Monday, December 10, 2012

MEDUGORJE, la tenacia d'amore della Madre del Cielo

Here is an extraordinary video of Medjugorje in the early days(May 1984).It's in Italian. In one of the video clips the young Fr.Slavko Barbaric OFM can also be seen.

The Church permits private visits to Medugorje. If you have a chance go there!
-Lionel Andrades




If Vatican Council II is in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus them most people do not go to Heaven.

The Church's traditional teaching has been that most people go to Hell.If Vatican Council II is in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus them most people do not go to Heaven.


There are Catholic priests in Rome who say we do not know any case of a visible baptism of desire. So Vatican Council II does not contradict itself or the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church defined three times.


 Vatican Council II has no known exceptions to the dogma i.e there is no known salvation outside the church, then this contradicts the Medugorje message which says most people go to heaven.


Unless, there is another reason or another factor that we do not know about.- Lionel Andrades
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OUR LADY AT MEDUGORJE SAYS 'the eternal value of going to confession cannot be over-estimated'.

May Holy Confession be the first act of conversion for you and then, dear children, decide for holiness. May your conversion and decision for holiness begin today and not tomorrow.” (November 25th 1998)

“Dear children! In the great love of God, I come to you today to lead you on the way of humility and meekness. The first station on that way, my children, is Confession. Reject your arrogance and kneel down before my Son. Comprehend, my children, that you have nothing and can do nothing. The only thing that is yours and what you possess is sin. Be cleansed and accept meekness and humility. My Son could have won with strength, but He chose meekness, humility and love. Follow my Son and give me your hand so that, together, we may climb the mountain and win. Thank you.” (July 2nd 2007)

“One must invite people to go to Confession each month, especially the first Saturday. (…) Monthly Confession will be a remedy for the Church in the West. One must convey this message to the West.” (August 6th 1982)

“Pray, pray! It is necessary to believe firmly, to go to Confession regularly, and likewise to receive Holy Communion. It is the only salvation.” (February 10th 1982)

According to the Virgin Mary (who is viewing everything in the light of God’s eternity), the eternal value of going to confession cannot be over-estimated:

“Whoever has done very much evil during his life can go straight to Heaven if he confesses, is sorry for what he has done, and receives Communion at the end of his life.” (July 24th 1982)

Photo of long lines for Confession at Medugorje.
from the Medugorje website.

CDF, CARDINAL CAMILIO RUINI IS IN DOCTRINAL ERROR AND HE IS TO EVALUATE MEDUGORJE DOCTRINALLY



The SSPX and sedevancatists have to accept Vatican Council II without a rupture with the past and  so has the President of the Vatican's Medugorje Commission.
Pope Benedictus XVI january,20 2006 (19).JPG


Please ask the cardinal to affirm Vatican Council II in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors and without the visible dead theory.


Ruini ruins investigation.


The personal doctrinal position held by Cardinal Ruini is very important in the Medugorje investigation.Since if the dead saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) etc are not visible on earth to him,then it means there are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Vatican Council II would be in accord with the traditional interpretation of the dogma on salvation.Then according to Vatican Council II all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water (AG 7) for salvation - and we know that most people on earth are not Catholics.So when Vicka, one of the visionaries says most people go to Heaven, does it contradict Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus defined three times ?


This may not be an issue for Cardinal Camilio Ruini since as President of the Italian Bishops Conference and pro-Vicar General in Rome he assumed there were visible exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is the Cardinal Richard Cushing Error which emerged in the 1940's in Boston.To assume that we can see the dead is a factual error.It is an error still being made by the Rome Vicariate.


So how can the President of the Commission investigating Medugorje hold an objective,factual error of being able to see the dead - and then evaluate Medugorje doctrinally and spiritually?


He can allegedly see people in Heaven and the issue is can the seers see Our Lady in Heaven.-Lionel Andrades

THE SSPX HAS TO ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II AS A CONTINUITY WITH TRADITION AND WHAT ABOUT CARDINAL CAMILIO RUINI?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/12/the-sspx-has-to-accept-vatican-council.html#links