Thursday, September 8, 2016

There is a mistake in Vatican Council II: Lumen Gentium 14( baptism of desire) and Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance) is interpreted by me as being invisible.For the magisterium and most Catholics it is visible

There is a mistake in Vatican Council II. The baptism of desire (Lumen Gentium 14) and being saved in invincible ignorance (Ad Gentes 7) should not have been mentioned. Since these are 'zero cases' in our reality. They are invisible.This was a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.The Letter assumed what was not seen was really seen, what was invisible was visible.








Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life.-Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

Hypothetically, speculatively, with good will, yes, 'those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church....'. There is no such case personally known to us. There was no such case in 1949 when the Letter of the Holy Office was issued. Nor was there any such known case in 1960-1965.So with reference to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus it is a 'zero case'. So it should not have been mentioned in Vatican Council II. It was a mistake.

Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
Again this is a reference to an unknown case. It is speculative.We can see the influence of the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.

Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him.-Ad Gentes 7 
A person who is inculpably ignorant and is saved is unknown to us personally. Such a case was never an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So why is this mentioned here in Vatican Council II? It is there because the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 assumed aninvisible case is visible.

Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.-Lumen Gentium 14

In Lumen Gentium 14 the mistake on the baptism of desire being visible instead of invisible is repeated.Why mention thsi catechumen?
Now we can have two interpretations of Vatican Council II.
Lumen Gentium 14 ( baptism of desire) and Lumen Gentium 16 and Ad Gentes 7 ( invincible ignorance) is interpreted by me as being invisible.For the magisterium it is visible.Most Catholics accept this mistake.
-Lionel Andrades

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Ecclesia Dei must be asked to acknowledge the objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. Then they must be asked to interpret Vatican Council II not with Cushingism but with Feeneyism. This is rational, traditional and with the hermeneutic of continuity

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/ecclesia-dei-must-be-asked-to.html



Will the SSPX now ask Ecclesia Dei to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite)?.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/will-sspx-now-ask-ecclesia-dei-to.html


CARDINAL GERHARD MULLER, ARCHBISHOP AUGUSTINE DI NOIA, BISHOP BERNARD FELLAY MISTAKE HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES AS BEING EXPLICIT IN THE PRESENT TIMES
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/cardinal-gerhard-muller-archbishop.html

Factual mistakes in Vatican Council II are not noted on the SSPX website
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/factual-mistakes-in-vatican-council-ii.html


BBC journalist visits Medugorje and becomes a priest

FRUIT OF MEDJUGORJE




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Fruit of Medugorje
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'Thank you Blessed Mother and Happy Birthday!'- Moment with Mary.

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A MOMENT WITH MARY

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Fruit of Medugorje
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SEPTEMBER 8 - Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary

SEPTEMBER 8 - Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary

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Il Concilio Vaticano II è Feeneyito e il Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede(CDF), Vaticano lo sai: Non c'e Prelatura Personale per i Francescani dell' Immacolata

Il Concilio Vaticano II è Feeneyito e il Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede(CDF), Vaticano lo sa.E non c'e Prelatura Personale per i Francescani dell' Immacolata (F.I)
Il papa non ha offerto una Prelatura Personale ai Francescani del Immacolata che vogliono offrire solo la Messa Tridentino. Questo è un privilegio essere dato solo alla Societa di San Pio X(SSPX).
Ci sono circa 60 sacerdoti della Francescani dell'Immacolata a Firenze, Italia che offrono solo Messa Tridentino e affermano il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Loro non avere il permesso da Papa Francesco per offrire Messa Tridentino.
Nel frattempo Papa Francesco ha rilasciato nuovo controlli sulle nuove comunità religiose.Dovrà essere approvato dal Vaticano. Ci sono controlli simili comunità monastiche.
Secondo Gloria TV il Papa chiede di decentramento, ma su questo tema preferisce la centralizzazione.
Il papa non ha offerto una Prelatura Personale ai sacerdoti di Francescani del Immacolata che vogliono offrire solo la Messa Tridentina. Questo è un privilegio essere dato solo alla Societa San Pio X.
I Francescani dell Immacolata  comunità  a Boccea, Roma che Papa Francesco ha approvato, e persino incontrato loro qualche mese fa, offre la Messa in lingua italiana e interpreta il Concilio Vaticano II con la teologia Cushingito.Questo e obbligatoria.Cushingismo e la nuova teologia approvata di Rahner e Ratzinger.
Anche la Fraternità San Pio X(SSPX) interpreta il Concilio Vaticano II con la teologia irrazionale, che rende il Concilio una rottura con la Tradizione. Così sono ha la approvazione di Papa Francesco e Papa Benedetto su questo punto.Anche prete-blogger Padre John Zuhlsdorf interpreta il Concilio Vaticano II con Cushingismo e la sua incardinazione e approvata in Italia.
Le comunità religiose cattoliche e cardinali e vescovi non sono autorizzati a offrire la Santa Messa con Feeneyismo come la teologia.Non hanno permissione per interpretazione Concilio Vaticano II, il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica e il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus con Feeneyismo.Ecclesia Dei presumo conosce questa possibilità.

