The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops(USCCB) and Joe Biden, a Democrat Catholic Presidential candidate for the USA elections next year interprets Vatican Council II deceptively and heretically and this is being overlooked by the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committe Bishop Kevin Rhoades.1
LG 8, LG 14 and LG 16) being hypothetical cases do not contradict the old ecclesiology. There is no known salvation outside the Church. So there is no theological and philosophical foundation for the New Theology of the USCCB.
There is nothing in Lumen Gentium to contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. So there is no philosophical and theological foundation in Vatican Council II for the New Ecclesiology of the USCCB.
Unitatis Redintigratio does not name any particular person saved outside the Church as a Protestant or other Christian in his religion.It does not state that we can know of a Christian saved outside the Church without Catholic faith. So the Decree on Ecumenism(UR) does not anywhere contradict the past ecumenism of return.The USCCB is in error here too.
Similarly Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation and we know there can be no practical exceptions known to us humans in 2019. So Vatican Council II is not a rupture with Mission and Salvation as it was known to the Magisterium and missionaries in the 16th century.
Ludwig Ottt assumes unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) were known exceptions to the traditional interpetation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The same mistake was made by Fr. Francois Laisney.Other writers made this mistake and also interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally. The same error is being made today by the Cardinals and bishops at the Amazon Synod and the USCCB.
-Lionel Andrades
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SEPTEMBER 24, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committe has made a doctrinal mistake (Graphics)
-Lionel Andrades
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SEPTEMBER 23, 2018
Things are so bad on doctrine and theology in the Catholic Church that the new Chairman of the Unites States Catholic Conference of Bishops(USCCB) cannot deny what I have written.
Things are so bad on doctrine and theology in the Catholic Church that the new Chairman of the Unites States Catholic Conference of Bishops(USCCB) cannot deny what I have written.1
He will not affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He agrees with me?!
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither did the popes and saints over the centuries claim that they are.
3.In general people will agree that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases only.
There is no denial also from Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee regarding the error he made in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
In his radio program this month he mentions 'elements of sanctification and truth'(Lumen Gentium 8) as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.This is irrational.It violates the Principle of Non Contradiction. How can we see people saved on earth ? How can they be in two places at the same time?
How can his new theology say outside the Church there is salvation.Where is this salvation?
How can his new theology say outside the Church there is salvation.Where is this salvation?
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth'.So the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II picked up the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there are physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.So a wrong inference is made by Bishop Rhoades.
3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will.
So it was wrong for Bishop Kevin Rhoades to interpret Vatican Council II (LG 8 etc) as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
There is no denial from the USCCB or Bishop Rhoades. No one wants to correct me.
So they know that I am correct and they do not want to say anything.-Lionel Andrades
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SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
LUMEN GENTIUM 8 AND BOD,BOB AND I.I ARE HYPOTHETICAL AND THEORETICAL AND ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EENS. YET FOR BISHOP KEVEN RHOADES THEY ARE EXCEPTIONS.THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE OF THE USCCB DOCTRINAL COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN
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SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS. Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee Chairman
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee makes an error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
In his recent radio program he cites Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth', as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.
This is irrational.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth'.
2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there are physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.
3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to the dogma no salvation outside the Church.
MISTAKE ON EENS TOO
Similarly he will not affirm EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He made a mistake again.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). We cannot see or meet any one saved as such in 2018 or over the last 100 years.The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither do the popes and saints claim they are.The Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions being saved in invincible ignorance and does not state that it refers to someone known. Similtaneously this Catechism says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it does not mention any exceptions.
3.In general people will say that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases.
So Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.
Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake.
-Lionel Andrades
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee makes an error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
In his recent radio program he cites Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth', as if it is an example of known salvation outside the Church and so an exception to the dogma EENS.
This is irrational.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to the dogma no salvation outside the Church.
MISTAKE ON EENS TOO
Similarly he will not affirm EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
He made a mistake again.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Catholic Church with the baptism of desire(bod), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I). We cannot see or meet any one saved as such in 2018 or over the last 100 years.The Holy Office 1949 made a mistake in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
2.Common sense tells us that BOD, BOB and I.I are not physically visible cases and neither do the popes and saints claim they are.The Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions being saved in invincible ignorance and does not state that it refers to someone known. Similtaneously this Catechism says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it does not mention any exceptions.
3.In general people will say that BOD,BOB and I.I refer to hypothetical cases.
