Saturday, December 3, 2016

In this way today we can go back to the same ecclesiology of St. Francis Xavier and Vatican Council II is not an obstacle.

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Today is the feast day of St.Francis Xavier and the two popes under the influence of a lobby are not allowed to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as the Jesuit missionary did. They have to pretend that the baptism of desire refers to a personally known exception to the dogma. The result is that the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes with this new and irrational theology in the Church.
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Heresy is the norm and orthodoxy will result in a priest or nun being suspended.Doctrine has been turned inside out in the Catholic Church.
If a Catholic would affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS he would find that other teachings of the Church come in place. Even Vatican Council II would be rational and traditional.
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By affirming the Feeneyite interpretation of EENS he would be saying there are no known cases of the baptism of desire.Practicaly there are zero cases.There is no known salvation outside the Church.
1.So there can be nothing in Vatican Council II which could really be an exception to EENS as it was understood by St. Ignatius of Loyola and St. Francis Xavier.
2.It also means that in the past there could not have been a baptism of desire case, which was known to human beings and so was an exception to the dogma EENS.
3.Similarly when we read a reference to the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance, we must remember, that it does not refer to a known case.So it cannot be an exception to the dogma EENS I have to repeat.
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So when the Holy Office 1949  inferred that the baptism of desire was an exception to EENS, the cardinals made a mistake.
The same people who made that mistake in 1949 were also active at Vatican Council II, like Cardinal Richard Cushing and the U.S Jesuits. So again in principle they assumed that hypothetical cases like the baptism of desire were objectively seen and known and so were exceptions to the dogma EENS.They extended the list to 'imperfect communion in the Church'(UR 3), 'elements of sanctification and truth'(LG 8) in other religions etc.
This was irrational but now it had become official and magisterial and even Archbishop Lefebvre did not notice the error.
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This was a mistake in the Church.There were priests who affirmed the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus based on the text of  the three Church  Councils which defined it.But ecclesiastical masonry rejected it.Any one who supported 'Feeneyism' would be penalised by forces within and outside the Church.Even popes gave in.
Now if a priest or theologian says he affirms the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS and the baptism of desire refers to a hypothetical case only and not to someone whom we can personally know, he changes the interpretation of Vatican Council II. 
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Vatican Council II  with Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation and so there are no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to Ad Gentes 7 and also Lumen Gentium 14 which supports the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.
When the priest says he affirms Feeneyite EENS with the baptism of desire being hypothetical and an imaginary case he is saying that there is still only an ecumenism of return. UR 3 etc do not contradict  the dogma EENS, since it is a reference to a hypothetical case.
This priest would be saying that outside the Church there is no salvation and all Jews ,Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists need to enter the Church, 'with faith and baptism' to avoid Hell and there is no known salvation outside the Church.Even if someone maintained that there was the possibility of a non Catholic being saved outside the Church,in his religion, it would be an unknown case and so not relevant or an exception to EENS.
This priest based on Feeneyite EENS see the importance of having all political and social legislation based on the Social Kingship of Christ the King.
All this has come about simply by affirming Feeneyite EENS in which the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to hypothetical and theoretical possibilities known only to God if they existed.
In this way today we can go back to the same ecclesiology of St. Francis Xavier and Vatican Council II is not an obstacle.
-Lionel Andrades

San Francesco Saverio


San Francesco Saverio

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arseuropa In occasione delle ricorrenza di San Francesco Saverio, Ars Europa propone, per la prima volta sul suo canale, il bel film animato di Fernando Uribe e proposto sul sito graficapastorale.it
San Francisco de Jasso Azpilcueta Atondo y Aznares de Javier, comunemente noto con il nome italianizzato in Francesco Saverio (Javier, 7 aprile 1506 -- isola di Sancian, 3 dicembre 1552), è stato un gesuita e missionario spagnolo, proclamato santo nel 1622 da papa Gregorio XV; il suo culto è ammesso anche dalla Chiesa anglicana.

