Bro. Andre Marie MICM in the video refers to speculative and practical theology in the interpretation of EENS. Most Catholics confuse the two when they interpret Vatican Council II. They confuse what is speculative as being practical.So hypothetical LG 8, LG 16 become practical exceptions to EENS.-Lionel Andrades
Sunday, October 4, 2020
Karl Keating converted into the liberal Catholic Church. He was not aware of the false premise every one was using to interpret Vatican Council II
Karl Keating converted into the liberal Catholic Church. He was not aware of the false premise every one was using to interpret Vatican Council II. -Lionel Andrades
Archbishop Lefebvre was a liberal when he interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise
Archbishop Lefebvre was a liberal when he interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise. -Lionel Andrades
I have never changed. I have preached and done what the Church has always taught.I have never changed what the Church said in the Council of Trent and the First Vatican Council II.So who has changed ? It is the enermy...- Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
Lionel: The change was made by Pope Pius XII and Archbishop Lefebvre in the Boston Heresy Case which they both accepted.It was not Cardinal Cushing who was in heresy for them but Fr. Leonard Feeney.
They assumed hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance were objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS.
Then they re-interpreted BOD and I.I in the Council of Trent ,the Catechism of Pope Pius X etc, as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church.So visible exceptions to traditional EENS emerged.
So the Church now had EENS Cushingite i.e EENS with BOD and I.I being exceptions.This was the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which was accepted by Bishop Lefebvre.
Over the centuries it was EENS Feeneyite i.e EENS with BOD and I.I being only hypothetical cases.So they were not objective exceptions to EENS, the Athanasius Creed etc.But for Archbishop Lefebvre too it had become outside the Church there is salvation.This was known salvation, for there to be exceptions to EENS.
This same error was repeated at Vatican Council II and Archbishop Lefebvre did not comment.He overlooked this particular mistake.
The error was repeated in Redemptoris Missio and other Magisterial documents.
Pope Paul VI could have interpreted Vatican Council II without this false premise and Archbishop Lefebvre did not seem to be aware of it.
So a subtle change was brought into the Church.The SSPX has supported it.They have openly opposed the St. Benedict Centers on EENS.On their website they criticize Fr. Leonard Feeney.Their theological position was the same as the liberals.-Lionel Andrades
That Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre did not know that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance were not exceptions to Feeneyite EENS and that Vatican Council II did not contradict the Athanasius Creed is part of the crisis in the Church. He was accepting liberalism with the false premise
That Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre did not know that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance were not exceptions to Feeneyite EENS and that Vatican Council II did not contradict the Athanasius Creed is part of the crisis in the Church. He was accepting liberalism with the false premise. -Lionel Andrades
Throughout life Bishop Donald Sanborn, influenced by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, believed that the baptism of desire was an exception to Feeneyite EENS.So he wrote the 'Anti Feeneyite Catechism'.Now he knows that hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire cannot be objective exceptions to EENS.This must be a crisis for his sedevacantist community which always interpreted Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc
Throughout life Bishop Donald Sanborn, influenced by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, believed that the baptism of desire was an exception to Feeneyite EENS.So he wrote the 'Anti Feeneyite Catechism'.Now he knows that hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire cannot be objective exceptions to EENS.This must be a crisis for his sedevacantist community which always interpreted Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc.-Lionel Andrades
Sedevacantist Bishop Donald Sanborn's Anti Feeneyite Catechism has an objective error
https://gloria.tv/post/86W3HcXVp3op1qiHyYhcN4sUk
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Immodesty in clothes leads to Hell. What you wear or don't wear is important.Cover the body so that others may not be tempted.All it takes is one mortal sin for a soul to go to Hell
Immodesty in clothes leads to Hell. What you wear or don't wear is important.Cover the body so that others may not be tempted.All it takes is one mortal sin for a soul to go to Hell. -Lionel Andrades
Prayer to be recited today to Our Lady of the Rosary of Pompeii
Prayer to Our Lady of the Rosary of Pompeii
Petition to Our Lady of the Rosary of Pompeii
To be recited on May 8 and the first Sunday in October.
In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
I.
O august Queen of victories, Virgin who reignest in paradise, whose mighty name causes heaven to rejoice and hell to tremble, glorious Queen of the most holy Rosary, we, thy happy children chosen by thy goodness in this century to build thee a temple at Pompeii, kneeling at thy feet on this solemn day to commemorate thy latest triumphs on the spot where idols and demons were formerly worshipped, pour out with tears the feelings of our hearts and with a filial confidence lay before thee our miseries.
