Monday, October 2, 2017

Pope Francis repeats in principle error in Amoris Laetitia : believes we humans can judge exceptions to moral and salvation teachings of the Church

Francis argues that Catholics in a new union after a divorce should not be “pigeonholed.” 
Lionel:
The norm is set by Jesus in the Bible.
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Rather, he prefers that they and their pastors undergo a process of discernment. After discernment, he says, some of the divorced and civilly remarried can more fully integrate into Christian communities.
Lionel: He is saying that we can tell when someone in manifest mortal sin is not a mortal sin.This is false.
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 Francis rejects uniform enforcement of rules because he says that not all persons in irregular unions are equally culpable.
Lionel: He is again saying that there are known exceptions of Catholics in mortal sin who will not be going to Hell.
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 “Discernment can recognize that in a particular situation no grave fault exist,” he argues, adding that “it cannot be said” that all persons in irregular unions are “living in a state of mortal sin and are deprived of sanctifying grace.”
Lionel:Again he is saying that we can judge in particular cases exceptions to Jesus' teachings on morals, when really it is only Jesus who can know who will be saved or not.The Church guided by the Holy Spirit has always said that those living in adultery are on the way to Hell. They are in mortal sin.
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 In some complex situations, he maintains, such persons will recognize in good conscience, along with their pastor, that they are doing what they can even without fully meeting the gospel’s demands.
Lionel: Again this is false there is no way of saying that any particular Catholic living in mortal sin is not going to Hell if he dies immediately without absolution in the Confessional.A divorced and remarried Catholic has also to change his lifestyle.
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 Francis goes on to offer that acceptance of their situation may be what God is asking of them at the time. Francis concludes that sacraments, including the Eucharist, or Holy Communion, may aid people in some irregular situations
Lionel: Again he is saying that we can judge exceptions to the general rule on morals and mortal sin. This is false.We humans cannot judge exceptions.
The same error is made by  Pope Francis is salvation theology. He assumed that we can judge in personal cases non Catholics saved outside the Church with the baptism of desire etc. This is false.We do not know of any practical exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
This was the mistake made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. It was repeated in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and now Pope Francis has used the in principle error in Amoris Laetitia.
With similar reasoning thousands of marriages have been broken up with superficial annulment theories.-Lionel Andrades
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452066/catholic-church-doctrine-pope-francis-amoris-laetitia-%20filial-correction-scholars-four-cardinals-dubia-divorce-remarriage-communion

Two popes and cardinals have made an in principle mistake in faith and morals : physically invisible is visible

POPES AND CARDINALS HAVE MADE AN IN PRINCIPLE MISTAKE IN FAITH AND MORALS.
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Pope Francis and Cardinal Burke have made an in principle mistake in faith and morals since we cannot judge exceptions to the general rule on mortal sin and exclusive salvation.

MORALS/MORTAL SIN

We cannot say that any particular couple who is living in concubinage is living as a brother and sister. This is something only God can know.
We cannot tell a couple who are divorced and remarried that they are not in mortal sin since they are following their conscience.
In principle we cannot physically know of any exception to the general teaching on mortal sin.



SALVATION/FAITH
Similarly we cannot say that every one in the USA or Italy does not need to be a member of the Catholic Church since there could be exceptions of the baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance.None of us can know of someone who will be saved or is saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance etc and without the baptism of water. So there can be no physical exceptions known to us to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which says every one needs to be incorporated into the Church as a member to avoid Hell ( for salvation).



However for the two popes and Cardinal Burke ( and all the other cardinals) in principle what is unknown is known, in principle what is physically invisible is visible, in principle what is only known to God in Heaven is also known in personal cases to us human beings on earth. This is philosophical cheating.
No where does St. Thomas Aquinas state that we know of people who are going to be saved in mortal sin. There could be diverse cases and different situations but only God can say that someone will be an exception and will not be going to Hell.-Lionel Andrades

Cardinal Burke has made an in principle mistake in faith and morals since we cannot judge exceptions to the general rule on mortal sin and exclusive salvation

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Pope Francis named Cardinal Raymond Burke on September 30 a member of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura 
Lionel:
Cardinal Raymond Burke does not have to refuse the nomination.