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Something important was missing in Michael Voris and the CMTV's The Download :Alpha program




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Today on this "Free Friday" episode of The Download, the panel delves into the ALPHA Program and its Protestant roots, and asks the question, why are Catholics afraid of professing the Faith in all its glory? Not familiar or confused by ALPHA? Find more info here: www.churchmilitant.com/main/generic/faq-alpha To view full episodes of The Download Monday-Thursday LIVE, sign up for premium: www.churchmilitant.com/video/p... Find the panelists on social and continue the conversation! Michael Voris—Facebook: www.facebook.com/michael.vori... Twitter: twitter.com/Michael_VorisChristine Niles—Facebook: www.facebook.com/christine.niles Twitter: twitter.com/ChristineNiles1 Brad—Twitter: twitter.com/BradleyLEliFollow us! Facebook: facebook.com/ChurchMilitantTV Twitter: twitter.com/Church_Militantwww.instagram.com/churchmilitantcom/

Michael Voris has a good program on the Alpha course.The Archdiocese of Detroit has objected.
Michael Voris was correct.The Alpha program is Protestant and heretical.
When defending Catholic doctrine the Church Militant TV,however, did not support or proclaim the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.No one on the panel said all Protestants  are on the way to Hell since they are not members of the Catholic Church.
This was missing in the Download program either because the CMTV team does not believe in this dogmatic teaching, they would no longer be in good standing with the Archbishop of Detroit or the Leftists would protest with their racist and discriminatory laws. CMTV was afraid,
The panel did not state the obvious. There are no known cases of the baptism of desire. We cannot see or meet someone in the present times or the past saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water.No one will show up in Detroit saved with the baptism of desire.So it can be pointed out to as an exception to the dogma.
The baptism of desire is a zero case in our reality said John Martignoni, the apologist.I am waiting for Prof. P.Blosser and Prof. Ralph Martin on the faculty of the Catholic seminary in Detroit to say the same thing.
The baptism of desire is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus said Fr. S.Visintin osb, the present Dean of Theology, at Pontifical University of San Anselm in Rome.
So the baptism of desire is not an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.But this cannot be said by CMTV.Such an important point was not mentioned on the Friday discussion.
Obviously Michael Voris does not affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to St. Francis Xavier whose feast day it is today.He does not do so in public at least.Theologically he is clear. He is a denier.He contradicts St.Francis Xavier and the Jesuits of that time.
Neither is he saying that Vatican Council II was never a rupture with the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.It is a rupture for him.He has the same doctrinal position as the liberals and the archdiocese.No rupture with the Archbishop of Detroit.
If he did speak the truth they would give him the liberal-leftist pitch about Fr. Leonard Feeney being excommunicated for saying....
So CMTV allows school children in Religion Class at Detroit to  be taught that every one does not need to formally enter the Church in 2016 since there are exceptions.They themself believe this.
Or the Catholic  children will be taught that  every one needs to enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) in 2016 for salvation ( to avoid Hell) except for those in invincible ignorance or saved with the baptism of desire.This is acceptable Catholic doctrine for CMTV. Since it is approved by the present magisterium, even though it contradicts magisterial texts ( Vatican Council II, AG 7, LG 14) and the magisterium of the past ( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441).
I mentioned in a previous post that for the Archdiocese of Detroit and the theological and philosophical faculty at the Sacred Heart Seminary in Detroit there is salvation outside the Church. According to the new theology salvation outside the Church is a possibility.For St. Francis Xavier there was no such possibility.

Even in Vatican Council II there is no mention of any possibility which is defacto known.Vatican Council II is in agreement with St. Francis Xavier's concept of salvation, unless of course, you imagine hypothetical references are objectively seen.

