Tuesday, October 31, 2017

Vatican-Lutheran Joint Declaration on Justification was null since the Catholic side rejected the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and wrongly re-interpreted Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS

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The Vatican-Lutheran Joint Declaration on Justification was null since the Catholic side rejected the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) by wrongly re-interpreting Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS.Vatican Council II was wrongly interpreted by assuming hypothetical cases were non hypothetical, so theoretical references like LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc were considered non theoretical, but  explicit and personally known.People saved outside the Church.
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Without this irrationality, Vatican Council II, without the premise would not contradict the dogma EENS which mentions Protestants, Lutherans( heretics) as going to the fires of Hell, unless they enter the Church as members(Cantate Dominino, Council of Florence 1441).
Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict had interpreted Vatican Council II with a hermeneutic of rupture.Since for him there was known salvation outside the Church. The baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance referred to visible people who were saved outside the Church.So Pope Benedict rejected the dogma EENS making the Declaration null for Catholics.
According to EENS( premise-free) and Vatican Council II( premise-free) Lutherans are on the way to Hell.They do not have justification or sanctifying grace.They are outside the Mystical Body of Christ.-Lionel Andrades



 OCTOBER 31, 2017

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Blog page views for today are 10,067 : PADRE PIO SAID THAT MARTIN LUTHER IS IN HELL AND CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL MEET THE SAME END- Fr.Stefano Manelli F.I, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/blog-page-views-for-today-are-10067.html

ROSARY PROTEST MEMBER SPEAKS OUT

Rosary Protest Member Speaks Out

BRUSSELS (ChurchMilitant.com) - A video that Church Militant shared on Monday shows a dozen Catholics praying the Rosary to disrupt an "ecumenical" Protestant service in the Cathedral of St. Michael and St. Gudula. The protesters interrupted the service for 40 minutes until they were removed from the cathedral by police. 
The Rosary protest was on Saturday. After our report on Monday, one of the protesters started emailing us with his story. He wished to remain anonymous. 
He explained how the protest Rosary was organized by a local group of Catholic young men. He said, "We have here in Brussels a small group of men gathering together to pray and strengthen our Catholic identity." 
The protester also wrote, "We were in part inspired by The Catholic Gentleman, and I also listen to your Resistance podcasts for some good advice, of course. I'm a regular viewer of ChurchMilitant.com content." 
He later added that following Church Militant was helping him work on his English. 
We have here in Brussels a small group of men gathering together to pray and strengthen our Catholic identity.Tweet
We asked our source about the age range of the people who prayed the Rosary in the video since most of them looked surprisingly young.
He answered, "Among the young-looking people in the video, ages range between 15–30. So indeed, most of us are in our 20s." 
Church Militant expressed interest in the protesters' treatment from the police. He told us that police officers took them out of the cathedral, lined them up along the cathedral's outer wall and checked their IDs. After talking with them about their reasons for protesting, the officers did not press any charges.
"Then the chief policeman in charge said that we were free," our source said, "and that if we stayed around the cathedral or if we continued to distribute our leaflets in the neighborhood, we would be under arrest." 
They took that warning to heart, the young man told us, "And we walked away." 
Then the chief policeman in charge said that we were free and that if we stayed around the cathedral or if we continued to distribute our leaflets in the neighborhood, we would be under arrest.Tweet
In Monday's article, Church Militant noted that the event was covered by Medias-Presse, a French-language Catholic website which seems to have a schismatic twist. Our source told us Tuesday, "We are not schismatics, and we are not related to Medias-Presse. We have nothing to do with that website."
He informed us, "The news was first published on Le Salon Beige," a French Catholic website that our source claims is comparable to Church Militant. 
The young man went on:
We don't appreciate at all the remarks made by Medias-Presse, stating that we "had to act without support of the local traditional clergy." They know nothing about it. We didn't even ask for the participation of priests because the response we had to make was so obvious, and it's the special duty of the laity to defend our faith in these sorts of circumstances (as Bp. Gracida said, for example). We didn't do it in a spirit of polemics towards faithful priests, just in a spirit of reparation and resistance against profanation and celebration of a revolt against the Holy Catholic Church. 
Mainstream Catholic news agency CathoBel advertised the event as ecumenical; but our source counters that it was "in no way just 'ecumenical,' but plainly Protestant." It was a Protestant worship service, he claimed, led by Protestant pastors in their versions of liturgical garb.
He noted that the archbishop of Brussels, Cdl. Jozef De Kesel, "was assisting at the event as an external spectator and hosting it in the cathedral, but he was in no way in charge, presiding or leading the ceremony." 
After police removed the protesting Catholics praying the Rosary, Protestant pastor Steven Fuite gave his sermon. After that, Cdl. De Kesel engaged in a ceremonial exchange of books with Fuite, as CathoBel reported. The point of the gesture, Fuite says, was to show that Protestants and Catholics should read each other's books "instead of burning them." 
The Catholic Belgian website also slammed the protesters praying the Rosary, saying they were "probably from the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X." Our anonymous source strongly denies this allegation, as was quoted above. 
The Cathedral of St. Michael and St. Gudula in Brussels was seized and sacked by Protestant iconoclasts in 1566. It was elevated to the status of co-cathedral in 1962. 

David Nussman
David Nussman is an intern with the News Department.






https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/rosary-protest-member-speaks-out

Blog page views for today are 10,067 : PADRE PIO SAID THAT MARTIN LUTHER IS IN HELL AND CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL MEET THE SAME END- Fr.Stefano Manelli F.I, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate

Today this blog has received 10,067 page views.The  statistics for yesterday was 467 page views and for last month it was 25,942 page views.The extra ordinary spike I think is due to this blog post of 2013.