He needs to clarify that we cannot use Philosophical Subjectivism in the interpretation of faith and morals. We cannot change Catholic salvation and moral theology with the Obfuscation Principle.
The mistake he and Dr.Joseph Shaw are making is that they assume there are known cases of couples divorced and remarried who are living as brothers and sisters; who are living chaste.If there were - this would not be known to us. So they are not exceptions or relevant to the traditional moral teaching on mortal sin.
Neither can we know the conscience of any particular person in manifest mortal sin, to say that the person is an exception.
We cannot apply the three conditions of mortal sin to any one in manifest mortal sin and then state that the person is not in mortal sin. The three conditions can only be known to God.So mentioning them in the Catechism was part of the Obfuscation Principle.
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He needs to pick up the issue from here i.e we cannot judge in general or particular cases when someone who objectively appears to be heading for Hell, is really not.There are not personally known exceptions to the norm on morals and faith(salvation).
If he repeats the message of the 63-plus scholars it would simply be brushed aside by Pope Francis, as he did recently in Columbia.1
He then needs to affirm the traditional teaching on faith and morals. He would have to affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and continue to express himself clearly as he does (on abortion for example) when people in manifest mortal sin,are breaking the moral law with their life style.2

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Pope Francis has supported the Obfuscation Principle in the interpretation of Catholic morals and salvation. The confusion is there in his statement in Columbia on Amoris Laetitia being Thomistic.



The Obfuscation Principle is mixing up what cannot be known as being known, it is a false reasoning. It's subterfuge.It is philophical subterfuge used to change the traditional doctrines of the Catholic Church.
He rejects traditional exclusivist salvation in the Catholic Church by assuming unknown cases of the baptism of desire etc are known and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.So they become examples of salvation outside the Church when there are no such cases in real life.There are no practical exceptions in 2017 to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Similarly he rejects the traditional teachings of Jesus on morals by assuming there are known exceptions.For him there are known cases of Catholics living in mortal sin who will not be going to Hell, or, after Amoris Laetitia, who can be given the Eucharist, for example, the divorced and remarried.
This is similar to cardinals Ratzinger and Schonborg in the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) mention the three conditions of mortal sin which can only be known to God.So there is confusion on mortal sin.

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In either case, faith(salvation) and morals, there are no known exceptions in the present times to the traditional teachings of the Church, since we simply cannot see people in Heaven.If there was an exception it would only be known to God.
However with the Obfuscation Principle, the two popes can pretend that in principle what is unknown is known, in principle what is physically invisible is visible, in principle what is only known to God in Heaven is also known in personal cases to us human beings on earth. This is philosophical cheating.
Outside the Church there is no salvation and all non Catholics in 2017 are oriented to Hell unless they are incorporated into the Church as members and similarly all divorced and remarried couples are living in mortal sin unless they change their life style and receive absolution in the Confessional.There is no confusion here.
There was confusion when the Church wrongly excommunicated Fr. Leonard Feeney who would not accept exceptions to the dogma EENS based on the Obfuscation Principle.Invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance could not be visible cases for him. The Church wrongly excommunicated Archbishop Lefebvre for not accepting Vatican Council II interpreted with the Obfuscation Principle and now in Columbia Pope Francis approved the excommunication of Professor José Galat, former rector of the La Gran Colombia University and founder and owner of the television station Teleamiga.There was a time when Cardinal Bergoglio also criticised the pope in public and no one called for his excommunication.
Pope Francis approves the Eucharist being given in general to the married and divorced in Germany, Malta, Italy and other countries.No one says he is in heresy and so is automatically excommunicated.
So there is now a new morality.Docrine has been changed by the two living popes by using an irrationality in faith and morals.If as Catholics we avoid this irrationality we can theologically return to the past ecclesiology, in faith(salvation) and morals.
As Catholics we have a moral obligation to avoid the Obfuscation Principle.-Lionel Andrades

The issue is Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and they don't know: Cardinal Burke on SSPX schism

The issue is Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
The SSPX has to simply affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and reject the Vatican Council II (Cushingite) which is accepted by the Vatican and Cardinal Raymond Burke. The SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II(Cushingite).
Then it cannot be said that they are in schism.
Instead they should ask the two popes and Cardinal Burke to accept Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) instead of Vatican Council II( Cushingite) otherwise they would be in heresy.
Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) is in harmony with the old ecclesiology of the Church, so there would be no change for the SSPX on the issue of ecumenism and outside the Church there being no salvation.
With the old ecclesiology intact theologically there would be no basis for the Vatican supporting the new theology and salvation outside the Church.-
Lionel Andrades
https://www.gloria.tv/article/ERfFBn9GES4s2D2pS7huFDrcv

Hugh Hefner is howling in Hell : Fr.Longenecker's Amoris Laetitia morality is not sure


