Saturday, February 15, 2014

Did Michael Davis know ?

Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins most overlooked in our times

February 11, 2014  Posted by tantamergo
 
I posted a few quotes from early desert fathers yesterday, and it was apparent from those quotes how great a danger these great ascetics saw in gluttony. Here we are speaking of traditional gluttony for food, not some other gluttony (for power, etc). A commenter rightly noted that we just don’t hear much about gluttony anymore as a grave evil. Now, those in traditional parishes might hear a good deal about the need for fasting/mortification, but that’s a bit different. While fasting should be a regular part of our faith life (for those who can do so), avoiding binge eating or other tendencies towards gluttony are just as important.
There is a good resource here for avoiding gluttony and overcoming chronic overeating. Certainly, gluttony and the attendant health problems have gone beyond epidemic proportions in the United States and most of the West. In fact, the greatest health threat to the “poor” on government assistance is not starvation, but obesity! Even young children under the age of 10 are developing coronary artery disease, type II diabetes, and other disastrous effects of being morbidly overweight.
The Church has always counseled against all sins of worldly excess, including gluttony. The basis for this counsel is, of course, Sacred Scripture, wherein there are numerous warnings against gluttony and all bodily lusts:
Proverbs 23: 20-21: Be not among winebibbers or among gluttonous eaters of meat; for the drunkard and the glutton will come to poverty, and drowsiness will clothe a man with rags.
 
Sirach 23:6: Let neither gluttony nor lust overcome me, and do not surrender me to a shameless soul.
 
Sirach 37:30-31: for overeating brings sickness, and gluttony leads to nausea. Many have died of gluttony, but he who is careful to avoid it prolongs his life.
 
Matthew 11:19: the Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, `Behold, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Yet wisdom is justified by her deeds.
Philippians 3:18-19:For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their end is destruction, their god is the belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things.
 
Gluttony can be a venial or mortal sin depending on the degree of excess involved. Here is a good review of St. Thomas Aquinas’ analysis of the matter.
Aquinas actually defines five ways to commit gluttony:
Laute – eating food that is too luxurious, exotic, or costly
Nimis – eating food that is excessive in quantity
Studiose – eating food that is too daintily or elaborately prepared
Praepropere – eating too soon, or at an inappropriate time
Ardenter – eating too eagerly.
Pope St. Gregory the Great proposed a list that corresponds exactly to Aquinas, as well – but 600 years earlier! So maybe the credit goes to him.
 
Many great Saints have provided counsel on the evils of gluttony:
“Nothing created by God is evil. It is not food that is evil but gluttony, not the begetting of children but unchastity, not material things but avarice, not esteem but self-esteem. It is only the misuse of things that is evil, not the things themselves.”
–St. Maximos the Confessor
 
“Devils take great delight in fullness, and drunkenness and bodily comfort. Fasting possesses great power and it works glorious things. To fast is to banquet with angels.”
– St. Athanasius the Great
 
“Why do demons wish to excite in us gluttony, fornication, greed, anger, rancor and other passions? So that the mind, under their weight, should be unable to pray as it ought; for when the passions of our irrational part begin to act, they prevent the mind from acting rationally.”
– St. Nilus of Sinai
 
‘All that we can find everywhere is selfishness, ambition, gluttony, and luxury. Is not the greater portion of men defiled by the vice of impurity, and is not Saint John right in saying, “The whole world – if something so foul may be called – “is seated in wickedness?” I am not the one who is telling you; reason obliges you to believe that out of those who are living so badly, very few are saved.’
St. Leonard of Port Maurice
 
‘As long as the vice of gluttony has a hold on a man, all that he has done valiantly is forfeited by him: and as long as the belly is unrestrained, all virtue comes to naught.’
Pope St. Gregory the Great
 
‘Love, self-restraint, contemplation and prayer accord with God’s will, while gluttony, licentiousness and things that increase them pander to the flesh. That is why “they that are in the flesh cannot conform to God’s will” (Rom. 8:8). But “they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh together with the passions and desires.” (Gal. 5:24)’
St. Maximos the Confessor
 