JANUARY 28, 2013


PADRE PIO SAID THAT MARTIN LUTHER IS IN HELL AND CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL MEET THE SAME END- Fr.Stefano Manelli F.I, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/padre-pio-said-that-martin-luther-is-in.html


It is 16.15 here and I have not posted anything today.
The other two blog posts which could have been read  were the following two reports.

OCTOBER 30, 2017


Double- speak continues with Ecclesia Dei and the CDF : Vatican Council II is not the real issue for the SSPX reconciliation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/double-speak-continues-with-ecclesia.html


OCTOBER 30, 2017



Two popes must ask Franciscans, Domincians, Jesuits, Benedictines, Carmelites and other religious organisations and lay movements to affirm Vatican Council II (premise-free) and then do it themselves

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/two-popes-must-ask-franciscans.html

-Lionel Andrades

SSPX must be aware of the deception of Abp.Guido Pozzo and confront it


Archbishop Guido Pozzo was promoting deception and lies in the negotiations with the SSPX on their canonical recognition.
1.He wanted them to affirm the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) as referring to physically visible and known people saved outside the Church.
2.The SSPX had to affirm LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to physically visible and personally known people saved outside the Church.
So points 1 and 2 above emerge as a rupture with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This is how the Jewish Left would like it.
So he, cardinals Muller and Ladaria  and Pope Benedict  are not going to let the SSPX enter the Church with BOD, BOB,I.I,LG 16,UR 3 etc referring to physically invisible people.There are no practical exceptions to the dogma EENS or the missionaries and magisterium of the 16th century.This is something obvious  but the CDF hides it. 
Archbishop Guido Pozzo, with this irrational philosophy ,was also rejecting the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church and the Syllabus of Errors.At the same time in interviews he was saying Vatican Council II is a continuity with Tradition.
Now when I say that I affirm Vatican Council II( premise-free) with LG 16 etc referring to hypothetical and theoretical cases only, he has nothing to say. He could have consulted with the two popes and cardinals Muller and Ladaria,and they have decided that this is rational, traditional but un-acceptable.SSPX cannot be allowed to affirm Vatican Council II(premise-free) for canonical status.
Archbishop Guido Pozzo is part of the CDF 'gang'.They all have to think alike.
All along Archbishop Guido Pozzo had been deceiving Catholics with the support of the two popes  and the liberal rabbis associated with Israel and the B'nai Brith.
Instead of making it easier for the SSPX to enter the Church, by asking all religious communities to affirm EENS without the explicit-implicit,objective-subjective, visible-invisible mix up, the talks have ended and now permission will be sought from the Bishops Conferences, which are obliged to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise, to create a rupture with Tradition.
The Chief Rabbinate of Israel will not give the two popes permission to affirm the dogma EENS.So Vatican Council II the Catechism and the Nicene Creed have to be interpreted with hypothetical cases being considered non hypothetical.Cardinal Raymond Burke, FSSP, St.Benedict Centres,CMTV, Jesuits, Franciscans and Dominicans  are all already doing this. They have compromised.
The SSPX must be aware of the deception of Archbishop Guido Pozzo and the two popes.
They must continue to stand by their 2012 General Chapter Statement which affirmed EENS without the possibility of salvation outside the Church.
Now they must affirm Vatican Council II with LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc as referring to hypothetical cases, theoretical possibilities known only to God.They cannot be anything else.They cannot be known people saved outside the Church for us humans.
With Vatican Council II not having any exception to the dogma EENS( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441) we are back to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.
With the old exclusivist ecclesiology intact there can only be an ecumenism of return.Lutherans need to convert into the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell.The Syllabus of Errors is no more contradicted.
We can proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation, since this becomes a priority, with no known salvation outside the Church.
Since everyone needs to be a member of the Church for salvation(AG 7, LG 14) the priority is the non separation of Church and State.
Inter faith marriages would be adultery, since Protestants and Jews are outside the Church and on the way to Hell.
All this happens when the SSPX switches from visible for us Lumen Gentium 16 to invisible for us LG 16 and informs Archbishop Guido Pozzo about this.Of course he will reject it, if he wants to keep his job as Secretary of Ecclesia Dei.
Catholics however would then be aware of the deception of the CDF/Ecclesia Dei and how an injustice is being done to the SSPX for political reasons and doctrine and Vatican Council II was never an issue.
Catholic religious organizations, communities and movements on their own can affirm Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical. They can then affirm Vatican Council II and EENS( premise-free). It is rational,traditional and non heretical.-Lionel Andrades


OCTOBER 30, 2017

Double- speak continues with Ecclesia Dei and the CDF : Vatican Council II is not the real issue for the SSPX reconciliation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/double-speak-continues-with-ecclesia.html

OCTOBER 30, 2017

Two popes must ask Franciscans, Domincians, Jesuits, Benedictines, Carmelites and other religious organisations and lay movements to affirm Vatican Council II (premise-free) and then do it themselves
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/two-popes-must-ask-franciscans.html

 OCTOBER 24, 2017


Someone needs to help Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, Archbishop Pozzo and Archbishop Di Noia see how they use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council IIhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/someone-needs-to-help-cardinal-luiz.html

OCTOBER 23, 2017

Still no denial from Abp.Guido Pozzo : SSPX must accept Vatican Council II with a false doctrine and the new theology based on an irrational premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/still-no-denial-from-abpguido-pozzo.html

OCTOBER 20, 2017
No denial from Archbishop Guido Pozzo : he uses an irrational premise to reject the past exclusivist ecclesiology, the Syllabus of Errors and Vatican Council II(premise-free)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/no-denial-from-archbishop-guido-pozzo.html

OCTOBER 12, 2017
Five months and no concrete dialogue between the SSPX and Ecclesia Dei on Vatican Council II (premise-free) and EENS(premise-free)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/five-months-and-no-dialogue-between.html