Sunday, July 24, 2016

Imaginary cases are an impediment to proclaiming the Catholic Faith clearly

We need to speak about the Catholic Faith,clearly. We need to clearly proclaim the Catholic Faith.Often traditionalists are an impediment to doing this.
Every one needs to enter the Church to go to Heaven and avoid Hell. Every one. We need to tell Fr. Anthony Cekada  that there is no known case of a catechumen who desired the baptism of water, died before he received it, went to Heaven and someone knew about it.We can ony hope and speculate that it is possible.However this is an imaginary case for us.
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We need to tell Bishop Donald Sanborn that every one in 2016 needs to be a card carrying member of the Church. SInce the person who dies in invincible ignorance( I.I), allegedly without the baptism of water, is an imaginary case in 2016.So the bishop can review his position on Vatican Council II and contact the local chancery and inform them about it.
Louie Verrecchio like Bishop Sanborn would say that they affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus but they cause confusion when UR 3 is an exception to Tradition for them.Let the liberal ecumenists interpret UR 3 as an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Let them consider UR 3 as referring to a non imaginary case,someone concrete.Louie does not have to do the same.He simply says every one in 2016 can only be saved with faith and baptism in the Catholic Church.
Bishop Fellay must be corrected and shown his doctrinal error.
Similarly John Salza and Robert Siscoe could be asked to remove all this confusion over imaginary cases being relevant or  exceptions to EENS in 2016.
 The traditionalists have created so much confusion over these imaginary persons that now when I affirm EENS  people mistake me for being a traditionalist or sedevacantist.It is not my fault if Bishop Sanborn, Fr. Cekada and Chris Ferrara  do not understand that imaginary cases are not defacto known in 2016, as in the case of BOD(LG 14) and I.I (LG 16).
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The  Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney at the St. Benedict Centers, Worcester, Manchester and Los Angeles, USA could also clarify that the baptism of desire is an imaginary case.These good traditionalists have already being saying that there is no baptism of desire.They need to state that LG 14 does not contradict itself i.e LG 14 ( unknown catechumen) does not contradict LG 14 ( all need faith and baptism).The Catholic Church is saying in Vatican Council II ( LG 14, AG 7) that the Church is necessary for salvation and all need faith and baptism for salvation; all need to enter and remain in it with faith and baptism to go to Heaven.This is being stated by  Vatican Council II and not only the dogma EENS.
LG 14 and AG 7 for me says extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Outside the Church there is no salvation and the imaginary cases of BOD and I.I are simply that - imaginary.
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It was a mistake for the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II to let these passages on BOD and I.I get through.It was wrong to suggest elsewhere that hypothetical( imaginary) cases(UR 3, LG 8 etc) were not hypothetical and so were relevant to EENS.They picked up this mistake from the second part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which suggests imaginary persons, are physically visible to us  and so are relevant to EENS, as exceptions.
So now we all can go back to the old theology by pointing out that BOD and I.I are always imaginary cases.Always.
We need to speak clearly about the Catholic Faith, proclaim it clearly and not let the traditionalists, liberals and sedevacantists cause confusion.

All non Catholics are going to Hell.Source? Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14).Catholics are the new people of God, they are the new Chosen People( NA 4).They follow the Promised Jewish Messiah foretold by the Jewish prophets.They follow Him in the only Church he founded. There are only Catholics in Heaven. Outside the Church there is no salvation since outside the Church there is no known salvation.
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All Protestants,Orthodox Christians, Pentecostals, Assembly of God Christians and Jehovah Witnesses are on the way to Hell.Source? Dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.( Cantate Domino, Council of Trent 1441 etc).
All Hindus, Buddhists, Jews,Muslims and Sikhs are lost forever unless they convert into the Catholic Church before they die.Source? Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14), Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 on outside the Church there is no salvation,John 3:5, Mark 16:16,Mathew 7:13-14) etc.-Lionel Andrades

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 APRIL 6, 2016

Yes! I am glad you have understood what I have been saying! Praised be Jesus and Our Lady.The issue comes down to our having no known cases of known salvation outside formal membership in the RCC

MARCH 29, 2016

"Thanks for providing this! God bless the Society!", " I agree with much of what Lionel says"