‘I shall speak first about control of the stomach, the opposite to gluttony, and about how to fast and what and how much to eat. I shall say nothing on my own account, but only what I have received from the Holy Fathers. They have not given us only a single rule for fasting or a single standard and measure for eating, because not everyone has the same strength; age, illness or delicacy of body create differences. But they have given us all a single goal: to avoid over-eating and the filling of our bellies. . . A clear rule for self-control handed down by the Fathers is this: stop eating while still hungry and do not continue until you are satisfied.’-St. John Cassian
 
. . A capital vice denotes one from which, considered as final cause, i.e. as having a most desirable end, other vices originate: wherefore through desiring that end men are incited to sin in many ways. . . the vice of gluttony, being about pleasures of touch which stand foremost among other pleasures, is fittingly reckoned among the capital vices.’
St. Thomas Aquinas
 
‘Overeating and gluttony cause licentiousness. Avarice and self-esteem cause one to hate one’s neighbor. Self-love, the mother of vices, is the cause of all these things.’
St. Maximos the Confessor
 
‘The three most common forms of desire have their origin in the passion of self-love. These three forms are gluttony, self-esteem and avarice. All other impassioned thoughts follow in their wake, though they do not all follow each of them.’
St. Thalassios the Libyan
 
 
I tell you, after reading all those quotes from St. Maximos the Confessor, I am encouraged to read more about him! I don’t know a thing about him, but given the wisdom, clarity, and brevity of his counsel, I must learn more!
We enter the voluntary season of penance of Septuagesima this Sunday. This is the season where we can get our fasting and mortification down and well-established before Lent, the great penitential season, begins. It is a great gift the Church gives us, so we are really ready to go once Lent starts, so that we can truly accompany our Lord worthily on His 40 Day fast in the desert of the world.
I can tell you this blogger intends most seriously to engage in fast and much more exercise. I am becoming disturbingly Santa Claus like. I always fast half a day, but my problem has been making up a little too much for that fast time when I do eat. That, and I have 5 daughters who like to bake lots of sweets. And it would be a sin against charity to say no to your sweet 12 year old bringing you some brownie she just made, right?
I hope this is of some benefit. There are lots of other good Saint quotes on gluttony and intemperance here.
GLU
 

Michael Davis, Romano Amerio, Dietrich von Hildebrand were not aware of the irrational premise being used by them in the interpretation of Vatican Council II

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Michael Davis, Romano Amerio, Dietrich vob Hildebrand  and other traditionalists have interpreted Vatican Council II using the false premise of the dead- saved being visible. They were not aware of this premise. Similarly millions of people have interpreted the Council using this false premise. Hence we have all the confusion today which is correctly reported by Davis, Amerio and Hildrebrand.
If we do not use the dead man walking premise Vatican Council II is traditional.
 
Daphne Mcleod once in correspondence with me was critical of Fr.Leonard Feeney. She remembered the controversy in Boston.She was a young lady.
Daphne also assumed that the baptism of desire was explict for us and so an exception to the tradtional interpretation of the priest from Boston.So it is possible that Daphne's mentor Michael Davis also held this error.
-Lionel Andrades






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The Second Vatican Council - An Unwritten Story Paperback– December 8, 2012

Priest tells of an exorcism in which the demon said to him: "I do not like the way the women are dressed..."

Tuesday, January 14, 2014

The Combat of an Exorcist Today -- What the Devil Must Disclose

(Rome) An exorcist is at the forefront in the fight against the devil. One of them is Father Francesco Bamonte. He is an exorcist of the diocese of the Pope. "A typical behavior of the devil during the exorcism is to often talk about destruction and annihilation. All that is beautiful, good, healthy, pure, harmonious is mocked and threatened with extinction and destruction," says the exorcist. Particularly striking was the hatred of the devil against the sacrament of marriage, family ties and affection. "He reacts very violently when one blesses the marriage of two married people or if they are invited to renew their wedding vows," says Father Bamonte.
Francesco Bamonte belongs to the young Order of the Servants of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at (ICMS) founded in 1991. The Cordis Mariae immaculati Servi are an Order of diocesan right. Born in 1960, Father Bamote was ordained a priest in 1990. Since 2012 he has been Chairman of the Italian Association of Exorcists .
Immediately after his ordination to the Order, he turned to especially the Sacrament of Penance and in this regard to help the victims of occult practices. In 1997 he became a member of the International Association of Exorcists. Since 2005 he is a lecturer at the Regina Apostolorum Pontifical University in Rome, where he directs the course on Exorcism and Deliverance Prayer. At the request of the bishops of various Italian and foreign dioceses, he instructs seminarians on the subject of occultism and exorcism and their consequent pastoral issues. He also supports priests who are appointed as exorcists in their diocese by the bishop.