Il Vaticano ormai poteva sapere che il Concilio Vaticano II può essere anche  Feeneyito.Può essere interpretato senza la premessa e conclusione irrazionale.Allora dopo 'Roma avranno tornare alla Fede'. Roma puo ritornero alla ecclesiologia prima del Concilio di Trento.In questa situazione ideale la SSPX non dovrà temere vescovi liberali quando hanno ricevuto il approvazione canonico.
Il Concilio Vaticano II è Feeneyito e il CDF lo sa, ormai, ma non ha offerta una prelatura personale ai Francescani dell'Immacolata in cui possono affermare il Concilio Vaticano II con Feeneyismo(LG 16, LG 8 ecc sono invisibili nel 2016).Possono affermare il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus chi e Feeneyito(non ci sono casi visti del battesimo di desiderio ecc).Non ci sono eccezioni per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, secondo i 16 ° secolo missionari).Possono accettare il Credo di Nicea con Feeneyismo- un solo battesimo noto(non tre o di piu.Il battesimo di desiderio per esempio non e visibile, non e tangibile), il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica (Feeneyito- casi ipotetici ci sono solo ipotetica) e il battesimo di desiderio e di essere salvati nell'ignoranza invincibile (Feeneyito-cioè sono casi ipotetici, che non sono esplicite nel 2016).Anche offrono il Santa Messa Tridentino.-Lionel Andrades


Il Concilio Vaticano II è Feeneyito e Roma lo sa, ormai ( Inglese)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/vatican-council-ii-is-feeneyite-and.html

Così la Curia Vaticana lo sa. Significa lo scenario dottrinale ha cambiato. Il Concilio Vaticano II non è più un problema per Ecclesia Dei e la Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede (English)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/so-vatican-curia-knows-this-it-means.html

La Fraternità San Pio X sara chiederà Ecclesia Dei per affermare il Concilio Vaticano II (Feeneyite)?(English)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/will-sspx-now-ask-ecclesia-dei-to.html

Ecclesia Dei devono chiesto di riconoscere l'errore oggettivo nella Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949. Poi devono essere chiesto di interpretare il Concilio Vaticano II non con Cushingismo ma con Feeneyismo. Questo è razionale, tradizionale e con l'ermeneutica della continuità( English)
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/ecclesia-dei-must-be-asked-to.html

Vatican Council II is Feeneyite and the CDF knows it by now : no Personal Prelature for the Franciscans of the Immaculate priests

The pope has also not offered a Personal Prelature to the Franciscans of the Immaculate priests who want to offer only the Traditional Latin Mass. This is a privilege being given only to the Society of St.Pius X.

There are some 60 priests of the Franciscans of the Immaculate in Florence, Italy who offer only the Traditional Latin Mass and affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.They are not being allowed to offer the Traditional Latin Mass by Pope Francis.
Meanwhile Pope Francis has issued further controls on new religious communities being formed.They will have to be approved by the Vatican. There are similar controls placed on monastic communities.
According to Gloria TV the pope calls for decentralisation but on this issue prefers the centralisation of his power.
The pope has also not offered a Personal Prelature to the Franciscans of the Immaculate priests who want to offer only the Traditional Latin Mass. This is a privilege being given only to the Society of St.Pius X.
Meanhile the Franciscans of the Immculate community at Boccea, Rome whom Pope Francis has approved of, and even met them a few months back, offers Mass in Italian and interprets Vatican Council II with the obligatory Cushingite theology, the new theology of Rahner and Ratzinger.
The SSPX is already interpreting Vatican Council II with the irrational theology, which makes the Council a break with Tradition. So they are approved by Pope Francis and Pope Benedict on this issue.Even Fr.John Zuhlsdorf interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism and so has his incardination approved in Italy.
Catholic religious communities and cardinals and bishops are not allowed to offer Holy Mass with Feeneyism as the theology for interpreting Vatican Council II , the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla saluls.Ecclesia Dei I assume is aware of this possibility.
The Vatican by now could know that Vatican Council II can also be Feeneyite.It can be interpreted without the irrational premise and conclusion.Then 'Rome will have come back to the Faith'.It  will have come back to the main ecclesiology of the pre-Council of Trent times.In such an ideal situation the  SSPX will  not have to fear liberal bishops once they have received full canonical status.
Vatican Council II is Feeneyite and the CDF knows it by now but there is no personal prelature being offered to the Franciscans of the Immaculate in which they can affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite- LG 16, LG 8 etc are invisible in 2016), the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite- there are no seen cases of the baptism of desire etc for them to be exceptions to EENS according to the 16th century missionaries), the Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite- one known baptism), the Catechism of the Catholic Church( Feeneyite-hypothetical cases are only hypothetica), the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance( Feeneyite i.e they are  hypothetical cases, which are not explicit in 2016) and also offer the Traditional Latin Mass.
-Lionel Andrades


Vatican Council II is Feeneyite and Rome knows it by now
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/vatican-council-ii-is-feeneyite-and.html

So the Vatican Curia knows this. It means the doctrinal scenario has changed. Vatican Council II is no more an issue for Ecclesia Dei and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/so-vatican-curia-knows-this-it-means.html
Will the SSPX now ask Ecclesia Dei to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite)?
Ecclesia Dei must be asked to acknowledge the objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. Then they must be asked to interpret Vatican Council II not with Cushingism but with Feeneyism. This is rational, traditional and with the hermeneutic of continuity http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/ecclesia-dei-must-be-asked-to.html