Wednesday, April 13, 2022

Pope Francis closed the seminary in 2013 but doctrine and theology would no more be an issue today if all the pontifical seminaries and universities used the Rational Premise only. There would be unity in the Church on Catholic faith and morals


I accept Vatican Council II ( Rational ) since the Council is not a rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church but Pope Paul VI interpreted the Council with the False and not Rational Premise. The Fake Premise is not Magisterial and produces heresy and schism. Also Fr. Joseph Ratzinger like Pope Paul VI repeated the objective mistake of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (LOHO). LOHO confused unknown cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as being known exceptions for 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).This cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit. It’s human error. Without this mistake the theological liberalism in the Church is snuffed out.

The new Commissar of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, Fr. Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj, could also interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise, like me. Instead, he chooses the False Premise. This is unethical if not also illegal.

It’s immoral to expect the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate to use the Fake and not Rational Premise to interpret the Council and other Church Documents.

At the Jesuit Gregorian University, Rome, where he works, all are expected to use the False Premise. Fr. Ghirlanda and Pope Francis expect Fr. Stefano Mannelli f.i, the founder of the community, to do the same. Only then they could give him permission to re-open the seminary at Boccea, Rome.

Pope Francis closed the seminary in 2013 but doctrine and theology would no more be an issue today if all the pontifical seminaries and universities used the Rational Premise only. There would be unity in the Church on Catholic faith and morals.

But now at the FFI parishes in Italy, Fr. Ghirlanda cannot really allow the First Communion and Confirmation classes, with children and adults, being taught to fake it. They interpret Vatican Council II and the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) with the Fake and not Rational Premise. Fr. Ghirlanda has an obligation to tell them to use only the Rational Premise. Also the non-Christians working in the parishes and at the Jesuit institutions have to be told to interpret Vatican Council II with only the Rational Premise. This is the correct thing to do. It creates continuity and not a break with Catholic Tradition. The rank and file Catholics will understand this.

The Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate must not be forced by the Commissar to indiscriminately accept and study the encyclicals and books of the popes from Paul VI to Francis. They used the False Premise and contradicted the popes over the centuries.

Pastorally the Rahner-Ratzinger theology has to be rejected in the parishes, otherwise it would be promoting mortal sins of faith. Since the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance, with the False Premise becomes ‘ a practical exception’ for the Athanasius Creed, which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation. It is made obsolete. With ‘physically visible’ cases of BOD, BOB and I.I, there is a new understanding of the Nicene and Apostles Creed. The liberal version is heretical and schismatic and has to be rejected by good Catholics. There also emerges an indifferent and syncretistic interpretation of the First Commandment, for Catholics. 

The Jesuit canonist could inform the Roman Rota and the secular judiciary, that the Franciscans of the Immaculate in Italy will interpret the Councils and Creeds rationally. The jurists are expected to do the same.

 The Jurisprudence Department at La Sapienza University, Rome must not interpret Vatican Council II with the False Premise and then support innovation in moral theology, like the Fundamental Option Theory. They would justify the innovations by citing Vatican Council II (Irrational) as a break with Tradition. So in this bad spirit changes were made in morals and faith.

With the False Premise used  in the Boston Heresy Case by Cardinal Richard Cushing, the Archbishop of Boston ( and not Fr. Leonard Feeney),was in heresy and a new theology was created to change the traditional teachings on faith and salvation.This was not corrected by the popes. Pope John Paul II corrected many errors in moral theology, including the Fundamental Option Theory, with his encyclical Veritatis Splendor.

The liberals cite the theological exceptions as being the practical rule and as if human beings have God-like abilities to judge the intention and motivation of a person, and so change traditional moral theology. A new understanding of mortal sin was created.

So with Vatican Council II ( Irrational) there was a change in faith and morals and this is wrongly being linked to the Latin Mass, which is prohibited for the FFI. –Lionel Andrades

 AUGUST 2, 2018

Repost : A simple observation needs to be made by the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the SSPX : and there will be a breakthrough

JULY 28, 2018

A simple observation needs to be made by the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the SSPX : and there will be a breakthrough

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There was a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and then it was repeated in Vatican Council II.The mistake was hypothetical cases were assumed to be non hypothetical. Invisible non Catholics were assumed to be examples of salvation outside the Church. This mistake is being repeated by the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate.
Here is how the error works.It can be seen in these graphics.


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 Roberto dei Mattei and Fr.Serafino Lanzetta F.I have used this irrational method of interpreting Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. The Franciscans of the Immaculate followed them.
Until today this same wrong way of interpreting Vatican Council II is normal for the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX).
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This was the way Vatican Council II was interpreted by the late Fr. Fidenzio Volpi OFM(Cap).He called the Franciscans of the Immaculate 'crypto Lefebvrists'.
Now we know that we do not have to interpret Vatican Council II like the Lefebrists and neither like Fr. Volpi.Both  were using the irrational premise as shown in the graphics above. It was the same mistake made by Roberto
dei Mattei, Fr. Lanzetta and Fr. Stefano Manelli F.I.
Here is an alternative. These graphics show how the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes and becomes traditional.