Father Bamontes Books: How to Recognize the Father of Lies

In 2000 he published the first book about his experiences as an exorcist: "What to do with Wizards? How to Free Yourself of the Superstition and Protect Against Fraud " (Cosa fare con questi maghi?); followed in 2004 by the book "Harmful Spiritualism. The Occult Work of the Evil in the Alleged Contacts with the Hereafter " (I danni dello spiritismo), and in 2006 the volume: "Demonic Possession and Exorcism. How to Recognize the Cunning Deceiver "; in 2008: "The Fallen Angels. The Mystery of Evil in the Experience of an Exorcist ." His most recent book was published in 2010 under the title: "The Virgin Mary and the Devil in Exorcism."
At the annual meeting in 2013, the Italian exorcist Father Bamonte gave a remarkable speech. He said: "A repeating in feature in exorcisms is the insistent demand of the demon, that men ought to worship him as if he were God. The demon who will not accept his creatureness, dangles himself pretending to be God, and he is greedily keen that people offer to him a cult which belongs to God alone. During the exorcism, he often says, 'Pray to me, pray to me, I am God, I am God! Kneel down, when my name is called. I am all-powerful! Call me! ' On these statements I reply, with No. 20 of the Roman Ritual (titulus XII "De exorcizandis obsessis a doemonio") which recommends the words of Jesus in the desert and the words of the Apostle Paul in his letter to the Philippians.

The Devil Wants to be Worshiped: "I am God!"

Another essential feature in the behavior of the demon during the exorcism, is that it is particularly common to speak of "destruction and destruction." Everything that is "good, beautiful, healthy, pure, harmonious" is covered with derision by the demon. He threatens to destroy everything. The special hatred of the demonic forces applies to the sacrament of marriage and the family. The priest tells of an exorcism in which the demon said to him: "I do not like the way the women are dressed. You must undress them even more so their sex is more prevalent and I can destroy more families!" With other exorcisms, the demon spoke in a very metaphorical way of the sex organs as "center of the world". The devil responds with "rage," if the marriage of a couple is blessed or the engagement of young people who want to be chaste until marriage. The devil cursed such decisions for purity and chastity as "filth" says Father Bamonte.

"I Try to Eat the Children" - Abortion and Sexual Seduction

An outstanding feature of the "personality" of the devil is his "abysmal hatred". He "enjoys the evil in whatever form it occurs." In one exorcism, he cried: "Take this heinous book of the Apocalypse. It is written about a woman who gives birth. I always try to eat the children. Do you know how?" Then the devil described with frightening words, the daily mass murder of thousands of unborn children who are killed by abortion in the womb. He also illustrated in all details, the heinous sexual abuse of children. He always added in his appalling statements a horrible: "How much I enjoy that!" after, says Father Bamonte. He also said that when he was talking about how young people destroy themselves through drug use or about Islamic suicide bombers who blow themselves up in the air.

