. This creates the division between liberals and traditionalists.Without the false premise, liberals cannot quote Vatican Council II to support their liberalism. Without the false premise the traditionalists cannot quote Vatican Council II as a break with Tradition. -Lionel Andrades