So Vatican Council II is no more like it is interpreted by the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) or the Bologna School.They assumed that hypothetical cases were not only hypothetical but objective exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
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Vatican Council II is now no more like it is being interpreted by Cardinal Braz de Avez and Archbishop Jose Carbello.
So this is the interpretation of Vatican Council II which the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St. Pius X must adopt and ask the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) to also affirm Vatican Council II, without the irrationality.
They simply have to say that there are no objective cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2018.Similarly there are no known cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in the present times. They are all hypothetical cases.
This is all which is required.Make this simple observation as so many others have done.

Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errorshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html#links

DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html#links

CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS DE FIDE AND NOT CONTRADICTED BY VATICAN COUNCIL II- Fr. Nevus Marcello O.P
BRAZILIAN PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/brazilian-priest-says-vatican-council.html#links

CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/08/catholic-priests-in-rome-agree-with.html#links

JUNE 20, 2011

THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF- Fr.George Puthoor

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/06/there-is-no-baptism-of-desire-that-we.html


WE DO NOT KNOW ANYONE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE OR INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO ENTER THE CHURCH AS DON BOSCO TAUGHT- Salesian Rector and Parish priest in Rome
-Lionel Andrades
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JULY 28, 2018

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When Vatican Council II is not a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc) it is an issue for Cardinal Avez and Archbishop Carbello and not the Franciscans of the Immaculate or the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/vatican-council-ii-is-not-rupture-with.html

JULY 28, 2018

Vatican Council II is in harmony with St. Augustine, St.Thomas Aquinas , Pope Boniface VIII etc on outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/vatican-council-ii-is-in-harmony-with.html


APRIL 12, 2022

Fr.Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj, canonist and new Commissar of the Franciscans of the Immaculate (both groups) must inform the Roma Rota and secular institutions that the Franciscans will only interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise. This is the honest and ethical thing to do

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/04/in-progress-fr.html


APRIL 11, 2022

Pope Francis must permit the opening of the seminary and church of the Franciscans of the Immaculate in Rome and create reconciliation and unity in the Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/04/pope-francis-must-permit-opening-of.html



JULY 7, 2014

Asking the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II with an irrational inference violates their conscience : laws in Italy

The Vatican Press Office has not denied that the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate have to accept Vatican Council II in which all references to salvation (NA 2, UR3 etc) must be assumed to be visible on earth.These 'visible cases', the Franciscans have to opine, are real, known,visible in the flesh exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They would have to be visible and known for them to be exceptions.This is affirmed by the Vatican cardinals and popes and is believed to be the interpretation of Pope Francis and Catholics at large.
 
Upon this irrational premise i.e being able to see the dead in Heaven who are physically visible on earth and are alleged exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation, the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate, have to build a fantasy theology. This non-real theology says there is salvation outside the Church. Since, there is salvation outside the Church, the Franciscans of the Immaculate, must acknowledge Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition.
So in conscience they have to tell a lie. They have to deny what is common knowledge i. e we humans in general cannot see the dead who are now in Heaven.
 
Even secularists would understand that this is a conscience issue and is not the teaching of the Catholic Church.Yet it is being forced upon the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate. This is the condition, the lie , they must endorse to be able to offer the Traditional Latin Mass and to have teaching faculties once again.
Their seminary has been closed.Since it could be ideological for the pope to interpret Vatican Council II without the irrational premise.The result would be a traditional Vatican Council II.
 
The seminarians who had to leave the seminary because it was closed down by Pope Francis, have been asked to enroll at pontifical seminaries in Rome. Here they must say that they can see the dead saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8), seeds of the Word(AG 11), good and holy things in other religions(UR 3) and a ray of the Truth(NA 2).

 These deceased-visible are exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation. Yet none of the seminarians can see the deceased in Heaven.This is a conscience issue. Nether can the priest-professors at the pontifical universities  see these deceased-saved.Yet the pontifical university forces the Franciscans of the Immaculate seminarians , and others also,to affirm the absurd.

This is the condition for studying there.If a seminarian says that he cannot see the dead and so Vatican Council II is in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus, according to Tradition, he will be expelled.
Lay Catholics,including the relatives of the religious, must do something about this. The Franciscans of the Immaculate are being asked to violate their conscience and affirm Vatican Council II with an irrational statement.It must be noted that there are secular laws in Italy related to freedom of conscience.The Apostolic Signatura,unfortunately, permits this general violation of conscience.-Lionel Andrades

Can the Franciscans Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate affirm Vatican Council II without this fantasy premise ? No one at the Vatican Press Office wants to answer

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/can-franciscans-friars-and-sisters-of.html#links 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/franciscans-of-immaculate-are-not.html#links 

Vatican wants the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate to accept this irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/vatican-wants-franciscan-friars-and.html#links