The Perverts and Scoffers: "Come Unto Me, All Ye That are Funny and Perverted"

"It is shocking, how he twists everything and turns it upside down in which he turns evil into good and good into evil. When I held out to him a relic, he shouted: 'What a stench. Which is how he sees Him. With Him, he means Jesus Christ, whose name he never pronounces out of contempt and hatred. When I showed him a rosary, he said, 'accursed chain with the cross at the end '. When I sprinkled it with holy water, the possessed, the devil, protested angrily, 'I will not be washed out by this water, that stinks and burns'. When I spoke the words over a possessed, 'Bless Lord this brother the devil snarled immediately, 'he shall be damned, I'll take him to hell!' In the words of the Gospel: all Come to me, ye that labor and have to carry heavy loads. I will give you refreshment,' he cried, 'no, all comes to me, you who labor and have to carry heavy loads. I will give you refreshment! '"
The Exorcist continued: "When I came to the words , inimìce fidei, hostis, umani generis, adducto mortis' in the course of an exoricism, the demon gave his entire devotion to evil and for evil to be recognized: The power of sin will be our altar on which we will sacrifice the souls of your damn sons and daughters on this altar, we will shed the blood of your damn sons and daughters. There is a god for those who hate, and that god is my god. '"

"The Hatred of People Nourishes Me"

The devil shows his true colors during the exorcisms. He must be seen to reveal himself as he is, as the one who constantly to divide people against each other and tries to incite them. He enjoys the hatred between people and craves human malignancy, "This is food that nourishes and strengthens me," he had replied once, said Father Bamonte.
"Many times," says the exorcist, "I have heard the demon in perfect agreement with the Church's teaching that evil is a free decision of a man. He also had to admit that he can not do anything against the will of man, if it opposes the grace that supports him. Therefore, he is, as he clearly explains again and again, the great tempter who wants to tempt people always anew: Our duty is to tempt, always, anyone, anywhere and under any circumstances. Some get caught up in our net, some forever! "

The Power of Prayer and the Sacred Liturgy

The Exorcism proves the immediate potency of prayer, says the exorcist of the Diocese of Rome. "The exorcism is a liturgical action and thus a prayer of the Church. The Exorcist does nothing on his own behalf, but everything is in the name of Jesus Christ and the Church. When we see how much this rite disturbs the devil and the demons and defeats him, then we become aware of all the other liturgical actions of the Church and prayer and the grace they obtain as more powerful. That must really encourage us to pray, to make use of the Sacraments ad to visit Holy Mass.
In an exorcism, the demon had to admit, "apparently forced by God" and say, "If you people live on your knees before Him and worship Him and would sing His praise, as do the angels, we would not have all the power, which you give to us about you. "
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: RAI2 (screenshot)

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Catholic Bishop Says Many Conversions of Moslems to Christianity in Lebanon

Bishop details secrecy of Christian conversions in Lebanon

By Carl Bunderson

 
According to a local bishop, numerous conversions of Muslims to Christianity occur every year in Lebanon but the true number is unknown because of the risk of social stigma and persecution.

“Most of them try to go outside from Lebanon, to Europe or America or Canada or Australia to live there, because it’s not possible to be converted and to stay here,” a Catholic bishop in Lebanon told EWTN News in a Feb. 10 phone interview.

“It’s very, very hard to know how many are baptized, because everything will be a secret.”

Given the delicacy of conversion in Lebanon – a Middle Eastern country with a slight Muslim majority – the bishop spoke on condition of anonymity. While the region is lauded for its comparative plurality as Muslims generally coexist well with the Christian population, some hostility can be present toward those who convert from Islam.

“I have heard many stories about the conversion of Muslims,” he said, in both the Maronite and Melkite communities – the two largest Catholic groups in the country.

The bishop cited one Melkite priest who baptized 75 Muslims last year. “Most of them left Muslim areas to stay in the Christian area,” he said, and many are trying to emigrate.

One young woman from Baalbek was converted, he recounted, and her family “accused the priest of having used sorcery to make her convert to Christianity.”

“The priest was then abducted and kidnapped by the family. A deal was done after that between the diocese and the tribe of the family, that the family would bring the daughter back home, without torturing her.”

Her family has since converted as well, he explained, “but in a secret way.”

If converts from Islam are not able to leave Lebanon, he said, they often move to areas of Lebanon with larger concentrations of Christians: “other people left the Beqaa valley to stay in Beirut, or in Jounieh, in the Christian country.”

Those converting to Christianity in Lebanon are by and large Lebanese themselves, the bishop explained, saying, “I know only one Syrian.”

This Syrian convert is from Aleppo, and was in Beirut studying sharia to become a sheikh.