From that throne of mercy where thou sittest as Queen, Mary, turn down thy pitiful eyes on us, on our families, on Italy, on Europe, and the whole Church; take into pity the afflictions which overwhelm us and the cares which embitter our lives. Thou seest, O Mother, how many dangers of soul and body, how many calamities and afflictions press upon us.
O Mother, keep back the arm of justice of thy indignant Son, and conquer by thy mercy the hearts of sinners, since they are our brethren and thy children, redeemed through the blood of our sweet Jesus and through the wounds of thy most tender heart pierced with the sword. Show thyself to all in this day, as thou art, the Queen of peace and mercy.
Hail, Queen, Mother of mercy,
- Vouchsafe that I may praise thee, sacred Virgin.
- Give me strength against thy enemies.
- Pray for us, Queen of the most holy Rosary,
- That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
II.
It is but too true that we, although thy children, are the first who crucify Jesus in our hearts and wound anew thy heart by our sins. We confess it, we deserve the severest chastisements; yet remember how thou didst receive, on the top of Golgotha, the last drops of that divine blood, and the testament of our dying Redeemer. And this testament of a God, sealed with the blood of a Man-God, appointed thee our Mother, the Mother of sinners. Thus, as our Mother, thou art our Advocate and our Hope. To thee, amidst sighs, do we lift up our hands, crying for mercy!
Have pity, good mother, have pity on us, on our souls, on our families, on our relations, on our friends, on our departed brethren, above all, on our enemies, and on so many who claim the name of Christians, yet wound the loving heart of thy Son. Pity, Mother, we now implore thee for pity on the erring nations, on all Europe, on the whole world, that they may repair repentant to thy heart. Be merciful to all, Mother of mercy.
Hail, Queen, Mother of mercy,
- Vouchsafe that I may praise thee, o sacred Virgin.
- Give me strength against thy enemies.
- Pray for us, Queen of the most holy Rosary,
- That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
III.
What does it cost thee, Mary, to hear us? What does it cost thee to save us? Did not Jesus entrust to thy hands all the treasures of his graces and mercies? Thou sittest as Queen at the right hand of thy Son, crowned with immortal glory, above all the choirs of angels. Thou extendest thy dominion as far as the heavens expand; the earth and all the creatures that people it are subject to thee. Thy power even reaches hell, and thou alone, Mary, canst rescue us from the devil's grasp. Thou art almighty by grace, and therefore thou canst save us. Now if you sayest thou willest not help us because we are ungrateful children and unworthy of thy protection, tell us at least to whom shall we have recourse in order to be released from so many evils? Oh! No, thy maternal heart will never bear to see the ruin of thy children. The divine Child we behold on thy knees, the mystical crown we admire in thy hand, both inspire us with hope that we will be heard. And full of confidence in thee, we throw ourselves at thy feet, we trust ourselves as feeble children into the arms of the tenderest amongst mothers, and today, this very day, we expect from thee the graces we are longing for.
Hail, Queen, Mother of mercy,
- Vouchsafe that I may praise thee, o sacred Virgin.
- Give me strength against thy enemies.
- Pray for us, Queen of the most holy Rosary,
- That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Let us ask Mary for her blessing
We now ask of thee, O Queen, a last favor which thou canst not refuse on this solemn day. Grant to all of us thy constant love and in a special manner thy maternal blessing. No, we will not leave thy feet today nor cease clasping thy knees till thou hast blessed us. Bless now, Mary, the sovereign Pontiff. To the first laurels of thy crown, to the ancient trophies of the Rosary, whence thou art called Queen of victories, add also this one, Mother, grant triumph to religion and peace to mankind. Bless our bishop, the priests and particularly those who promote the honor of thy Sanctuary; bless finally all those who are associated to thy new temple of Pompeii and who practice and spread devotion to thy most holy rosary.
O blessed rosary of Mary, sweet chain which unites us to God, bond of love, which connects us with the angels, tower of safety against the assaults of hell, sure harbor in the universal shipwreck, never more shall we part with thee; thou shall be our comfort in the hour of agony: to thee the last kiss of our life; and the last word of our dying lips shall be thy sweet name, Queen of the Rosary of Valle di Pompeii. Mother dear, only refuge of sinners, supreme comforter of the afflicted, blessed be thy name, now and forever, on earth and in heaven. Amen.
Hail; Queen, Mother of mercy,
- Vouchsafe that I may praise thee, o sacred Virgin.
