Monday, July 23, 2012

Dr. Jeff Mirus calls Pope Pius XI’s wording in an officially indulgenced prayer “a bit careless,” and “theologically unfortunate.”

A Slow Reading of Romans XI
by Brother André Marie July 20, 2012

In his polemic, A Faulty Traditionalist Condemnation, Dr. Jeff Mirus recommends that his readers undertake a slow reading of Romans Chapter 11. This will apparently help us to understand the points of Saint Paul’s inspired text that traditionalists have so far failed to understand.CONTINUEDhttp://catholicism.org/a-slow-reading-of-romans-xi.html

Dr. Mirus’ piece was written in response to an article by John Vennari, which, in turn, was critical of statements made by Archbishop Augustine Di Noia, O.P., in an interview he gave Vatican Insider. My interest here is neither Mr. Vennari’s claims, nor the Archbishop’s words, but, rather, in what Dr. Mirus wrote, for it pertains to “our issue.”

Dr. Mirus rejects the idea that the defined dogma, extra ecclesiam nulla salus means that non-Catholics have to convert to Catholicism in order to be saved. He writes:

No, the ancient phrase “extra ecclesiam nulla salus” means something far less formal—and happily far more substantial—than that. To understand it, we must recall that, for Saint Paul, being joined to Christ is the same thing as being joined to the Church (Christ’s body), and this joining comes through belief in, trust in and obedience to God according to whatever degree of truth the Holy Spirit writes in each person’s heart (see What Does it Mean to Be Saved?).

ARCHBISHOP OF BOSTON DOES NOT CONTRADICT SSPX COMMUNIQUE: SAME DOCTRINAL POSITION AS FR.LEONARD FEENEY ON WHOM THEY PLACED SANCTIONS

If Cardinal Sean O’Malley responds to the two questions awaiting his answer, he too could hold the same position as the SSPX.

When the excommunication against Fr. Leonard Feeney was lifted he was not asked to recant. He held his ‘rigorist position' and said there was no baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. The Society of St.Pius X ( SSPX ) communique last week has the same message as the famous priest from Boston.

The Archdiocese of Boston never issued a clarification when the media reported that Fr. Leonard Feeney was in heresy for rejecting the baptism of desire.

This is still the charge on Wikipedia- the online encyclopedia. There has been no clarification from Cardinal Sean O’Malley.Instead he seemed to support the error at a conference held by the Jesuits a few years back at the Pontifical Gregorian University, Rome.It was  presided over by the Australian Fr. Dan Madigan S.J who would say that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for holding  the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Now the communiqué has stated like Fr. Leonard Feeney that there are no known exceptions to the dogma, ‘no possibility' 'of salvation outside the Church.

No one in the Archdiocese of Boston is answering the two questions related to the communiqué.

If there really are no known exceptions; if we really do not  know any of the dead, saved in invincible ignorance etc then it means the SSPX has accepted Vatican Council II according to Tradition (the dogma). Vatican Council II is in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the interpretation of Fr. Leonard Feeney. So when the SSPX affirms the dogma,as  they did in the comnunique,  they are affirming Vatican Council II according to the uninterrupted Magisterium, the magisterial documents.

They are endorsing the Church-texts not according to Cardinal Sean O’Malley but the saints, the Church Fathers, the Church Councils, Vatican Council I and II, Dominus Iesus and all the Catechisms of the Catholic Church-Lionel Andrades

SSPX COMMUNIQUE HAS UNITED CATHOLIC TRADITIONALISTS: BOOKS AND WEB PAGES CRITICAL OF FR. LEONARD FEENEY ARE EXPECTED TO BE RETRACTED


It’s the truth which unites and the SSPX has used it to unite traditionalists.

Joint conference needed.

Books and articles by the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) priests and lay supporters which assume we personally know cases of the dead are expected to be retracted or removed.

The SSPX communiqué published on July 19, 2012 is clear. There are no possibilities of salvation outside the Church.

In the past the SSPX would seem to say that every one needs to enter the Church for salvation on earth  except for some….

Since this point of no possibilities of salvation outside the church was not clear before, there was confusion.

It meant in the past that in the Profession of Faith the SSPX members would be saying ‘I believe in not one but three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins’. It would also seem as if vocations to the SSPX must believe in a visible baptism of desire , known to us personally.

The SSPX and the St. Benedict Centers, the communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney, could organise a joint conference on outside the church no salvation and no possibilities of salvation outside the church as mentioned in the communique-Lionel Andrades