The man “was baptized in Lebanon and now he’s married, but he cannot register his marriage in Syria. He’s in big trouble now because he cannot go to Syria, and he cannot register his marriage in Lebanon either. We are trying now to see if he can go outside of Lebanon, to Europe or somewhere else, to live there with his family.”

Lebanon, according to the U.S. state department, has no procedures for civil marriage; all marriages performed there are performed by religious officials.

“Everything is a secret,” the bishop said. “It’s not easy to speak publicly about … conversion to Christianity.”

Lebanon, where it is not easy to speak publicly about Christian conversion, “is better than other Arabic countries.”

“But we still have a problem,” he said.

The Lebanese constitution provides for freedom of religion, and members of parliament and cabinet officials are all apportioned among Muslims and Christians.

National identity cards generally include the bearer’s religion, though this is not required by law.

“It’s easy for a convert to register with the state as a Christian,” the bishop said. “In other countries it’s not possible. I know for example in Egypt there are many conversions, but they still are registered as a Muslim, not Christian.”

Even though the Lebanese government provides for religious freedom, societal discrimination against converts is widespread. The bishop reported that families of converts often “never accept” their relative’s Christian faith, and the convert “is persecuted by his family and his tribe, by his village.”

While the country has long been able to live in the tension between its religious groups – an estimated 54 percent Muslim, 41 percent Christian – the large influx of Syrian refugees in the wake of the neighboring country’s civil war has strained the status quo.

The Lebanese government estimates that more than 1 million Syrian refugees are living in the country. In 2011, at the start of Syria’s civil war, Lebanon’s population was estimated at a little over 4 million.

Now that nearly 20 percent of Lebanese residents are Syrian refugees, interreligious relations are stressed. On Feb. 3, a suicide bomber wounded several in a district of Beirut largely home to Christians and Druze.

The bishop said that his diocese is assisting both Christian and Muslim refugees.

“When we receive Muslims, we help them without trying to convert them, because when we give material help, we don’t like to play this game.”

Murder of Shahbaz Batti, Brother Says He Won't Flee Pakistan

Dr Paul Bhatti

Asks for Prayers Amid Continuing Death Threats for Himself, Family, Witnesses
Dr. Paul Bhatti gave an impassioned plea on behalf of suffering minority groups in Pakistan in interviews with Catholic charity Aid to the Church in Need, after news broke that he had left his country for Italy.
Denying that he had fled the country for his own safety, the former Pakistani minister of national harmony and minority affairs said his visit toItaly was pre-arranged and added that he would soon return to his country to continue his struggle on behalf of oppressed minorities.
In a statement sent today to ACN, Dr Paul Bhatti said: “We have received threats, and we are facing them but I can’t leave alone my other [family] members who are under threat.
“We need your support and prayers to protect [the] weak and marginalized part of our community.”
Close family friends of Dr Bhatti have told ACN that he and a number of others had received death threats from militant groups opposed to the planned trial of those accused of murdering Dr Bhatti’s younger brother, Shahbaz Bhatti, who was Pakistan’s federal minister for minority affairs.
The friends, who asked not to be named for security reasons, confirmed that the threats were very similar to those sent to Shahbaz Bhatti before his assassination on 2nd March 2011 and could not be classed as “non-serious”.
Threats have also been received by members of the All-Pakistan Minorities’ Alliance (APMA), of which Shahbaz Bhatti was chairman.
Speaking yesterday to ACN, one of the Bhattis’ friends, a member of APMA, said: “Dr Paul Bhatti was not receiving adequate security. He was expecting to get round-the-clock security.
“Others connected with the Bhattis, including APMA members and lawyers, are in hiding. They are under threat. The situation is tense at the moment.”
“The threats are to be taken seriously because [they] are similar to the ones Shahbaz received and clearly involve organisations linked to the Taliban and other militant organisations.”
The APMA member made it clear the threats were directly connected to the case involving those accused of murdering Shahbaz Bhatti, adding that a trial hearing had been due on Saturday 8th February.
The source close to the Bhattis said: “Prior to [8th February], threatening letters were sent to the offices of the prosecuting lawyer acting on behalf of the family.
“Threats were made against eye-witnesses [in the Shahbaz Bhatti murder case].
“We were advised to stop pursuing this case otherwise we would face the same consequences as Shahbaz.”
The APMA member added: “The rule of law has to prevail and it is so unfair that somebody gets murdered and the culprits do not get justice.
“We lose somebody so precious and all we want is that those who committed the crime are brought to justice.”
Dr Bhatti told ACN he will be returning to Pakistan for the third anniversary of the death of his brother, Shahbaz, on 6th March.
He said: “Running away now would mean an end to Shahbaz’s mission, a cause which he dedicated his entire life to and for which he was killed.”
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NO ARTICLE ON TRADITIONALIST NEWS AGENCY ENDORSING EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