For CMTV like the Archdiocese and the seminary faculty, Vatican Council II mentions possibilities ( LG 16 invincible ignorance allegedly without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church)It is not a speculative possibility.t is a known case, objectively seen in Detroit.So they infer that there is known salvation outside the Church.
When Christine Niles hosted the Mic'd Up program on the subject of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus, even though she quoted Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 she also cited the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, which contradicts Cantate Dominio.
The Letter says that the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus has exceptions and the baptism of desire etc are exceptions.It infers this.So the Letter criticizes the Feeneyite interpretation of EENS for not accepting these new- found exceptions .Now if any one supports the Feeneyite interpretation of EENS the liberal bishops may excommunicate them for not saying the exceptions are visible.
The Letter obviously made an objective mistake. How can invisible cases of the baptism of desire,known only to God if they exist, be an exception to all needing to be incorporated into the Church? An exception would have to exist and be visible and tangible to be an exception.
The baptism of desire etc  are speculative and theoretical cases mentioned with good will in the Council of Trent etc. The Council of Trent does not state that there is a known  case of a catechumen who dies before receiving the baptism of water and is saved and this specific case is personally known to us.It does not state this yet CMTV, the Archdiocese and the faculty and students at the Detroit seminary, will infer all this.
CMTV's innovative version of extra ecclesiam nulla salus is also accepted by Archbishop Allen Vignon, the archbishop of Detroit. So when talking about Catholic doctrine,on this Download program,  no one afirmed the text of Cantate Dominio or Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14) which tell us all Protestants are on the way to Hell without Catholic faith.All.
On the Download the panel seemed to express  the same worldly prudence that one could find in the Curia of the Archdiocese and the theological faculty of the Sacred Heart Seminary there.
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Feeneyite version, is the foundational basis of other teachings of the Church including an ecumenism of return, outside the Church Jews and Muslims are on the way to Hell and the need for the Social Reign of Christ the King.
With Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which for me says there are no known exceptions to the dogma EENS and the baptism of desire is not an exception, the interpretation of Vatican Council II radically changes.
CMTV does not even discuss  this.They have an otherwise correctly pointed out that  Alpha is not Catholic.It has no Catholic theology on the Eucharistic.However in CMTV's apologetics there is no reference to the centuries old exclusivist salvation theology as it was known to the 16th cenury missionaries, including St.Francis Xavier.-Lionel Andrades


DECEMBER 1, 2016


Is Michael Voris really saying the un-thinkable?

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2/12/2016 Medjugorje: Mirjana in lacrime, Appello a PAPA FRANCESCO

2/12/2016 Medjugorje: Mirjana in lacrime, Appello a PAPA FRANCESCO 

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Mirjana said that Our Lady was very sad : Medugorje Message December 2, 2016

Friday December 2nd 2016 Message, Our Lady prays with Mirjana for the unbelievers
Dear children, my motherly heart is crying as I am looking at what my children are doing. Sins are multiplying, the purity of soul is all the less important; my Son is being forgotten - honoured all the less; and my children are being persecuted. That is why, you my children, apostles of my love, with soul and heart invoke the name of my Son. He will have the words of light for you. He manifests Himself to you, He breaks the bread with you and gives you the words of love so that you may transform them into merciful acts and, thus, be witnesses of truth. That is why, my children, do not be afraid. Permit my Son to be in you. He will make use of you to care for the wounded and to convert lost souls. Therefore, my children, return to the prayer of the Rosary. Pray it with feelings of goodness, sacrifice and mercy. Pray, not only with words, but with merciful acts. Pray with love for all people. My Son, by His sacrifice, exalted love. Therefore, live with Him so that you may have strength and hope; that you may have the love which is life and which leads to eternal life. Through God's love, I am also with you, and will lead you with motherly love. Thank you.”
Mirjana said that Our Lady was very sad. (www.medjugorje.com)
 
 

Messaggio Straordinario da Medjugorje del 2 Dicembre 2016

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Messaggio Straordinario da Medjugorje del 2 Dicembre 2016




“Cari figli!
Il mio cuore materno sta piangendo mentre guarda quello che fanno i miei figli. I peccati si moltiplicano. La purezza dell’anima diventa sempre meno importante. Le persone dimenticano mio Figlio e lo adorano sempre meno. I miei figli sono perseguitati. Perciò, figli miei, apostoli del mio amore, con l’anima e con il cuore chiamate mio Figlio. Lui avrà parole di luce per voi. Lui si presenta a voi e vi dà le parole dell’amore per trasformarle in atti di misericordia così che voi potrete diventare i testimoni della verità. Perciò, figli miei, non abbiate paura. Permettete a mio Figlio di vivere in voi. Lui vi userà per coloro che sono feriti e per convertire le anime perse. Perciò, miei figli, riprendete la preghiera del Rosario. Pregate con sentimenti di bontà, di sacrificio e di misericordia. Pregate non solo con le parole ma con le opere di misericordia. Pregate con amore per tutte le persone. Mio Figlio con il suo sacrificio ha esaltato l’amore, perciò vivete con Lui per poter avere la forza e la speranza. Per poter avere l’amore nella vita e che ci porta nella vita eterna. Io sono con voi e con il mio amore materno vi guiderò. Grazie.”
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Medugorje Apparition yesterday