- Give me strength against thy enemies.
- Pray for us, Queen of the most holy Rosary,
- That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
This prayer has been approved by the Congregation of rites, and Leo XIII has granted an indulgence of seven years and seven quarantines to those who devoutly recite it on May 8 or on the first Sunday in October. (Rescript of June 18, 1887)
St.Teresa of Avila, St. Catherine of Siena, St. Faustina Kowalska and numerous saints have seen Hell and they have returned to tell us about it.Yet people say that no one has seen Hell and who have returned to tell us about it.The young visionaries at Medugorje are still alive. They were shown Hell by Our Lady
St.Teresa of Avila, St. Catherine of Siena, St. Faustina Kowalska and numerous saints have seen Hell and they have returned to tell us about it.Yet people say that no one has seen Hell and who have returned to tell us about it.The young visionaries at Medugorje are still alive. They were shown Hell by Our Lady. -Lionel Andrades
How can the LOHO state 'that one may obtain eternal salvation it is not always required that he or be incorporated into the Church actually as a member' ? Where are the objective exceptions ?
How can the LOHO state 'that one may obtain eternal salvation it is not always required that he or be incorporated into the Church actually as a member' ? Where are the objective exceptions ?. -Lionel Andrades
How can the baptism of desire(BOD) be an exception to Feeneyite EENS ? It does not exist in real life.Only God can know a BOD-case.A possibility of being saved with BOD is not a real person.This is common sense.The saints knew this. The popes knew this.For them BOD was not an exception for exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church
How can the baptism of desire(BOD) be an exception to Feeneyite EENS ? It does not exist in real life.Only God can know a BOD-case.A possibility of being saved with BOD is not a real person.This is common sense.The saints knew this. The popes knew this.For them BOD was not an exception for exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades
There was no EENS with exceptions for St. Francis of Assisi and St. Bonaventure since it is common sense that BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be exceptions. They don't exist.But there is EENS with exceptions for the popes from Paul VI to Francis and also for the SSPX.This is the New Theology
There was no EENS with exceptions for St. Francis of Assisi and St. Bonaventure since it is common sense that BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be exceptions. They don't exist.But there is EENS with exceptions for the popes from Paul VI to Francis and also for the SSPX.This is the New Theology.-Lionel Andrades
BOD = Baptism of desire,
BOB = Baptism of blood
I.I = Invincible Ignorance.
In the debate ( original video ) Chris Ferrara and Mark Shea were interpreting Magisterial documents with a false premise.
In the debate ( original video ) Chris Ferrara and Mark Shea were interpreting Magisterial documents with a false premise. - Lionel Andrades
OCTOBER 19, 2018
Repost : Chris Ferrara - Mark Shea debate : both are theologically rejecting the dogma EENS
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/repost-chris-ferrara-mark-shea-debate.html
FEBRUARY 19, 2016
Neither Chris Ferrara or Mark Shea were affirming the Feeneyite position on extra ecclesiam nulla salus
Comments from The Eponymous Flower : Ferrara vs. Shea Debate-- Mark Shea Must be a Feeneyite Now!
There can be mission Ad Gentes with Feeneyism or Cushingism. We can choose.For Pope Francis and the Jesuits it is mission with Cushingism
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/02/their-can-be-mission-ad-gentes-with.html
Chris Ferrara Vs Mark Shea
http://www.aotmclub.com/index.asp?pageID=18
http://www.aotmclub.com/index.asp?pageID=18
Chris Ferrara unknowingly uses an irrational premise and supports magisterial heresy
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/02/chris-ferrara-unknowingly-uses.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/02/chris-ferrara-unknowingly-uses.html
There can be mission Ad Gentes with Feeneyism or Cushingism. We can choose.For Pope Francis and the Jesuits it is mission with Cushingism
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/02/their-can-be-mission-ad-gentes-with.html
In the book The Little Flowers of St. Francis of Assisi by St. Francis of Assisi, the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is affirmed
In the book The Little Flowers of St. Francis of Assisi by St. Francis of Assisi, the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is affirmed. -Lionel Andrades
Dave Armstrong had debates, discussions and communications with Karl Keating and Chris Ferrara and all three used an irrational premise to interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms.No one showed them their mistake
Dave Armstrong had debates, discussions and communications with Karl Keating and Chris Ferrara and all three used an irrational premise to interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms.No one showed them their mistake. -Lionel Andrades
The most important thing is to go to Heaven
The most important thing is to go to Heaven. -Lionel Andrades
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