There is no article endorsing the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus on the traditionalist news agency Correspondenza Romano (CR). There is no article by Prof. Roberto dei Mattei, Cristina Siccardi or other traditionalist correspondents.
 
The writers are critical of Vatican Council II for not affirming extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Tradition in general.However they will not write a report affirming the thrice defined dogma.Even the text of the dogma is not available on CR or its sister publications.
Roberto Mattei and Cristina Siccardi do not know anyone in 2014 who will be saved 'outside the visible limits of the Church'.They do not know anyone who is an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Neither does Vatican Council II state that  there are exceptions to the dogma on salvation.Vatican Council mentions probabilities for salvation (UR 3, NA 2, LG 8,LG 16). The probabilities are not exceptions.Possibilities are not known, visible exceptions.
The baptism of desire is a possibility but it is not an exception to the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston.There is no explicit for us baptism of desire. There can be an implicit baptism of desire known only to God.Since it is not there in our reality it is not relevant to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So the Church Councils did not mention it in the text of the dogma.(Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 etc).
 
A search of the CR website with the words extra ecclesiam nulla salus draws the interview of Archbishop Augustine Di Noia by the National Catholic Register :
 
  
How much is a perceived weakening of the dogma extra Ecclesiam nulla salus (no salvation outside the Church) a major part of the problem, as some traditionalists assert? Has today’s understanding of the dogma contradicted its earlier teaching?
I don’t know if you can blame this on the Council so much as the emergence of a theological trend that emphasised the possibility of salvation of non-Christians. But the Church has always affirmed this, and it has never denied it. … [Karl] Rahner had a disastrous effect on this with his “anonymous Christianity.” But the Council does not alter the teaching of the Church.
And yet they argue it does?
This is a very good example of two of the things we’ve mentioned: the danger of reading this as it’s been read by Rahner, instead of in the light of the whole Tradition.
They claim that salvation is hardly proclaimed anymore.
Ralph Martin agrees with that. We do have a crisis, because the Church has been infected with the idea that we don’t have to worry or be anxious or we don’t sufficiently take the mandate to proclaim Christ seriously. But it’s not because of Vatican II, but bad theology. That’s why Dominus Iesus was part of the response to all of that theology of religion. There is no question that the necessity of extra Ecclesiam nulla salus has a long history. But they were talking about heretics, not nonbelievers. That formula addresses the problems of heresies. It has its history.
The Council did say there are elements of grace in other religions, and I don’t think that should be retracted. I’ve seen them, I know them — I’ve met Lutherans and Anglicans who are saints. (1)
 

Archbishop Augustine di Noia is implying here that he knows of Lutherans and Anglicans who are going to be saved in their religion. He knows whom Jesus will save who do not have Catholic Faith? He knows that these persons will be known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He knows this personally. He has this supernatural knowledge of the future.Even though a Catholic can commit one mortal sin and lost Sanctifying Grace and salvation, he knows that these Lutherans and Anglicans will not commit a mortal sin in future.
This report only proves my point about CR and Prof. Roberto dei Matteo, Cristina Siccardi and others. They assume there are known exceptions in the present times, to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Like Archbishop Di Noia is referring to Lumen Gentium 8 being an exception, they assume that Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 16 etc are also exceptions to Tradition.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 
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Archbishop DiNoia, Ecclesia Dei and the Society of St. Pius X