Wednesday, October 5, 2011

HOLY FATHER ENCOURAGES GESU AL CENTRO MISSION

The Holy Father has sent a message of encouragement to the Gesu al Centro Mission program in Rome organised by the Vicariate of Rome. He has also at the same time called upon the European bishops for ‘audacity in mission’ and to proclaim the Gospel according to Zenit News (Oct.5, 2011).

However for the Gesù al Centro evangelization is proclaiming Jesus without the Catholic Church.

Jesus founded a Church, he called it ‘my church’ and told St.Peter it would last forever. To be saved from Hell and to gain from Jesus’ Sacrifice every one needs to believe in Him and be baptized into the Church (Nicene Creed). John 3:5. Those who are not in this Church of Jesus will be condemned (Mark 16:16).

When we proclaim the Gospel we must invite people to believe in Jesus and to live the Gospel as interpreted by the Catholic Church over the centuries.

It is the Holy Spirit which has guided the Church to continue to teach that outside this Church there is no salvation (dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ).

This is the same teaching in Vatican Council II (LG 14, AG 7) and other Magisterial documents (Dominus Iesus 20 etc).

So there can be no true Catholic evangelisation which denies the necessity of the Church for salvation.

Presently in the Gesu al Centro program, the Charismatic Renewal mission in Italy and the Rome Vicariate there is the denial of the need for every one to enter the Church, visibly, through Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation. Since there is also a denial of this teaching in the statements of the Holy Father and the Vatican Curia who have opted for a politically accepted version of the Catholic Faith.

This is a public rebellion against the Bible, the Church Councils, popes, the Magisterium of Pope John Paul II and Vatican Council II.

The secular media and Wikipedia, the encyclopedia on the internet, claim that Lumen Gentium 16 on invincible ignorance is a contradiction of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. There is no Vatican clarification.Discerning Catholics know that there is no explicitly known case of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance or with the baptism of desire so it does not contradict the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation. Also there is no Magisterial text which says that the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance is explicit instead of implicit.

Also when the pope repeats that all those who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church it does not contradict the centuries old teaching of the Councils, popes and saints that every one with  no exception needs to be a visible member of the Church to avoid Hell.

Venerable Pope Pius XII in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 referred to 'the dogma', 'the infallible teaching'. The dogma, the infallible teaching's text indicates all non Catholics in Boston and the rest of the world are oriented to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church. This is not clearly proclaimed by the Vatican.Confusion over Catholic mission is allowed to spread. 

So how can there be a true proclamation of the Gospel when this issue is not clarified  Vatican ? -Lionel Andrades

GESU AL CENTRO: CATHOLIC YOUTH IN ROME PROCLAIM JESUS WITHOUT THE CHURCH JUST AS THE JEHOVAH WITNESSES
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/gesu-al-centro-catholic-youth-in-rome.html

ROME VICARIATE’S GESU AL CENTRO USES CHARISMATIC RENEWAL-MEDUGORJE EVANGELIZATION AND CONTRADICTS VATICAN COUNCIL II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/rome-vicariates-gesu-al-centro-uses.html#links



MEDUGORJE CONTRADICTS VATICAN COUNCIL II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/medugorje-contradicts-vatican-council.html#links

THOUSANDS OF CATHOLICS PRAYED FOR WHOM JESUS CALLED HERETICS AND SCHISMATICS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2010/04/thousands-of-catholics-prayed-for-whom.html#links

POPE BENEDICT XVI AT ASSISI INTER RELIGIOUS MEETING WITH DISUNITY AND NO DIALOGUE AMONG CATHOLICS ON THE CREED
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/pope-benedict-xvi-at-assisi-inter.html

CATHOLIC LAWYERS NEEDED INDEPENDENT OF THE VATICAN TO DEFEND AN UNPROTECTED COMMUNITY IN ITALY
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/catholic-lawyers-needed-independent-of.html

VIDEO CATHOLIC YOUTH IN ROME SHARE THEIR FAITH

The three youth whom I spoke to yesterday (Oct.4, 2011) evening at the Church Gran Madre di Dio,Ponte Milvio, Rome, as the lights were put out and they were preparing for a concert outside, did not believe that the Catholic Church teaches that all non Catholics need to enter the Church to avoid Hell. They were not familiar with the Vatican Council II texts or Dominus Iesus neither did they know about the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Bible texts which reference it. However they were on Mission to express their love for Jesus, Jesus without the necessity of the Catholic Church for salvation. They could be members of the Jehovah Witnesses or some new Pentecostal or Protestant community in Rome.

The talk with them is recorded on a video in Italian in which Francesco from the Basilica Sacro Cuore di Gesu, of the Salesians near Termini, Rome speaks in Italian about his faith, or lack of it. A young lady says in English she was in this program to express her personal relationship with Jesus and this was what she wanted to share.

There was no doctrinal concept of Catholic Mission.-Lionel Andrades

CATHOLIC YOUTH STOPPED FROM EVANGELISATION ON THE STREETS OF ROME

Patriarch of Venice has invited the Gesù al Centro youth to come to Venice for street evangelisation.

The Catholic Vicariate in Rome has stopped Catholic Mission on the streets of Rome. The Gesu al Centro youth program is now restricted to schools and hospitals. Even last year the youth in groups’ f four or five wearing colourful T. shirts were not seen on the streets.

The Vicariate has also suspended the Catholic mission magazine Christ to the World. The magazine was under the Vicariate of Rome though edited by the community Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate.

The leftists, socialists and communists have placed anti Semitism and anti proselytism laws in Italy which are being enforced. There are laws against the free distribution of pamphlets and freedom of religious expression.

Also the secular mainstream media controlled by them are not reporting the truth about Catholic Mission doctrine but are changing it and presenting it differently in a politically accepted version of the Catholic Faith.

Catholics now wrongly believe that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for saying everyone needs to be a visible members of the Church to avoid Hell and there are no exceptions. This was exactly the teaching of the popes, Council saints and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

They also say Vatican Council II has changed Church teaching when Vatican Council II actually supports the dogmatic teaching and says all need to enter the Church through Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation (LG 14, AG 7)

They also false claim that those saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire are exceptions to the dogma or the need for everyone to be a visible member of the Church for salvation.Discerning Catholics know that they are not exceptions. Since we do not know any such case and there is no Church document which says those saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance are explicitly known to us. They are only known to God and we will not encounter such cases on the streets and so they are not an exception to the dogma Cantate Domino, Council of Florence on extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Neither do they contradict Vatican Council II (LG 14, AG 7) or the Catechism of the Catholic Church n.845, 846.

The Corpus Christi and other religious processions in Rome are still permitted.

The Patriarch of Venice it may be mentioned has invited the Gesù al Centro youth to come to Venice for street evangelisation.-Lionel Andrades