So Lumen Gentium 8 and BOD,BOB and I.I are hypothetical and theoretical and are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.
Yet for Bishop Keven Rhoades they are exceptions.This is a big mistake.
-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 22, 2018
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-supports-traditional.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
Bishop who interprets Vatican Council II and outside the Church with no salvation with irrational Cushingism instead of traditional Feeneyism is the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-who-interprets-vatican-council.html
SEPTEMBER 16, 2018
Cardinal Donald Wuerl and the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, chaired by Archbishop William E.Lori, made an objective error in the Notification on Fr. Peter C.Phan http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/cardinal-donald-wuerl-and-usccb.html
SEPTEMBER 14, 2018
Vatican Council II says extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-says-extra-ecclesiam.html
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Bishop Rhoades, like his predecessor Donald Wuerl as the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee is maintaining the duplicity on Vatican Council II and no one is complaining.
Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions does not refer to known people saved outside the Catholic Church. It is not an example of salvation outside the Church.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with elements of sanctification and truth.
2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.
3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to o salvation outside the Church. 
We can respect non Catholics, we can treat them with dignity we can even serve them in love as Jesus wants us to do so but in charity we must tell them the truth i.e Nostra Aetate no where contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Literally we cannot know of any exception to EENS. The text of Nostra Aetate does not state that there are practically known exceptions to EENS.
Nostra Aetate 2 refers to a hyopthetical case when it refers to ' a ray of that Truth which enlightens'. This is an abstract reference.
A theoretical possibility, a hope of someone being saved outside the Church is not an actual and known case. So it cannot be an objective example of salvation outside the Church.
It is the same with Lumen Gentium and Ad Gentes, they do not contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it.-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
http://connecticutcatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2018/07/how-can-dogma-change.html#disqus_thread
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-supports-traditional.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
Bishop who interprets Vatican Council II and outside the Church with no salvation with irrational Cushingism instead of traditional Feeneyism is the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-who-interprets-vatican-council.html
SEPTEMBER 16, 2018
Cardinal Donald Wuerl and the USCCB Doctrinal Committee, chaired by Archbishop William E.Lori, made an objective error in the Notification on Fr. Peter C.Phan http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/cardinal-donald-wuerl-and-usccb.html
SEPTEMBER 14, 2018
Vatican Council II says extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/vatican-council-ii-says-extra-ecclesiam.html
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Bishop Rhoades, like his predecessor Donald Wuerl as the Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee is maintaining the duplicity on Vatican Council II and no one is complaining.
Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions does not refer to known people saved outside the Catholic Church. It is not an example of salvation outside the Church.
1.Practically there are no known people saved outside the Church with elements of sanctification and truth.
2.The text of Lumen Gentium 8 does not state that there physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church.
3.Common sense tells us it is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is speculation with good will, something hoped for.
Neither is Nostra Aetate an exception to o salvation outside the Church.
We can respect non Catholics, we can treat them with dignity we can even serve them in love as Jesus wants us to do so but in charity we must tell them the truth i.e Nostra Aetate no where contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Literally we cannot know of any exception to EENS. The text of Nostra Aetate does not state that there are practically known exceptions to EENS.
Nostra Aetate 2 refers to a hyopthetical case when it refers to ' a ray of that Truth which enlightens'. This is an abstract reference.
A theoretical possibility, a hope of someone being saved outside the Church is not an actual and known case. So it cannot be an objective example of salvation outside the Church.
It is the same with Lumen Gentium and Ad Gentes, they do not contradict the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.
Vatican Council II supports traditional EENS and Bishop Kevin Rhoades, like Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, cannot say it.-Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the new Chairman of the USCCB Doctrinal Committee in his radio program makes the same doctrinal error as Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/bishop-kevin-rhoades-new-chairman-of.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
SEPTEMBER 21, 2018
When Bishop Kevin Rhoades infers that Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate say we know of non Catholics saved outside the Church it is irrational and heretical: Vatican Council II does not contradict traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/when-bishop-kevin-rhoades-infers-that.html
http://connecticutcatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2018/07/how-can-dogma-change.html#disqus_thread
Ordained in the modern Catholic Church in 2008, Fr. Michael Oswalt soon came to see that not only were his orders invalid, but that his Church was not truly the Catholic Church. He came to Mount St. Michael in January of 2010 to prepare for ordination in the traditional Catholic rite, and was ordained to the priesthood on June 29, 2011.
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