Friday, January 13, 2012

OBLATES OF ST.JOSEPH PRIEST APPROVES MY UNDERSTANDING OF CHURCH

Last Monday at 8.45 a.m I was in the sacristy of the Church San Giuseppe All Aurelio, Via Boccea, Rome.I briefly spoke to the Italian priest who was preparing for Holy Mass in Italian. I mentioned that the day earlier Sunday the feast of the Baptism of Our Lord the congregation was asked, in another church, if they believe in the Holy Spirit the Holy Catholic Church... We all responded YES.

I told him my understanding of Church could be different. I believe in the dogma outside the church there is no salvation and I accept the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance but know we do not know any case on earth.

He began to speak about the baptism of desire etc when I interrupted him and said that I accept it but we do not know any case in particular.

I said I beleive in extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is my under standing of Church was it correct.

Padre Orlandao smiled and answered yes.

I said thank you and left.

This is the second priest in a few weeks that I have asked this same question and they tell me my Faith is OK.

This Italian priest is from the community Oblates of St. Joseph.

TRADITIONALIST WEBSITE LISTS FEENEYISM AS A HERESY INSTEAD OF CUSHINGISM

A traditionalist website has listed the heresies of the past and among the modern heresies has been placed-Feeneyism.

The heresy is Cushingism and not Feeneyism.

Cushingism says there is salvation outside the Church implying that those saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire are explicitly known to us and so contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The dogma says all need to convert into the church for salvation.

Cushingism gets its name from the Archbishop of Boston Richard Cushing who in the 1940’s rejected the centuries-old interpretation of the dogma.

Richard Cushing opposed Fr. Leonard Feeney who held the traditional teaching on the dogma outside the church there is no salvation. He was supported by the Jesuits and the Jewish Left media in Boston.

The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 addressed to Cardinal Cushing mentioned ‘the dogma’ which was interpreted consistently for centuries. It was the same interpretation as that of Fr. Leonard Feeney.

The Letter also mentions the possibility of a person being saved with the baptism of desire but nowhere says that it is an exception to the dogma or that these cases are explicitly known to us.

Likewise Vatican Council II maintained the traditional teaching and the interpretation of Fr. Leonard Feeney. Ad Gentes 7 states  all need to enter the Church for salvation with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water. Lumen Gentium 16 mentions the possibility of non Catholics being saved in invincible ignorance. Again, contrary to Cushingism it does not state that these cases are explicitly known to us or are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Dominus Iesus says salvation is available for all however to receive it one needs to enter the Church, the Church is necessary. (N.20).

Cushingism refutes this teaching and says that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are exceptions.Cushingites claim Fr.Leonard Feeney rejected these ‘exceptions’ to the dogma and so held the ancient ‘rigorist’ interpretation.Cushingites assume that implicit baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma. This is irrational.

Cushingism is a widespread modern heresy in the Catholic Church.
-Lionel Andrades

THE HOLY FATHER POPE BENEDICT XVI IS A CUSHINGITE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/05/holy-father-pope-benedict-xvi-is.html