Fr.Dwight Longenecker is not sure if Hugh Hefner is in Hell since a few moments before he died he could have repented he writes.1For me this is the Amoris Laetitia new morality.
Hugh Hefner
For Fr.Longenecker the norm is not Jesus' teaching on adultery,fornication and sexual immorality but a theoretical possibility which is made an exception.An unknown factor is considered a known exception to the Biblical norm.So he cannot outright say that Hefner is in Hell.
For me Hugh Hefner is in Hell and if it would theoretically be assumed that he is not, this would be known only to God.So it is not an exception when I say that Hefner is in Hell based on the teachings of the Catholic Church or morals which cannot be changed.
Hugh Hefner is in Hell. The Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit makes me say this.It is not because I can judge.
Fr.Longenecker does not know if Hefner repented while the Bible and Sacred Tradition indicate that his lifestyle and work leads to Hell.
So why is Hugh Hefner an exception for Longenecker?
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It is like Ann Barnhardt saying everyone needs to enter the Church for salvation and outside the Church there is no salvation but if anyone at the last moment before death repents....
What has this to do with the norm? Outside the Church there is no salvation and there are no exceptions for us human beings.She cannot know of any non Catholic who has been or would be saved outside the Church since at the last moment...
Image result for Photos of Fr.Dwight LongeneckerSimilarly Fr.Dwight  Longenecker cannot know of any one living in manifest mortal sin , like Hefner,who will be, or is, an exception to the general Judeo-Christian norm.

THE NORM
9 Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers:
10 Nor the effeminate nor liers with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor railers nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God-1Cor.6:9

Adultery

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 
28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 
29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Divorce

31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’

32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.-Matt.5:27-32
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After Vatican Council II theoretical possibilities; hypothetical speculation was considered to be personally known people, who were exceptions to the traditional teaching on faith and morals.
So in moral theology different types of theoretical possibilities and permutations were put forward as being examples of exceptions to Jesus' teachings on morals.It is as if we could know of some exception in real life .With this ruse the moral theology of St. Alphonsus Ligouri and St. Thomas Aquinas was put away.It was the usual-invisible people are visible exceptions to traditional moral theology.
Similarly in salvation theology for Fr.Longenecker invisible for us cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible examples of non Catholics saved outside the Church, even though there is no such person known in our reality.
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With this Obfuscation Principle 2 the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 condemned Fr. Leonard Feeney and rejected the traditional strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).So last year Pope Benedict assumed that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.He said there was 'a development' with Vatican Council II.He meant invisible for us cases of LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc were visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 2016.This is the new irrational salvation theology which he supported.This is a new concept of faith. A new doctrine.
Cardinal Ratzinger in the Catechism also supported the new morality based on hypothetical possibilities being an important reason to reject the old morality.So his Catechism mentions three conditions for mortal sin which really can only be judged by God.So it causes confusion on mortal sin.
The outward action indicates the interior sin, we can judge by externals says Pope John Paul II in his encyclical on moral theology, Veritatis Splendor. A mortal sin is always a mortal sin. 
Hugh Hefner's outward action indicates he is howling in Hell today. 3
Similarly a divorced and remarried couple is living in manifest mortal sin and are on the way to Hell if they should die immediately.Their life style is a scandal, especially for the young.
In Germany, Italy, Malta and other countries in general they give the Eucharist to Catholics living in mortal sin.This is sacrilegious communion at Mass which is approved by Pope Francis and is inspired by Amoris Laetitia.4
Even if there was a young couple in concubinage who were living as brother and sister it would not be known to us.Unknown couples living together as brothers and sisters are not the Catholic moral norm and nor are they known exceptions to the traditional teachings of the Church on concubinage being a mortal sin.
If there is a young couple living in concubinage they can be judged to be in mortal sin, even if the Parish Priest has not seen them in the sexual act.The Parish Priest cannot judge that all young people living in concubinage are living as brothers and sisters and so they could be given the Eucharist.
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The couple living in concubinage or the divorced and remarried couple are in mortal sin. This is the general teaching of the Church.Hoped for possibilities cannot be exceptions.
This is how Jesus will judge these couples at the Particular and Final Judgment.We know this through the Holy Spirit which has guided the Church over the centuries.This is not the teaching of Church,however, guided by the popes Francis and Benedict.It is not the moral theology being taught at Catholic universities today.It is the past moral theology for ecclesiastical Masonry who are trying to undo it with Amortis Laetitia and Pope Francis' teaching on conscience.-Lionel Andrades

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Is Hugh Hefner in Hell?
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2017/09/hugh-hefner-hell.html


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SEPTEMBER 30, 2017


Pope Francis supports the Obfuscation Principle in the interpretation of Catholic morals and salvation : correction needed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/pope-francis-supports-obfuscation.html

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 SEPTEMBER 26, 2017


Amoris Laetitia supports a mortal sin in morals and the 63 scholars like the two popes, support a mortal sin of faith

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/amoris-laetitia-supports-mortal-sin-in.html

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/what-this-atheist-saw-in-hell-is.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/search/label/Hell