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Italiano - Apparizione a Mirjana del 2 dicembre

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The Relic of the Arm of St. Francis Jesus in Rome

Die Armreliquie des hl. Franz Xaver

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Ewiger Gott, du Schöpfer aller Dinge, blicke auf die Seelen der Ungläubigen.
Du hast sie erschaffen und nach Deinem Bild und Gleichnis gestaltet.
Denke daran, daß Jesus, Dein Sohn, für ihr Heil den bittersten Tod erlitten hat.
Laß nicht länger zu, daß Dein Sohn von den Ungläubigen verachtet wird.
Laß Dich zur Milde stimmen durch die Gebete der Heiligen und die Bitten der Kirche,
der Braut Deines heiligen Sohnes.
Denke an Dein Erbarmen, und achte nicht mehr auf ihren Götzendienst und Unglauben.
Gib, daß auch sie endlich erkennen unseren Herrn Jesus Christus, den Du gesandt hast.
Er ist unser Heil, unser Leben und unsere Auferstehung.
Ihm sei Ehre in alle Ewigkeit. Amen.

(Gebet des hl. Franz Xaver, Greff, 107)

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Cover up: Popes, cardinals know with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus there is no rupture with Tradition in Vatican Council II:Baptism of desire refers to invisible cases which never ever were an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Cover up: The popes, cardinals and bishops know that with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus there is no rupture with Tradition in Vatican Council II. The baptism of desire refers to invisible cases and invisible cases were never an exception to all needing to be incorporated into the Catholic Church as members for salvation.
The two popes and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith know this and yet they are covering up the truth about Vatican Council II.
With Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), which avoids the new theology, Vatican Council II has a continuity with Tradition. With Cushingite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which assumes that the baptism of desire refers to visible and known cases in the present times, Vatican Council II has a rupture with Tradition.
Image result for Photos of St. Francis XavierThe popes and the CDF know this but they do not want Catholics to affirm Vatican Council II in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as it was known to St. Francis Xavier and the Jesuit missionaries of the 16th century.
Meanwhile the traditionalists are still repeating the same nonsense fed to them by Archbishop Lefebvre, who interpreted the baptism of desire as being explicit and objectively known and so his conclusion was that Vatican Council II (LG 16, LG 14 etc) was a rupture with Tradition and in particular the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known in the 16th century.
Ecclesiastical masonry today wants the Society of St. Pius X and the Franciscans of the Immaculate to rubber stamp a Vatican Council II by affirming visible for us baptism of desire and so denying the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS, which the secular-Left media calls 'rigorist'.
Even the communiities of Fr.Leonard Feeney in the USA, the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have been interpreting Vatican Council II with LG 16 etc being an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.It is now a few years and neither will they or the other traditionalists admit this and correct themself in public.
If Cardinal Muller would clarify, for us, something which we all know through common sense, then he would be saying that Vatican Council II does not have the hermeneutic rupture with the Feenyite interpretation of EENS.
It was the Holy Office 1949 and the Archbishop of Boston who were in heresy and not Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Center.
It really means Vatican Council II only affirms an ecumenism of return and there is no ambiguity.
It means there is no known salvation outside the Church and so it is a priority that all political and social teachings should have Jesus and the Catholic Church at its centre.
But the popes are not going to agree with this. So he has not commented over the last few years on these blog posts.1
-Lionel Andrades
 
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But the popes are not going to agree with this. So Cardinal Muller has not commented on these blog posts: cannot contradict the pope on Amoris Laetitia and comment on the dubbia
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/but-popes-are-not-going-to-agree-with.html