Thursday, March 8, 2012

THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE A VISIBLE MEMBER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE OFFICIAL TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND NOT JUST THE VIEW OF FR.LEONARD FEENEY

So powerful is the secular liberal media that they have ‘catechized’ generations of Catholics over half a century. The leftist, mainstream media keeps repeating that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for saying everyone needs to be a visible member of the Church. The media does not say that everybody needing to be a visible member of the Catholic Church, is the official teaching of the Church according to magisterial documents. It cannot state this. Since the lie is their leftist ideological position.

It is made to seem that Fr. Leonard Feeney held a different view from that of the teaching authority of the Catholic Church. The magisterium, the teaching authority of the Church, it is made to appear, accepts ‘the mainstream teaching’ of the non-Catholic owners of the media.

They suggest that Fr. Leonard Feeney was wrong with a ‘minority view’. They imply that Catholics know of people saved in Heaven, in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. So these cases known in general, are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They are allegedly exceptions to the Fr. Leonard Feeney’s interpretation. If there can be known exceptions to the dogma, example the baptism of desire, then it is assumed that Fr.Leonard Feeney was wrong. Also it is assumed that he was excomunicated for this error.

So the media indicates that the Catholic Church does not teach anymore the error of Fr. Leonard Feeney. Why? Since we know, it is assumed, of visible cases of the baptism of desire.

In other words: deny the dogma, deny the official teaching of the Catholic Church. Since we know of cases in Heaven in general, saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance.

The media is to never let out the secret that these cases are known only to God and are unknown to us humans.If they did reveal the secret, over 50 years of propaganda would come to an end.

So they will never state that Fr. Leonard Feeney’s interpretation of the salvation dogma outside the church no salvation, is the official teaching of the Catholic Church.

Those who can discern realize that Fr. Leonard Feeney held the same doctrinal teaching on salvation as Jesus, the Church Fathers, and the popes including Pope Pius XII, the Church Councils which defined the dogma, and the saints who were faithful to the dogma, the Catechisms, Vatican Councils and the Bible according to the Catholic Church. This was Jesus’ teaching. (Mk.16:16, Jn 3:5 etc)

For salvation every one with no exception needs to be a visible, formal member, i.e with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water, is the official Catholic teaching for all Catholics, including those who attend the Novus Ordo Mass in the different languages.-Lionel Andrades





FR.LEONARD FEENEY HELD THE SAME DOCTRINE AS THE CHURCH FATHERS, POPES, COUNCILS,CATECHISMS, VATICAN COUNCILS I AND II AND MICHAEL VORIS AT REAL CATHOLIC TV.COM

IF THE LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949 CONSIDERED THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE AS A DEFACTO EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA IT WOULD BE AN OBJECTIVE ERROR: WE DON’T KNOW ANY SUCH CASE

ALL THE CATECHISMS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAVE TAUGHT THE RIGORIST VIEW OF EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

The Vatican Councils of the Catholic Church have clearly taught that formal membership in the Catholic Church IS absolutely necessary for salvation

No pope has said that those saved in invincible ignorance are known to us and so are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Being saved in invincible ignorance is not a defacto exception to the teaching of Cantate Domino Council of Florence

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is in agreement with the rigorist interpretation of outside the church no salvation

Whether they know it or not non Catholics with the stain of Original Sin on their soul and mortal sins committed in that state and without the Sacraments outside of which there is no salvation, are all oriented to Hell

When one is clear that all those saved are explicit only in Heaven it is not difficult to affirm ‘the formal necessity of belonging to the Church’

Ultra Traditonalists in accord with Vatican Council II on extra ecclesiam nulla salus

DOES THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACH THAT MUSLIMS ARE SAVED ?

CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF

NON CATHOLICS CAN BE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE, BAPTISM OF DESIRE AND IT DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS- Daphne McLeod, Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice, England

RADICI CRISTIANE SAYS CLEARLY CHURCH HAS NOT CHANGED LITERAL MEANING OF DOGMA AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND BAPTISM OF DESIRE ARE NOT DEFACTO EXCEPTIONS.

The Catholic Legate - John Pacecho, Art Sippo,Peter Vere contradict each other ?

VATICAN RECOGNIZES DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS WITH RIGORIST INTERPRETATION : INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE (LG 16) AND BAPTISM OF DESIRE ARE NOT DEFACTO EXCEPTIONS

Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate theologian endorses outside the Church no salvation

Fr. Serafina Lanzetta F.I of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate mentions that outside the church there is no salvation. He endorses the aphorism extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

In the preface of the apologetic journal Fides Catholica Quaderni, published by the Istituto Teologico “Immacolata Meditrix”, Casa Mariana Editrice he mentions the aphorism extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He writes without the Church there is no salvation.

The subject of Fides Catholica Oct 2011 is Fatima, Hell and the Immaculate Heart (Fatima, l’inferno e il Cuore Immacolato) written by Fr.Stefano M. Manelli F.I the founder of the community.

When Father Serafina Lanzetta refers to outside the church there is no salvation he means, outside the church no salvation as interpreted by the Church Councils in the defined dogma.Also as interpreted by the popes in the ordinary Magisterium, Vatican Councils I and II, the Catechisms of the Catholic Church including the present one, the saints and Fr.Leonard Feeney. It is also understood that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance or a good conscience are explicit only in Heaven and so are not defacto, known exceptions to the centuries old interpretation of outside the church no salvation.(1)
-Lionel Andrades
 
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FR.LEONARD FEENEY HELD THE SAME DOCTRINE AS THE CHURCH FATHERS, POPES, COUNCILS,CATECHISMS, VATICAN COUNCILS I AND II AND MICHAEL VORIS AT REAL CATHOLIC TV.COM

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