Since invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) were visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) for Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, he rejected Feeneyite EENS.
So he was saying that everyone needs to enter the Church as a member for salvation except for those saved outside the Church with BOD,BOB and I.I.The popes and the liberals say the same.
Since hypothetical cases of BOD, BOB and I.I were exceptions to EENS he used the same reasoning to interpret Vatican Council II as was common in 1965.
Lumen Gentium 16 ( invincible ignorance) etc were exceptions to EENS.But here instead of accepting Unitatis Redintigratio 3 etc as being a break with EENS and an ecumenism of return( as he had accepted BOD, BOB and I.I) he criticizes UR 3 etc, for being a rupture with an ecumenism of return.Bishop Fellay does the same today.
Lumen Gentium 16 ( invincible ignorance) etc were exceptions to EENS.But here instead of accepting Unitatis Redintigratio 3 etc as being a break with EENS and an ecumenism of return( as he had accepted BOD, BOB and I.I) he criticizes UR 3 etc, for being a rupture with an ecumenism of return.Bishop Fellay does the same today.
It was clear for Archbishop Lefebvre Protestants and non Christians needed to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.But he accepted cases of BOD, BOB and I.I with reference to EENS but he could not accept hypothetical cases of UR 3 etc in Vatican Council II with reference to an ecumenism of return.
Hypothetical cases ( UR 3, LG 16 etc) were non hypothetical for him.He must have been confused, though obedient to the popes, like the rest of the Church.
But hypothetical cases of invincible ignorance for example, mentioned in the Catechism of Pope Pius X would be an exception to the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX on an ecumenism of return and no salvation outside the Church.
The Catechism of Pope Pius X would contradict the Syllabus for Archbishop Lefebvre.Also this Catechism would contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. Since for him BOD, BOB and I.I were already exceptions to EENS.
Today the SSPX can reverse this whole cycle of error. They have to assume that BOD, BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases only. They refer to invisible people in our reality.This is common sense. So BOD, BOB and I.I never were exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS. There are no practical exceptions to EENS.
They would then be confirming the General Chapter Statement on Doctrine of the SSPX(2012) which supported EENS(Feeneyite) with BOD, BOB and I.I not being exceptions.But there was no doctrinal support from the CDF/Ecclesia Dei on this point.
Then the SSPX must announce that Vatican Council II ( UR 3, LG 8,LG 14, LG 16, NA 2, GS 22 etc) is not a rupture with EENS and the past ecclesiology of the Church.So theologically there can only be an ecumenism of return with outside the Church there being no salvation.
So the Catechism of Pope Pius X when it mentioned invincible ignorance, would not contradict the Syllabus of Errors on ecumenism and no salvation in non Christian religions.
EENS is also the basis for proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King and the non separation of Church and State.
So the past ecclesiology of the Catholic Church would then be the same today.It is the same before and after Vatican Council II at the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass.
There is no rupture with Tradition when this rational interpretation is used i.e invisible people are invisible,hypothetical cases of BOD, BOB ad I.I and LG 8, LG 16, UR 3 etc are just hypothetical.This is something obvious which the SSPX could affirm. -Lionel Andrades
EENS is also the basis for proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King and the non separation of Church and State.
So the past ecclesiology of the Catholic Church would then be the same today.It is the same before and after Vatican Council II at the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass.
There is no rupture with Tradition when this rational interpretation is used i.e invisible people are invisible,hypothetical cases of BOD, BOB ad I.I and LG 8, LG 16, UR 3 etc are just hypothetical.This is something obvious which the SSPX could affirm. -Lionel Andrades
NOVEMBER 4, 2018
Archbishop Lefebvre was a modernist (Graphics)
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/archbishop-lefebvre-was-modernist.html
NOVEMBER 4, 2018
Was Vatican Council II Magisterial ? : there is an objective error in the text and on this point at least the Council could not be guided by the Holy Spirit
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/was-vatican-council-ii-magisterial.html
NOVEMBER 4, 2018
Fr.Leonard Feeney was saying that those who die in a state of Justification with or without the baptism of water, are not known to us. Literally there are no such cases. Practically they cannot be objective exceptions to the dogmatic teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.We do not know who they are and where do they go after death.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/frleonard-feeney-was-saying-that-those.html
NOVEMBER 4, 2018
Cushingite comments on Bread of Life by Fr.Leonard Feeney
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/cushingite-comments-on-bread-of-life-by.html
NOVEMBER 3, 2018
The Catholic politicians in Italy can affirm all the teachings of the Catholic Church without an irrational premise and inference : their conclusion would be different from the Left.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-catholic-politicians-in-italy-can.html
NOVEMBER 3, 2018
Salvini - 2
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/salvini-2.html
NOVEMBER 1, 2018
Austrian government must correct Card, Schonborn's deception : clarification from Parolin needed
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/austrian-government-must-correct-card.html
When the Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto says that Hungarian has been a Christian country for a millennium he means it has been a Catholic country - without the leftist doctrines on salvation of the present- day Vatican
OCTOBER 30, 2018
Hungarian Parliament must note that the divisive Synod on the Youth was Leftist and supported Soros' policies
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/hungarian-parliament-must-note-that.html
OCTOBER 8, 2018
In Hungary they do not have to accept the Catechism approved for the teaching for Catholics, by Soros and the Lefthttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/in-hugary-they-do-not-have-to-accept.html
OCTOBER 10, 2018
Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Sjizzarto must tell Cardinal Pietro Parolin to end the Leftist version of Catholicism in Hungaryhttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/hungarian-prime-minister-peter.html
OCTOBER 13, 2017
HUNGARIAN PARLIAMENTARIAN BLASTS ‘SATANIC’ INFLUENCE OF GEORGE SOROShttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/10/hungarian-parliamentarian-blasts.html
OCTOBER 10, 2018
When the Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto says that Hungarian has been a Christian country for a millennium he means it has been a Catholic country - without the leftist doctrines on salvation of the present- day Vatican
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/when-hungarian-foreign-minister-peter.html
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